Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Fwd: A Likud Profile.doc - More Likud Bashing. I wish it wasn't true



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Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:29 AM
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A Likud Profile

 

Paul Eidelberg

 

 

The Likud has been consistent in one thing only:  the betrayal of its professed Zionist or nationalist principles.

 

Thus Begin, who yielded the Sinai and evacuated Yamit.

 

Thus Shamir, whose "peace plan" led to the recognition of the PLO at Madrid. 

 

Thus Netanyahu, who withdrew from Hebron and prepared the ground for a Palestinian state at Wye.

 

Thus Sharon, who adopted Labor's policy of "unilateral disengagement" from Gaza. 

 

Thus Olmert (of the Likud's offspring Kadima), who would withdraw from Judea and Samaria. 

 

            ● And once again Netanyahu, who will complete this record of perfidy should he form, as he promises, a national unity government with Labor and Kadima after the February 10, 2009 election.


The Likud Party has never possessed the will or the courage to rule in accordance with its professed principles.  I once called the Likud "the right wing of the Labor Party."  Netanyahu made this crystal clear when he said he would exclude rightwing parties should he form the next government.   What right-wing parties?  Clearly, parties opposed to a Palestinian state such as National Union.

 

Actually, Netanyahu has long misled the public about the true character of the Likud.  This he has been able to do because of Israel's system of multi-party cabinet government.  This grotesque system has allowed the Likud to pose as a rightwing party, when, in reality, it is a left-leaning party that has lured right-wingers to its cause, and that cause is nothing less than the burial of Zionism.

 

It is in this light that we should ponder Netanyahu's recruiting  Benny Begin and General Moshe Ya'alon into his party along with Dan Meridor—Meridor, who, if appointed Justice Minister, as rumored, will inject the leftwing ideology of Judge Aharon Barak into the next government.

 

Does any informed person need to be shown that Judge Barak was the foremost enemy of Zionism on the Supreme Court?

 

Suffice to say it was as President of the Supreme Court that Judge Barak ruled that Judea, Samaria, and Gaza constitute "belligerent occupied territory," a ruling that sanctioned the anti-Zionist policy of Likud chairman Ariel Sharon.  This perfidious ruling can be expected to govern Benjamin Netanyahu should he become Israel's next Prime Minister.

 

 

 


Fwd: הסיפור שלנו Our Story - Powerpoint Presentation to promote Yesha and Eli Hertz Who is Humiliating Whom www.mythsandfacts.org ו

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This will be posted on www.shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com


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From: Pesach <pashra@netvision.net.il>
Date: 2009/1/28
Subject: הסיפור שלנו
To: Pesach <pashra@netvision.net.il>

Please open attached power point presentation in Hebrew from the Yesha Council and their New Land of Israel Campaign!

Check out http://www.jstory.co.il/

New Land of Israel Campaign Earns Praise

Also read this never thought about answer to those that feel sorry for the Palestinians humiliation and harassment at checkpoints.  We have been made to feel so guilty, that Condeleeza Rice succeeded in getting the government of Israel to close many checkpoints in Judea and Samaria in order to enhance freedom of movement for the Palestinians.


Whom is Humiliating Whom by Eli Hertz - a Must Read!


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From: Eli E. Hertz <today@mythsandfacts.org>
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:08 AM
Subject: "Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?" - CBS News, January 25, 2009
To: faigerayzel@gmail.com




Myths and Facts

"Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?"
CBS News, January 25, 2009

Bob Simon:
"Palestinians ... when they want to travel from one town to another, they have to submit to humiliating delays at checkpoints and roadblocks. There are more than 600 of them on the West Bank."

Bob: Who is Humiliating Whom?

January 27, 2009 | Eli E. Hertz

Bob, you say Palestinian Arabs feel humiliated and harassed when Israeli authorities search them and their belongings; when they are prevented from traveling freely because of checkpoints, roadblocks, closures and curfews. You say they feel "corralled."

Bob, in Israel, every Israeli is searched numerous times during the course of a single day. Israelis are asked to open their bags and purses for inspection. In most cases, they are subjected to body searches with a metal detector every time they enter a bank or a post office, pick up a bottle of milk at the supermarket, enter a mall or train station, or visit a hospital or medical clinic. Young Israeli men and women are physically frisked in search of suicide belts before they enter crowded nightclubs.

As a matter of routine, Israelis' car trunks are searched every time they enter a well-trafficked parking lot. Daily, their cars pass through roadblocks that cause massive traffic jams when security forces are in hot pursuit of suicide bombers believed to have entered Israel.

Israelis are searched not only when they go out for a cup of coffee or a slice of pizza, but also when they go to the movies or a concert, where the term "dressed to kill" has an entirely different meaning.

These ordinary daily humiliations now extend to similar searches when Israelis go to weddings or Bar Mitzvahs. No one abroad talks about the humiliation Jews in Israel are subjected to, having to write at the bottom of wedding invitations and other life cycle events, "The site will be secured [by armed guards]" - to ensure relatives and friends will attend and share their joyous occasion.

One out of four Israeli children, ages 11 to 15, fear for their lives. One out of three report they fear for the lives of their family members, and more than a third report they have changed their patterns of travel and social lives due to security concerns.

Bob, these ubiquitous security checks do not exist in Arab cities and towns in Israel (or, for that matter, in Judea and Samaria) because those places are not and never have been targets of Palestinian terrorism. In fact, the average Israeli is "humiliated and harassed" by being searched far more times a day than the average Palestinian. Not one human rights group, nor you, has so much as noted this massive intrusion into the rights of privacy and person imposed on Israelis.

To date, no one protests the fact that, since the 1970s, Jewish schoolchildren in Israel are surrounded by perimeter fences, with armed guards at the schoolyard gates, as if their schools were the domiciles of Mafiosi.

Not one Arab village in Israel or the Territories has a perimeter fence around it. Guards are not required at Arabic shops, cafes, restaurants, movie theaters, wedding halls or schools - either in Israel or in the Territories. Palestinians also do not need armed guards to accompany every school trip, youth movement hike or campout. They are not targets of terrorism.

Countless Israelis in sensitive areas within the Green Line - not only in the Territories, but also in Jewish towns, villages and bedroom suburbs - are "ghettoized" behind high fences.

Many Israeli motorists avoid major arteries that pass through Arab areas of Israel, while Arab citizens and Palestinians from the Territories continue to enter Jewish cities and go about their business without peril. Israelis are told, in effect, to disguise themselves when traveling abroad - not to speak Hebrew in public and not to wear garments that reveal their Jewish-Israeli origins. Even Israel's national airline - El Al - has been forced to remove its logo from the tails of its aircraft at certain airports, out of concern for the safety of its passengers. This followed several attempts to down Israeli civilian aircraft with missiles. On the other hand, Arabs who frequent Jewish cities and towns in Israel wear their traditional Arab headgear without fear of being attacked or harassed.

Bob, all this begs the question: Who are the victims and who are the victimizers? Who are the ones being harassed and humiliated? Palestinian Arabs or Israelis?

www.mythsandfacts.org


Fwd: הסיפור שלנו Our Story - Powerpoint Presentation to promote Yesha and Eli Hertz Who is Humiliating Whom www.mythsandfacts.org ו

bs"d

This will be posted on www.shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pesach <pashra@netvision.net.il>
Date: 2009/1/28
Subject: הסיפור שלנו
To: Pesach <pashra@netvision.net.il>


Attachment to this email is a great powerpoint presentation in Hebrew from the Yesha Council and their New Land of Israel Campaign!

Check out http://www.jstory.co.il/

New Land of Israel Campaign Earns Praise

Also read this never thought about answer to those that feel sorry for the Palestinians humiliation and harassment at checkpoints.  We have been made to feel so guilty, that Condeleeza Rice succeeded in getting the government of Israel to close many checkpoints in Judea and Samaria in order to enhance freedom of movement for the Palestinians.


Whom is Humiliating Whom by Eli Hertz - a Must Read!


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eli E. Hertz <today@mythsandfacts.org>
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:08 AM
Subject: "Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?" - CBS News, January 25, 2009
To: faigerayzel@gmail.com




Myths and Facts

"Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?"
CBS News, January 25, 2009

Bob Simon:
"Palestinians ... when they want to travel from one town to another, they have to submit to humiliating delays at checkpoints and roadblocks. There are more than 600 of them on the West Bank."

Bob: Who is Humiliating Whom?

January 27, 2009 | Eli E. Hertz

Bob, you say Palestinian Arabs feel humiliated and harassed when Israeli authorities search them and their belongings; when they are prevented from traveling freely because of checkpoints, roadblocks, closures and curfews. You say they feel "corralled."

Bob, in Israel, every Israeli is searched numerous times during the course of a single day. Israelis are asked to open their bags and purses for inspection. In most cases, they are subjected to body searches with a metal detector every time they enter a bank or a post office, pick up a bottle of milk at the supermarket, enter a mall or train station, or visit a hospital or medical clinic. Young Israeli men and women are physically frisked in search of suicide belts before they enter crowded nightclubs.

As a matter of routine, Israelis' car trunks are searched every time they enter a well-trafficked parking lot. Daily, their cars pass through roadblocks that cause massive traffic jams when security forces are in hot pursuit of suicide bombers believed to have entered Israel.

Israelis are searched not only when they go out for a cup of coffee or a slice of pizza, but also when they go to the movies or a concert, where the term "dressed to kill" has an entirely different meaning.

These ordinary daily humiliations now extend to similar searches when Israelis go to weddings or Bar Mitzvahs. No one abroad talks about the humiliation Jews in Israel are subjected to, having to write at the bottom of wedding invitations and other life cycle events, "The site will be secured [by armed guards]" - to ensure relatives and friends will attend and share their joyous occasion.

One out of four Israeli children, ages 11 to 15, fear for their lives. One out of three report they fear for the lives of their family members, and more than a third report they have changed their patterns of travel and social lives due to security concerns.

Bob, these ubiquitous security checks do not exist in Arab cities and towns in Israel (or, for that matter, in Judea and Samaria) because those places are not and never have been targets of Palestinian terrorism. In fact, the average Israeli is "humiliated and harassed" by being searched far more times a day than the average Palestinian. Not one human rights group, nor you, has so much as noted this massive intrusion into the rights of privacy and person imposed on Israelis.

To date, no one protests the fact that, since the 1970s, Jewish schoolchildren in Israel are surrounded by perimeter fences, with armed guards at the schoolyard gates, as if their schools were the domiciles of Mafiosi.

Not one Arab village in Israel or the Territories has a perimeter fence around it. Guards are not required at Arabic shops, cafes, restaurants, movie theaters, wedding halls or schools - either in Israel or in the Territories. Palestinians also do not need armed guards to accompany every school trip, youth movement hike or campout. They are not targets of terrorism.

Countless Israelis in sensitive areas within the Green Line - not only in the Territories, but also in Jewish towns, villages and bedroom suburbs - are "ghettoized" behind high fences.

Many Israeli motorists avoid major arteries that pass through Arab areas of Israel, while Arab citizens and Palestinians from the Territories continue to enter Jewish cities and go about their business without peril. Israelis are told, in effect, to disguise themselves when traveling abroad - not to speak Hebrew in public and not to wear garments that reveal their Jewish-Israeli origins. Even Israel's national airline - El Al - has been forced to remove its logo from the tails of its aircraft at certain airports, out of concern for the safety of its passengers. This followed several attempts to down Israeli civilian aircraft with missiles. On the other hand, Arabs who frequent Jewish cities and towns in Israel wear their traditional Arab headgear without fear of being attacked or harassed.

Bob, all this begs the question: Who are the victims and who are the victimizers? Who are the ones being harassed and humiliated? Palestinian Arabs or Israelis?

www.mythsandfacts.org


Please forward to the Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah. Why the 3 Oaths no longer apply. comments from Chaya Witkin and others

bs"d

Shalom Robin,

I just clicked into your blog and started reading it.
You wrote (in the article Clarification for Congressmen: Israel Wants a Palestinian State but do the Jews or do Bible believers? Mishpacha Magazine "Dear Mr. President" by Rabbi Moshe Grylak Editor in Chief):  "those antizionists that justify their existence based on the 3 oaths actually themselves go against the 3 oaths."
 
It isn't clear if you mean the "3 oaths" that are upon the world: 
   - one is that Am Yisrael shouldn't rebel against the nations of the world,
   - another is that Am Yisrael shouldn't go back to Eretz Yisrael and raise a state "b'choma (as a wall e.g. with force)",
  - and the third - that the goyim shouldn't oppress us "too much".
 
The Shoah is considered by many Gedolei hador to have been "too much".  Being so, the 3 OATHS HAVE BEEN BROKEN BY THE GOYIM, SO AM YISRAEL CAN GO BACK TO ERETZ YISRAEL "B'KOACH (with force)" BECAUSE the Oaths HAVE BEEN BROKEN ALREADY.  The Oaths do NOT exist anymore.
 
In short, the 3 oaths no longer apply because the GOYIM broke the Agreement of the 3 Oaths, so that these Oaths haven't applied for over 60 years since the Shoah.  All this is agreed to also by Rav Meir Kahane, and can be read in great detail in his book "Ohr HaRayon" (in Hebrew - Chapter 26 "Shilosha Hashavuot")

Dear Chaya, amv"sh

Excellent!  Please let me expand on what you wrote addressing oaths one and two and to elaborate on oath three: The points raised in this shemittahrediscovered post 
are further proofs that the 3 oaths do no apply in delegitimatizing the State of Israel.  Here are some points that I believe were sent to me by Joe Gemeiner,Toronto.

* As clear as the sun shines in the morning, Israel from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River was given to the Jewish people world wide in 3 legally- binding international treaties - the 1920 San Remo Conference treaty, the  Mandate for Palestine1922,  and The British American covenant regarding Palestine 1924 -  all of which stated unambiguously that Palestine would be reconstituted as a "National homeland for the Jewish people worldwide" based on the recognition of the " Jewish historical ties to that land." Even for the ethically deaf and blind world it's a pretty simple mission to understand.


Fwd: Feiglin's Fatal Flaw

bs"d

Dear List, amv"sh

Paul Eidelberg brings some very strong points objecting to Feiglin being part of the Likud party. I too have the premonition that voting for Feiglin or Shas (they too wish to join with Likud) under Likud is a vote for Netanyahu and Netanyahu's politics.  This mean a willingness to negotiate and establish a Palestinian State.  A vote for Feiglin is a vote for Netanyahu and is no way a vote for Feiglin. It seems to me that in the Likud party, Feiglin is an outsider and has no real clout.

Netanyahu's rhetoric is nice but his voting patterns have been a betrayal of our Covenant with Hashem, shows a disregard of the special sanctity the Jewish people have with the Land of Israel and a betrayal to the Jewish Nation. 

This goes way beyond politics.  A vote for Likud is not consistent with a Torah platform.  Only a vote for NU is.

A vote for NU is a vote for what Feiglin really believes in.

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From: <eidelberg@foundation1.org>
Date: Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:48 AM
Subject: Feiglin's Fatal Flaw
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Feiglin's Fatal Flaw

 

Paul Eidelberg

 

Israel National News (INN) asked Moshe Feiglin, leader of the Likud's Jewish Leadership faction, to comment on Benjamin Netanyahu's latest remarks regarding a unity government.  Feiglin said, in part: "Our job is to make sure that within the [Likud] party faction, there are enough nationalist MKs who will prevent Netanyahu from carrying out dangerous moves [like supporting a Palestinian state]."  [The present writer will address this last remark later.]


In contrast, National Union party leader Yaakov "Ketzaleh" Katz said that the way to ensure that the Likud remains "nationalistically-oriented is by voting for a party to the right of it."  Moreover, "If the religious-Zionist voters who are now supporting the Likud would vote for the National Union, then many left-wing Likud candidates will not get into the Knesset - while the National Union could get 10 seats! We must not let Feiglin steal away national-religious votes for people like Dan Meridor … and others." [Katz might have added that Meridor may become Justice Minister if included in a Netanyahu cabinet.  This is tantamount to bringing Aharon Barak into the government!]

 

Now let us consider the central issue of the February 10 election.

 

1)     There is abundant evidence that Netanyahu supports a Palestinian state.  Hence, a vote for the Likud is a vote for an Arab state in Israel's heartland, Judea and Samaria.  The same may be said of Kadima.  But since Kadima's leader Tzipi Livni is to the left of Netanyahu, nationalists will prefer a Likud-led government.

2)     Nevertheless, voters should have certain facts in mind about the Netanyahu-Likud record on the territorial issue, specially the following:

           

a.      During his tenure as Israel's prime minister, Netanyahu failed to abrogate the Oslo or Israel-PLO Agreement even though his own office issued daily reports of the PLO's brazen violations of that agreement.

b.      In the Hebron Memorandum of January 30, 1997, Netanyahu surrendered 80 percent of Hebron to the Palestinian Authority (PA).

c.      In the Wye River Memorandum of October 23, 1998, he agreed, for starters, to surrender approximately 30 percent of Judea and Samaria to the PA.

d.      In 2002, that is, even after the Arafat Terror War broke out in September 2000, Netanyahu and his Likud colleagues (with the exception of Naomi Blumenthal) voted against MK Michael Kleiner's resolution to abrogate Oslo.

e.      As a cabinet minister in the Sharon government, and despite the warnings of Israel's highest defense and intelligence officials, Netanyahu voted for unilateral disengagement from Gaza (which, by the way, doesn't prevent him from boasting now and everywhere that he anticipated the dire consequences of that retreat).

f.        Of the Likud's 40 Knesset Members (two were former Israel B'Aliya MKs that joined the Likud), 23 voted for unilateral disengagement on October 26, 2005. 

           

3) In the January 2003 election, the Likud won by 38 seats to Labor's 19. This large plurality enabled PM Sharon to appoint more Likud MKs to his cabinet vis-à-vis MKs from parties to his right on the Palestinian state issue—parties such as National Union.

 

4) A comparable situation will occur in the February 2009 election.  Accordingly, voters who support Feiglin should think strategically: "Although Feiglin urges us to vote Likud, we don't want the Likud to win too large a Knesset plurality—as happened in the 2003 election—because that will allow Netanyahu to stack his cabinet with more Likud MKs vis-à-vis MKs from parties to his right."  

 

5) Therefore, if these "Feiglinites" vote for a party to the right of the Likud—say National Union—they would increase the number of Knesset seats won by that party.  Netanyahu may then have to include MKs from that party in a unity government.  The cabinet would then include NU opponents of a Palestinian state, bolstering "mavericks" from Netanyahu's own party.

 

6) Of course, given a unity government, Netanyahu could appoint enough Kadima (as well as Labor) MKs to his cabinet, to the possible exclusion of National Union.   However, this will depend on the number seats won by these and other parties—and this is speculative.  Besides, I have not forgotten Israeli Beiteinu, which may become the third largest party and complicate Netanyahu's ability to form a unity government supportive of a Palestinian state.

 

7) Speculation aside, there is a fatal flaw in Feiglin's position.  He claims that with more people voting Likud, the Likud will have more MKs opposed to a Palestinian state.  Perhaps, but this overlooks the fact that it will not be new Likud MKs supportive of Feiglin so much as incumbent Likud MKs that Netanyahu will appoint to his cabinet, and their track record on a Palestinian state is not encouraging.  Indeed, by luring more people to vote Likud, Feiglin will enable Netanyahu to appoint more Likud incumbents to the cabinet, hence more MKs who, like Meridor, do not oppose a Palestinian state.

 

This suggests that Feiglin's flaw may be nothing more than a case of tendentiousness, not to say self-promotion.