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Thursday, June 16, 2022

Re: cont. Being connected with reality...

Bsd

Dear Nadia and Yehudit, amvsh

Bh Im glad at least we are brainstorming.

I too Chas Veshalom do not want to divide Israel! We are on the same page!

Here is where I am coming from...
I originally started as a computer programmer. When software is programmed there are always bugs. Therefore it would be a mistake to put the software into production until it is tested and then tested as a prototype on a small scale and only when most of the bugs are taken care of.  The software is then approved for large scale production. The Nation of Israel is not yet a Kli, a vessel, to even consider a Torah Autonomy. However the Jews living in  Judea and Samaria are predominantly G-d fearing Torah observing Jews. The idea is to start very small scale, to brainstorm and work out the kinks. Surely once the entire Israel gets a taste of how a Torah economy can eventually function, there will be a thirst for more. Doesn't Hashem promise that the Nations of the world will say about the Nation of Israel "Am Chacham veNavon", a smart and wise Nation?


Relating to the discussion of every Jew making Aliya:

Of course Jews should be making Aliya. This must be done in parallel with yearning for G-d's Kingdom in the world.  This translates to exposing and protesting government policies that are coming from a greater global agenda that rejects G-d and His commandments.  In Israel, global forces push to oppress those who openly push for a government and judicial system and economy that is closer to a G-dly vision and Hebraic Law. This means not being satisfied with the existing hodge podge of Turkish, British and Israeli law. 

The world is very scary as law and order, truth and justice are no longer  governing the masses but rather a foreign New World Order.

It is Hashem who will return the exiles but that is dependent on us. We are expected to collectively return to Hashem and keep His commandments.

The 7 Noahide Laws for Nations of the world are currently under assault, on our watch, both in the Diaspora and and in Israel. Never in my life have I witnessed such evil forces pushing an anti G-d agenda. The Nation of Israel should be  educating the world in order to fill the void. This void is a terrible Chillul Hashem, that has been filled with their New World Order. 

When G-d's laws reign, aka Malchut Shamayim, not only will
 Jews will stream to Israel but so too will all the Nations of the world. These are the prophesies we read about.

The root to accomplish such a lofty goals, to allow this transformation to occur, is not merely by making Aliya according to the criteria of the Jewish Agency, filling all the paper work etc. 

It is not important that every Jew becomes an Oleh of the State of Israel.

It should be sufficient  for a Jew be a descendent of Avraham Yitzhak and Yaakov and keep the commandments and even if a Jew is not residing in the Holy Land they still theoretically have a Nachala, an inheritance passed down from their forefathers that gives them G-d Given rights to the Land, rights no different than one who has a Teudat Zehut, that is an Israeli citizen by today's definition of being an Israeli citizen.

 Lets make our goal to take Galus, a mindset of being in Exile, out of the Jew wherever the Jew resides, be it the Diaspora or the Holy  Land. 

Every individual Jew wherever they reside should feel they are an essential part of  unified whole, namely the Nation of Israel. While one who actually resides in the Holy Land is privileged to be worthy to live in Eretz Yisroel, our Precious and Holy Land, still, can they claim  that their rights to the Land of Eretz Yisroel exceeds their brothers and sisters still residing in the Diaspora?

The Nation of israel is not defined just by who made Aliya.  

It therefore follows that collectively we need to be ready to change our mindset. Every Jew whether or not they made official Aliya  has the same obligations to protect Eretz Yisroel and to keep the commandments  whether these commandments  are Teluyot Baaretz, dependent on the Land, and/or not teluyot BaAretz. 

The Halachic criteria defining who is a Jew should therefore define who is a citizen of Israel rather than the existing  criteria of the Jewish Agency. 

The physical act of making Aliya, is a tremendous accomplishment but should not take way from the status of any Halachic Jew and their rights to be a full fledged Citizen of the Land of Israel and making a difference as you yourself suggest.

I hope this clarifies your question by explaining that making Aliya is an unnecessary prerequisite for being counted in the Nation of Israel. In fact, what is suggested is an alternative criteria to determine who is a citizen of Israel. 

Therefore, a collective yearning for a Global Heavenly Kingdom especially in the Land of Israel,  and keeping the Torah Commandments is the primary focus rather than Aliya per se.


On Thu, Jun 16, 2022, 2:29 AM Nadia Matar <nadiamatar1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Amazing how you never relate to the issue of the obligation of every Torah Jew to make aliya.
Living in Galut, no matter how well you keep Shabbos and Kashrut, one is still a handicapped Jew-
not to talk about the fact that in galut you have absolutely no input on what is going on in Eretz HaKodesh.
It's like being a passive spectator in a football game, while you should be on the field,
making a difference. 

Anyway, I am all in favor of Torah ruling. For all of Israel. Sovereignty is exactly about that. 
What I oppose and what I said is disconnected with reality, is your idea of calling for a separate Torah autonomy only in Judea and samaria.
In other words you want the half a million jews of Judea and samaria to disconnect from Israel and create a Torah autonomy in J&S.
That is completely disconnected from reality.

So I say: Let's bring to israel another 1 million Torah observant Jews  (who anyway shouldnt be living in Galut),
that will add dozens of more seats in the Knesset for Torah observant Jews,
and all of Israel will benefit from it. 
Promoting a separate Torah autonomy is a waste of time and is fundamentally wrong. We've been divided enough.
Koltuv

‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 16 ביוני 2022 ב-7:51 מאת ‪Robin Ticker‬‏ <‪faigerayzel@gmail.com‬‏>:‬
Bsd

אל המקום אשר...

Dear Nadia and Yehudit, amvsh

Is Jonathan Pollard disconnected from reality?
Jonathan Pollard: Israel is heading to disaster
'I'm waiting for a real Jewish leader.' Pollard slams government, compares life in Israel to his time in prison. 'This never ends well.'

As Esther Pollard asked "Do you feel the pain of the people"

Has the Sovereign Movement, or have the leaders, either spiritual and political in Yesha, united in protest, regarding the unlawful  miscarriage of justice with Amiram ben Uliel who is sentenced for life with cruel and harsh imprisonment for already close to 7 years? He is sentenced for a crime he never committed with no evidence other than his own forced confession following torture!

The reality is that political forces divide and conquer the Settlers and the communities in Judea and Samaria and every organization is in it for themselves.

Where is Ein Od Milvado? What are we afraid of?

Perhaps if we unite and protest, Amiram ben Uliel would be home with his family, Ahuvia Sandek might still be alive...Elisha Odess would not have been traumatized..

Yet we tolerate Inui Hadin.  Delaying justice. 

Is making believe Duma never happened and turning a blind eye to injustice and the pain and suffering of fellow Jews who are political scapegoats, consistent with being connected with reality?

Why is the suggestion of a Palestinian Autonomy connected to reality but a suggestion of a Torah Autonomy isn't?

Is reality simply playing the political game or is reality the courage to expose the sick reality and risk serious backlash ?

Are we so afraid of a govt who spies on its G-d fearing citizens, and afraid of being marginalized and branded as religious fanatics, for daring to be proud to dream for Torah leadership?

What is the real meaning of Sovereignty? 

Does being Sovereign translate into becoming enslaved to evil forces who dictate how much of Torah we can strive for before they decide it's gone too far?   Is this the meaning of being connected to reality?

Here is another example of being connected to reality.

United with Israel
WATCH: BDS Mapping Project 'Laying Groundwork for Kristallnacht 2.0'

BDS activists in Boston recently released an interactive map they claim reveals the connections between "Zionist leaders and major NGOs."
The map included not only Jewish organizations but schools and synagogues as well as staff members' names.

So yes, I am connected to a reality so disturbing that the only solution is Ein Od Milvado, an Almighty G-d. If we want Him on our side we now need to keep His Commandments and be loyal to His, a G-d fearing agenda!
לא בשמים היא...

The Torah clearly spells out the process of Returning to Him and to Eretz Yisroel.

Being connected to G-d and connected to Torah for Jews and Torah for non Jews is the only reality.  Being disconnected from Torah is being disconnected from reality.

Please read this Perek as it spells out how Hashem will  return the exiles to Zion.
Devarim Perek ל 30

Our return is dependent on us Returning to Hashem and keeping His commanndments.

I find it sweet that those who pray for the welfare of Amiram ben Uliel every day say the following and mean it with their heart and soul.  They wait for a verdict on Amiram's appeal which is not forthcoming in spite of all the evidence of his innocence.  

Obviously the judges can't bring themselves to admit and confess their own guilt. Who will judge the judges?

...May Hashem hear our cries and  BEH may Amiram ben Nurit like Yosef HaTzadik be released from bondage and be zocheh to bring a Korban Toda and may we merit to see Moshiach  Tzidkeinu  and the rebuilding of the Beit HaMikdash Bimheira Beyameinu Amen!

Posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com on June 16, 2022

On Sun, Jun 12, 2022, 6:23 PM Nadia Matar <nadiamatar1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Robin

Your idea of a Torah autonomy is so disconnected with reality and shows how you are not in touch with what is going on here in israel,  
that I don't know even know where to start to explain things to you.

I appreciate your care and worry for israel from far- but in the end, for anyone who wants to promote any idea or solution- one needs to make sure 
that one has a large group of people supporting such ideas
When another million Torah observant Jews would actually leave Galut and come to israel on Aliya- and settle in Judea and samaria,
you won't need any out of the box unrealistic autonomy plans- you simply would have a situation where there would be a clear rightwing Torah observant majority
 that would form a real rightwing government with no problem

So instead of promoting plans that are disconnected from reality- let's promote the aliya of one million Torah observant Jews
and you will see how things will change for the better in israel.

Koltuv
Nadia Matar

‫בתאריך יום א׳, 12 ביוני 2022 ב-20:01 מאת ‪Robin Ticker‬‏ <‪faigerayzel@gmail.com‬‏>:‬
Bsd

Dear Nadia and Yehudit, amv"sh

אל המקום אשר...

What are your thoughts on these?


A Palestinian state is on the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6BTcsJLrE


Fyi


I am once again sending you a proposal for a prototype  Torah Autonomy for Judea and Samaria that needs to be reconsidered in light of global current events. 


Please note that the intention is not G-d forbid to divide the Jewish people and or the Government and State of Israel.  The opposite. It is for Israel to survive with Unity as G-d intended. It is to present ideas that are out of the box that has never recently been seriously publicly considered, analyzed and debated.


Actually such a discussion took place in Marianbad in 1937 by the Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah and the Resolution was for Israel to be a State governed by Torah laws.


The time simply was not ripe.


Perhaps now the time is more ripe.


Why is the suggestion of a small scale prototype Torah Autonomy in Judea and Samaria  considered divisive while an anti G-d plan that is being created with facts on the ground coming from an alliance of the EU and the Civil Authority not considered divisive?


Why is this? After all, the latter solution clearly endangers and abandons our Jewish G-d fearing brothers and sisters living in Judea and Samaria?


This is probably because the closer we get to forming a G-d fearing Government in Israel and elsewhere with G-d fearing laws,  be it in Israel or the Diaspora, it greatly threatens the evil Anti G-d Global forces who are pushing their agenda, an agenda to remove G-d from the narrative. 


In NY we feel it strongly as they push to force a very hostile curriculum on Jewish Orthodox Yeshivas. Their agenda pushes the negation of the 7 Noahide laws with GENDER studies and late term abortion indoctrination on little children.



This post is therefore as relevant today as then and probably more urgent.


Let me end with a parable brought by Rabbi Akiva. Thank you Rabbi Smith who brought down this parable in this weeks Parsha Naso class.


Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith Imperative for Life to Teach Jewish Kids (and Adults) Torah... and non Jewish Kids (and Adults) Torah for non-Jews!

https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2022/06/rabbi-yitzchok-dovid-smith-imperative.html?m=1


 and tied it to the educational crisis happening in Yeshivas.


Can G-d fearing Jews live side by side peacefully with a Palestinian Autonomy? Impossible.


Berakhot 61b

The William Davidson Talmud(Koren - Steinsaltz)


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תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: פַּעַם אַחַת גָּזְרָה מַלְכוּת הָרְשָׁעָה שֶׁלֹּא יַעַסְקוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּתּוֹרָה. בָּא פַּפּוּס בֶּן יְהוּדָה וּמְצָאוֹ לְרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא שֶׁהָיָה מַקְהִיל קְהִלּוֹת בָּרַבִּים וְעוֹסֵק בַּתּוֹרָה. אָמַר לוֹ: עֲקִיבָא אִי אַתָּה מִתְיָרֵא מִפְּנֵי מַלְכוּת?

The Gemara relates at length how Rabbi Akiva fulfilled these directives. The Sages taught: One time, after the bar Kokheva rebellion, the evil empire of Rome decreed that Israel may not engage in the study and practice of Torah. Pappos ben Yehuda came and found Rabbi Akiva, who was convening assemblies in public and engaging in Torah study. Pappos said to him: Akiva, are you not afraid of the empire?

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אָמַר לוֹ: אֶמְשׁוֹל לְךָ מָשָׁל, לְמָה הַדָּבָר דּוֹמֶה — לְשׁוּעָל שֶׁהָיָה מְהַלֵּךְ עַל גַּב הַנָּהָר, וְרָאָה דָּגִים שֶׁהָיוּ מִתְקַבְּצִים מִמָּקוֹם לְמָקוֹם. אָמַר לָהֶם: מִפְּנֵי מָה אַתֶּם בּוֹרְחִים? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: מִפְּנֵי רְשָׁתוֹת שֶׁמְּבִיאִין עָלֵינוּ בְּנֵי אָדָם. אָמַר לָהֶם: רְצוֹנְכֶם שֶׁתַּעֲלוּ לַיַּבָּשָׁה, וְנָדוּר אֲנִי וְאַתֶּם, כְּשֵׁם שֶׁדָּרוּ אֲבוֹתַי עִם אֲבוֹתֵיכֶם? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אַתָּה הוּא שֶׁאוֹמְרִים עָלֶיךָ פִּקֵּחַ שֶׁבַּחַיּוֹת?! לֹא פִּקֵּחַ אַתָּה, אֶלָּא טִפֵּשׁ אַתָּה! וּמָה בִּמְקוֹם חִיּוּתֵנוּ, אָנוּ מִתְיָרְאִין, בִּמְקוֹם מִיתָתֵנוּ — עַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה. אַף אֲנַחְנוּ עַכְשָׁיו שֶׁאָנוּ יוֹשְׁבִים וְעוֹסְקִים בַּתּוֹרָה, שֶׁכָּתוּב בָּהּ: ״כִּי הוּא חַיֶּיךָ וְאֹרֶךְ יָמֶיךָ״, כָּךְ, אִם אָנוּ הוֹלְכִים וּמְבַטְּלִים מִמֶּנָּה — עַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה!

Rabbi Akiva answered him: I will relate a parable. To what can this be compared? It is like a fox walking along a riverbank when he sees fish gathering and fleeing from place to place.

The fox said to them: From what are you fleeing?

They said to him: We are fleeing from the nets that people cast upon us.

He said to them: Do you wish to come up onto dry land, and we will reside together just as my ancestors resided with your ancestors?

The fish said to him: You are the one of whom they say, he is the cleverest of animals? You are not clever; you are a fool. If we are afraid in the water, our natural habitat which gives us life, then in a habitat that causes our death, all the more so.

The moral is: So too, we Jews, now that we sit and engage in Torah study, about which it is written: "For that is your life, and the length of your days" (Deuteronomy 30:20), we fear the empire to this extent; if we proceed to sit idle from its study, as its abandonment is the habitat that causes our death, all the more so will we fear the empire.

-----


Merely starting a discussion for a prototype Torah Autonomy in Judea and Samaria will bring fear in those who are creating facts on the ground for a Palestinian State. This is worthy to fight for with all our hearts and soul.


A Historic New Beginning as Sovereignty is on Hold. My letter to AFSI - Thinking out of the Box - A Judean Autonomy.

https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2020/09/fwd-historic-new-beginning-as.html?m=1


Posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com June 12, 2022


Wednesday, June 15, 2022

Re: Being connected with reality...

Bsd

אל המקום אשר...

Dear Nadia and Yehudit, amvsh

Is Jonathan Pollard disconnected from reality?
Jonathan Pollard: Israel is heading to disaster
'I'm waiting for a real Jewish leader.' Pollard slams government, compares life in Israel to his time in prison. 'This never ends well.'

As Esther Pollard asked "Do you feel the pain of the people"

Has the Sovereign Movement, or have the leaders, either spiritual and political in Yesha, united in protest, regarding the unlawful  miscarriage of justice with Amiram ben Uliel who is sentenced for life with cruel and harsh imprisonment for already close to 7 years? He is sentenced for a crime he never committed with no evidence other than his own forced confession following torture!

The reality is that political forces divide and conquer the Settlers and the communities in Judea and Samaria and every organization is in it for themselves.

Where is Ein Od Milvado? What are we afraid of?

Perhaps if we unite and protest, Amiram ben Uliel would be home with his family, Ahuvia Sandek might still be alive...Elisha Odess would not have been traumatized..

Yet we tolerate Inui Hadin.  Delaying justice. 

Is making believe Duma never happened and turning a blind eye to injustice and the pain and suffering of fellow Jews who are political scapegoats, consistent with being connected with reality?

Why is the suggestion of a Palestinian Autonomy connected to reality but a suggestion of a Torah Autonomy isn't?

Is reality simply playing the political game or is reality the courage to expose the sick reality and risk serious backlash ?

Are we so afraid of a govt who spies on its G-d fearing citizens, and afraid of being marginalized and branded as religious fanatics, for daring to be proud to dream for Torah leadership?

What is the real meaning of Sovereignty? 

Does being Sovereign translate into becoming enslaved to evil forces who dictate how much of Torah we can strive for before they decide it's gone too far?   Is this the meaning of being connected to reality?

Here is another example of being connected to reality.

United with Israel
WATCH: BDS Mapping Project 'Laying Groundwork for Kristallnacht 2.0'

BDS activists in Boston recently released an interactive map they claim reveals the connections between "Zionist leaders and major NGOs."
The map included not only Jewish organizations but schools and synagogues as well as staff members' names.

So yes, I am connected to a reality so disturbing that the only solution is Ein Od Milvado, an Almighty G-d. If we want Him on our side we now need to keep His Commandments and be loyal to His, a G-d fearing agenda!
לא בשמים היא...

The Torah clearly spells out the process of Returning to Him and to Eretz Yisroel.

Being connected to G-d and connected to Torah for Jews and Torah for non Jews is the only reality.  Being disconnected from Torah is being disconnected from reality.

Please read this Perek as it spells out how Hashem will  return the exiles to Zion.
Devarim Perek ל 30

Our return is dependent on us Returning to Hashem and keeping His commanndments.

I find it sweet that those who pray for the welfare of Amiram ben Uliel every day say the following and mean it with their heart and soul.  They wait for a verdict on Amiram's appeal which is not forthcoming in spite of all the evidence of his innocence.  

Obviously the judges can't bring themselves to admit and confess their own guilt. Who will judge the judges?

...May Hashem hear our cries and  BEH may Amiram ben Nurit like Yosef HaTzadik be released from bondage and be zocheh to bring a Korban Toda and may we merit to see Moshiach  Tzidkeinu  and the rebuilding of the Beit HaMikdash Bimheira Beyameinu Amen!

Posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com on June 16, 2022

On Sun, Jun 12, 2022, 6:23 PM Nadia Matar <nadiamatar1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Robin

Your idea of a Torah autonomy is so disconnected with reality and shows how you are not in touch with what is going on here in israel,  
that I don't know even know where to start to explain things to you.

I appreciate your care and worry for israel from far- but in the end, for anyone who wants to promote any idea or solution- one needs to make sure 
that one has a large group of people supporting such ideas
When another million Torah observant Jews would actually leave Galut and come to israel on Aliya- and settle in Judea and samaria,
you won't need any out of the box unrealistic autonomy plans- you simply would have a situation where there would be a clear rightwing Torah observant majority
 that would form a real rightwing government with no problem

So instead of promoting plans that are disconnected from reality- let's promote the aliya of one million Torah observant Jews
and you will see how things will change for the better in israel.

Koltuv
Nadia Matar

‫בתאריך יום א׳, 12 ביוני 2022 ב-20:01 מאת ‪Robin Ticker‬‏ <‪faigerayzel@gmail.com‬‏>:‬
Bsd

Dear Nadia and Yehudit, amv"sh

אל המקום אשר...

What are your thoughts on these?


A Palestinian state is on the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6BTcsJLrE


Fyi


I am once again sending you a proposal for a prototype  Torah Autonomy for Judea and Samaria that needs to be reconsidered in light of global current events. 


Please note that the intention is not G-d forbid to divide the Jewish people and or the Government and State of Israel.  The opposite. It is for Israel to survive with Unity as G-d intended. It is to present ideas that are out of the box that has never recently been seriously publicly considered, analyzed and debated.


Actually such a discussion took place in Marianbad in 1937 by the Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah and the Resolution was for Israel to be a State governed by Torah laws.


The time simply was not ripe.


Perhaps now the time is more ripe.


Why is the suggestion of a small scale prototype Torah Autonomy in Judea and Samaria  considered divisive while an anti G-d plan that is being created with facts on the ground coming from an alliance of the EU and the Civil Authority not considered divisive?


Why is this? After all, the latter solution clearly endangers and abandons our Jewish G-d fearing brothers and sisters living in Judea and Samaria?


This is probably because the closer we get to forming a G-d fearing Government in Israel and elsewhere with G-d fearing laws,  be it in Israel or the Diaspora, it greatly threatens the evil Anti G-d Global forces who are pushing their agenda, an agenda to remove G-d from the narrative. 


In NY we feel it strongly as they push to force a very hostile curriculum on Jewish Orthodox Yeshivas. Their agenda pushes the negation of the 7 Noahide laws with GENDER studies and late term abortion indoctrination on little children.



This post is therefore as relevant today as then and probably more urgent.


Let me end with a parable brought by Rabbi Akiva. Thank you Rabbi Smith who brought down this parable in this weeks Parsha Naso class.


Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith Imperative for Life to Teach Jewish Kids (and Adults) Torah... and non Jewish Kids (and Adults) Torah for non-Jews!

https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2022/06/rabbi-yitzchok-dovid-smith-imperative.html?m=1


 and tied it to the educational crisis happening in Yeshivas.


Can G-d fearing Jews live side by side peacefully with a Palestinian Autonomy? Impossible.


Berakhot 61b

The William Davidson Talmud(Koren - Steinsaltz)


6

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: פַּעַם אַחַת גָּזְרָה מַלְכוּת הָרְשָׁעָה שֶׁלֹּא יַעַסְקוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּתּוֹרָה. בָּא פַּפּוּס בֶּן יְהוּדָה וּמְצָאוֹ לְרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא שֶׁהָיָה מַקְהִיל קְהִלּוֹת בָּרַבִּים וְעוֹסֵק בַּתּוֹרָה. אָמַר לוֹ: עֲקִיבָא אִי אַתָּה מִתְיָרֵא מִפְּנֵי מַלְכוּת?

The Gemara relates at length how Rabbi Akiva fulfilled these directives. The Sages taught: One time, after the bar Kokheva rebellion, the evil empire of Rome decreed that Israel may not engage in the study and practice of Torah. Pappos ben Yehuda came and found Rabbi Akiva, who was convening assemblies in public and engaging in Torah study. Pappos said to him: Akiva, are you not afraid of the empire?

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אָמַר לוֹ: אֶמְשׁוֹל לְךָ מָשָׁל, לְמָה הַדָּבָר דּוֹמֶה — לְשׁוּעָל שֶׁהָיָה מְהַלֵּךְ עַל גַּב הַנָּהָר, וְרָאָה דָּגִים שֶׁהָיוּ מִתְקַבְּצִים מִמָּקוֹם לְמָקוֹם. אָמַר לָהֶם: מִפְּנֵי מָה אַתֶּם בּוֹרְחִים? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: מִפְּנֵי רְשָׁתוֹת שֶׁמְּבִיאִין עָלֵינוּ בְּנֵי אָדָם. אָמַר לָהֶם: רְצוֹנְכֶם שֶׁתַּעֲלוּ לַיַּבָּשָׁה, וְנָדוּר אֲנִי וְאַתֶּם, כְּשֵׁם שֶׁדָּרוּ אֲבוֹתַי עִם אֲבוֹתֵיכֶם? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אַתָּה הוּא שֶׁאוֹמְרִים עָלֶיךָ פִּקֵּחַ שֶׁבַּחַיּוֹת?! לֹא פִּקֵּחַ אַתָּה, אֶלָּא טִפֵּשׁ אַתָּה! וּמָה בִּמְקוֹם חִיּוּתֵנוּ, אָנוּ מִתְיָרְאִין, בִּמְקוֹם מִיתָתֵנוּ — עַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה. אַף אֲנַחְנוּ עַכְשָׁיו שֶׁאָנוּ יוֹשְׁבִים וְעוֹסְקִים בַּתּוֹרָה, שֶׁכָּתוּב בָּהּ: ״כִּי הוּא חַיֶּיךָ וְאֹרֶךְ יָמֶיךָ״, כָּךְ, אִם אָנוּ הוֹלְכִים וּמְבַטְּלִים מִמֶּנָּה — עַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה!

Rabbi Akiva answered him: I will relate a parable. To what can this be compared? It is like a fox walking along a riverbank when he sees fish gathering and fleeing from place to place.

The fox said to them: From what are you fleeing?

They said to him: We are fleeing from the nets that people cast upon us.

He said to them: Do you wish to come up onto dry land, and we will reside together just as my ancestors resided with your ancestors?

The fish said to him: You are the one of whom they say, he is the cleverest of animals? You are not clever; you are a fool. If we are afraid in the water, our natural habitat which gives us life, then in a habitat that causes our death, all the more so.

The moral is: So too, we Jews, now that we sit and engage in Torah study, about which it is written: "For that is your life, and the length of your days" (Deuteronomy 30:20), we fear the empire to this extent; if we proceed to sit idle from its study, as its abandonment is the habitat that causes our death, all the more so will we fear the empire.

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Merely starting a discussion for a prototype Torah Autonomy in Judea and Samaria will bring fear in those who are creating facts on the ground for a Palestinian State. This is worthy to fight for with all our hearts and soul.


A Historic New Beginning as Sovereignty is on Hold. My letter to AFSI - Thinking out of the Box - A Judean Autonomy.

https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2020/09/fwd-historic-new-beginning-as.html?m=1


Posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com June 12, 2022


Wednesday, November 13, 2019

Letter to the Prime Minister of Israel re: Clashes between Jewish Residents in Yizhar and Police. Be Introspective. You Now Know How It Feels To Be The Target Of Unfair Investigations And Accusations!

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Breishit 12:1
לֶךְ־לְךָ֛ מֵֽאַרְצְךָ֥ וּמִמּֽוֹלַדְתְּךָ֖ וּמִבֵּ֣ית אָבִ֑יךָ אֶל־הָאָ֖רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַרְאֶֽךָּ  

וְלֶ֨ךְ־לְךָ֔ אֶל־אֶ֖רֶץ הַמֹּֽרִיָּ֑ה Breishit 22:2
וְהַֽעֲלֵ֤הוּ שָׁם֙ לְעֹלָ֔ה עַ֚ל אַחַ֣ד הֶֽהָרִ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֖ר אֹמַ֥ר אֵלֶֽיךָ 

  וַיָּבֹ֗אוּ אֶל־הַמָּקוֹם֘ אֲשֶׁ֣ר אָֽמַר־ל֣וֹ הָֽאֱלֹהִים֒ Breishit 22:9

Lichvod Prime Minister Bibi Netanyhu, amv'sh

In case you are open to self introspection as per why you have been targeted with all kinds of legal problems, criminal investigations and charges of corruption,  here is some food for thought. 

As starters, here are some fabulous links that you probably don't find in the mainstream media about Yishuv Yitzhar we Love! [1][2

Wikipedia link on Yitzhar [28] slanders the community! 

Analysis of Current Events that's been in the news:

Cops, Jewish residents injured during clashes in Samaria Police surround house in Israeli town of Yitzhar in Samaria, after resident violates administrative order requiring him to leave area. [3a][3b][3c]

...The clashes erupted after a large contingent of police and Border Police forces surrounded the home of Neriah Zarog, a resident of Yitzhar who had remained in his home, in defiance of an administrative order distancing him from the town.  


"...Netanyahu calls for the law to be respected and for an immediate halt to violence against the security forces. IDF soldiers and Border Police forces, which guard us all, must be allowed to carry out their work. Violations of the law will not be tolerated," a spokesperson for the Prime Minister's Office said Sunday night.  

Itamar Ben Gvir tweeted a video of Neriya Zarog being in tremendous pain when they forcefully came to remove him from his home.  What is happening exactly? [4] Very disturbing video. 

In the News...Prime Minister Netanyahu gets a taste of  law and order not exactly to his own liking. 
  • Legal woes: criminal and corruption charges against him [5]
  • Security forces are taking away Netanyahu's media advisor's phones and rights. [5a] 
  • Embarrassing picture of photomontage of Bibi as a Nazi blogger by Avishai Raviv in 2011 a Shabak agent. [6] Prosecuter Shai Nitzan didn't think it was such a big deal and dismissed the case.

Mr. Prime Minister Netanyahu. is Neriya Zarog, a ticking time bomb? Surely you can differentiate  between a real ticking time bomb like Islamic Jihad Commander Baha Abu Al-Atta and Hilltop Youth Settlers Neriya Zarog, minor E. and Amiram ben Uliel?  [7

What did Neriya Zarog of Kumi Ori's do that deserved such a violent police confrontation?

Neriya  Zarog writes (translated from Hebrew)  [11]
"The reason for the order is my building activity on the Hilltop. You are turning a blind eye to the Arab takeover that would endanger our lives and the lives of your soldiers"

With all the fake news of alleged corruption and crimes, in comparison with Neriya Zarog and other Hilltop Youth, the Prime Minister, has been treated with kid gloves.

That doesn't make the witch hunt against him right or acceptable but it's an observation.

G-d forbid they should escalate their methods and use blackmail (in case they haven't already) and torture,  to extract forced confessions of nonexistent wrongdoing. [8] [9] [10]

Israel has wasted valuable resources of the Police and the IDF fighting our fellow Jew, settlers of Judea and Samaria, treating them as ticking time bombs rather than protecting them! With Four Policemen for Every Settler, This Is How Israel Plans to Evacuate Illegal Outpost of Amona [17]

Aren't settlers in Judea and Samaria taxpaying citizens? 

Taxation without representation was cause enough for the American Revolution! [12][12a (How much more so would the American Patriots had been justified in starting a Revolution had the  intolerable acts been more intolerable than mere taxation without representation.  I am referring to having to deal with restraining orders from their homes, detention and interrogations with no real evidence of wrongdoing,  smear campaigns, blood libels, emotional and physical torture, incarceration with no conviction as the trial is delayed for years, being spied on, incited with aggression and violence!) 

Am I suggesting a revolution from the State of Israel. A Civil War? The State of Judea vs the State of Israel? 

No. Neither am I part of a Machteret, an underground group committed to a coup of the State of Israel. I firmly believe that Am Yisroel must be united. I am simply making a case to justify Neriya Zarog's actions and his justified civil disobedience, for ignoring an immoral administrative restraining order against him and the right of others to protest without getting injured. 

Israeli and/or Jewish parents do not entrust their kids to the IDF and send them into combat for them to  harass and fight Jewish Settlers in Judea and Samaria,  treating fellow Jews, as the enemy!

This group of Jewish ideological protesters,  understand the consequences of an immoral expulsion from the Land of Israel. They haven't forgotten nor forgiven Gush Katif  [13] nor Amona [14] [15] [16]. 
They understand why today and in the past,  there are hundreds of rockets coming from the Gazan border raining upon the civilian population of Southern Israel and Gush Dan area. [18]. These rocket attacks are a direct consequence of Israel withdrawing from Gush Katif in Gaza in 2005 following the Disengagement.

Yes these Hilltop Youth protesters as well as many Jews who want to know the truth,  identify with the Duma suspects who were tortured and  are still threatened emotionally and physically, incarcerated now almost 4 years with their names smeared...falsely accused of being Jewish Terrorists. [19]

July 2015, PM Netanyahu with many other VIP's rushed to condemn Jews for the Duma Arson with no credible evidence of Jews being the perpetrators.  Hebrew graffiti on the scene was the basis of the presumption of guilt, that Jews were the perpetrators. [20][21][22]

The Jewish Division of Terror of Shabak tried their hardest to plant moles, agents and staged prison scenes to manufacture evidence that there are Jewish Terrorists.[23][24]

They succeeded in extracting forced confessions which are inadmissible in a court of law and succeeded in convicting scapegoat suspect, minor E.  of belonging to a terror organization. [25][25a] It was a political conviction not based on truth or reality. 

The truth as per what really happened in Duma that night still remains a mystery. 

How many Arabs were interrogated? 

Is pursuing Hilltop Youth the end goal....or is pursuing justice?

Political leaders, top down, Rabbis, Community leaders etc.  rushed to condemn Settler Youth trusting the word of the PM, the President, the DM, the Justice Dept,  Shabak etc before a fair, unbiased, thorough investigation, trial or verdict had ever taken place.

Who will investigate the investigators?

Four years later, and there is still no credible evidence against the Duma suspects yet two Jewish kids are still in jail, living under house arrest or solitary confinement under harsh conditions.

Netanyahu and the others have yet to apologize for rash condemnation and libel.

Do the tears of these victims go unheeded in a Heavenly court?

Maybe, Netanyahu  needs to have a taste of what they have endured to understand the magnitude of evil perpetrated against innocent Settlers and Settler youth. 

 What goes around comes around.....For PM Netanyahu so far it's manufactured accusations, tapping phone conversations, spying, interrogations and being discredited and being an innocent smear victim for political gain. 

Prime Minister Netanyahu....It need not go any further if justice rather than politics is the end goal. Apologize and demand the release of the Duma suspects held lawlessly.  Bezrat Hashem, and with G-d's Will, measure for measure,  may you too be judged with truth and justice. 

Yesh Din veYesh Dayan. [26]

צדק צדק תרדוף 
[27] 

Reference Links:

1.  Ezra Ridley The Jewish Heritage Project: Beloved Yitzhar, יצהר הוא היישוב שכולנו אוהבים https://youtu.be/8L84tcJD h8
2. The Ultimate Givers of Yitzhar,  Yitzhar has been home to the largest number of people who have donated their kidneys  https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/religious-secular-in-israel-israel/the-ultimate-givers-of-yitzhar/2019/09/13/
3a. Cops, Jewish residents injured during clashes in Samaria  Arutz Sheva Staff, 10/11/19  http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/271409
3b. Honenu reports: Yitzhar resident Neriya Zarog faces administrative distancing order Sunday, September 15, 2019
3c. Clashes in Samaria as Israeli forces drag Jewish youth from home  November 11, 2019
4. Twitter Itamar ben Gvir. tweeted video reminiscent of torture. What's happening?  · Nov 11, 2019 1:52 AM
מזכיר את מתקני העינויים שאנו קוראים עליהם בספרי היסטוריה. בושה שכך מתייחסים ליהודים
(rough translation of tweet.. Reminiscent of torture we read about in History books. For shame that this is [Israel's] treatment towards fellow Jews 
5. Explainer: Netanyahu's legal woes: How much trouble is he in? OCTOBER 2, 2019  by Maayan Lubell, Jeffrey Heller
5a. A terrifying assault on Israeli press freedom by Caroline Glick
6. Attorney General's office says photomontage of Bibi as a Nazi okay
7. Netanyahu: Slain Islamic Jihad leader a 'ticking bomb'
Situation escalated Tuesday in Gaza Strip after Israeli forces killed Bahaa Abu al-Atta, commander of Islamic Jihad group Aness Suheil Barghoti   |
12.11.2019
8. Shin Bet: Duma suspects treated as 'ticking bombs'
Agency got approval to use 'physical pressure' after intelligence indicated new terror attack in coming days
By TOI STAFF 24 December 2015
9. No, not a confession at any cost
Interrogators who push suspects to confess in order to end their investigations risk the real criminals going free Ari Zivotovsky
JAN 7, 2019, 3:51 PM
10. Coerced confessions: The long-awaited decision and the need to investigate who authorized them
Even when a crime is as vile as the Dawabshehs' burning deaths, laws against torturing criminals must prevail Ari Zivotovsky
JUN 18, 2018
11.  An administrative restraining order against a father of a household, a resident of the Shomron.   Ahead of the administrative order, the resident sent a letter to the commander: "The reason for the order is my activity Hilltop buiding. You are turning a blind eye to the Arab takeover that would endanger our lives and the lives of your soldiers  צו הרחקה מנהלי כנגד אב למשפחה תושב השומרון לקראת הצו מהנהלי, שלח התושב מכתב לאלוף הפיקוד: "הסיבה לצו היא פעילותי לבניין הגבעות. אתם מעלימים עין מהשתלטות הערבית שתסכן את חיינו ואת חיי חיילך"
12. No taxation without representation
14. Evacuation of Amona, once site of settlers' bloody stand, stirs fears of violent repeat
Security forces prepare for confrontation in razing of contentious outpost, but some hold out hope the order will be carried out peacefullyBy JUDAH ARI GROSS  November 29,  2016
15. Three Knesset Members Hurt in Amona Evacuation http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/97760#.V3I34fkrJdg
16. Remembering the Horrible Atrocities that Happened in Amona
17. With Four Policemen for Every Settler, This Is How Israel Plans to Evacuate Illegal Outpost of Amona
18.  Over 190 rockets launched at Israel since killing of Islamic Jihad commander
Sporadic fire from Strip continues as IDF hits rocket launching cells; 10 Gazans said killed in strikes; schools can reopen Wednesday in Tel Aviv area, will be closed in south https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-november-12-2019/
19. LATEST UPDATES and NEWS ON JEWISH DUMA SUSPECTS, ELISHA ODESS AND AMIRAM BEN ULIEL. Check out the latest links! Sunday, March 25, 2018  https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/search?q=duma
20. PM condemns 'horrific, heinous terror attack' on Palestinians
Army beefing up West Bank presence in fear of riots after baby burned to death; politicians denounce attack; Lapid: We're at war with an enemy within July 31, 2015  https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-condemns-terrible-heinous-terror-attack-on-palestinians/
21. Netanyahu Condemns Fatal West Bank Arson Attack, Calling It 'Terrorism'
Israeli PM tells Palestinian President Abbas that 'it's upon us to together fight terror, no matter which side perpetrates it.' July 31, 2015 https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-netanyahu-fatal-west-bank-arson-attack-is-terrorism-1.5381610
22. NETANYAHU 'SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED' AFTER VISITING HOSPITAL BEDSIDE OF PALESTINIAN BURN VICTIM JULY 31, 2015  https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Netanyahu-shocked-and-outraged-after-visiting-hospital-bedside-of-Palestinian-burn-victim-410766  "We must fight terrorism together, regardless of which side it comes from," Netanyahu told Abbas, when he called him on Friday to offer his condolences over the death of Palestinian toddler Ali Dawabsha, who was burned to death in an arson attack allegedly set by Jewish extremists.
23. Duma and the Return of the King Posted by Daniel Greenfield December 26, 2015 http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/12/duma-and-return-of-king.html?
24. The spy who never loved me: A mother of 7 says her marriage was a Shin Bet cover
Despite 15 years of lies, abuse and poverty, Riki Eyal mainly blames not her ex-husband, but the security service that recruited him to gather intelligence on her settler community https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-spy-who-never-loved-me-meet-the-woman-whose-marriage-was-a-shin-bet-cover/
25.  Duma Village Arson Minor Defendant Convicted of Terrorist Group Membership. 
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/the-courts/duma-village-arson-minor-defendant-convicted-of-terrorist-group-membership/2019/10/24/
25a. Court Decision that Duma Suspect who was a minor was a member of a Terrorist Organization. This occurred after recent military orders banished Neriyah Zaroge and his family, from Hilltop Outpost Kumi Ori. Connecting the dots...  https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2019/10/re-court-decision-that-duma-suspect-who.html
26.
יש דין ויש דיין | העונש של פושעי ההתנתקות 
27. Tzedek Tzedek Tirdof. Shabak tortured Duma Suspects to force them to bring false testimony against themselves. Maybe Abu Khdeir's "killers" sentenced to life imprisonment are also based on lies and falsehoods? Tzedek Tzedek Tirdof Parshat Mishpatim   https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2016/02/tzedek-tzedek-tirdof-shabak-tortured.html
28.  Yitzhar on Wikipedia retrieved Nov 14, 2019 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhar



Monday, September 16, 2019

Yehuda Ben-Shushan of Yitzhar interrogated accused of assaulting Arabs another victim of attempted slander and blood libel of Department of Nationalist Crime in the Central Unit of the Yehuda and Shomron

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With Elisha Odess still under house arrest, almost 4 years with no credible evidence that he planned the Duma arson which killed an Arab baby and his parents and Amiram Ben Uliel still languishing in jail 4 years after that same Duma arson with no credible evidence other than Graffiti that doesn't match and forced confessions following torture, yet another Settler of the community of Yitzhar, Shomron,  is falsely of accused of assaulting Arabs while the accusers themselves have the alibi.

The Jewish Division of Shabak must be investigated for unlawful  prosecution, intimidation, slander incrimination, interrogation, incarceration and miscarriage of Justice against Jewish Settler youth. Their justification of all of the above is probably rooted in a false  designation of followers of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane as a terrorist group.

Nothing can be further from the truth! 

These Jewish settlers are denied basic human rights and habeous corpus.


  • This Torah Law promoting group apparently threatens top political echelons,  VIPs from the top level of government down  including many Ministries, who have colluded  in creating this false and libelous narrative smearing the good name of Settlers.

https://honenu.org/incident-occurred-while-the-accused-was-interrogated/

Related:

Honenu reports: Yitzhar resident Neriya Zarog faces administrative distancing order

https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2019/09/fwd-honenu-reports-yitzhar-resident.html?m=1

WATCH: Media Smears ‘Jewish Extremists’ in Yitzhar Whose Town Has Most Kidney Donors in Israel Per Capita
http://bit.ly/2kdrZAm



Wednesday, August 07, 2019

Fwd:? לפסל רק לפיד Disqualify Bennett and Netanyahu not only Lapid. הערות


בס"ד

 Re:
עוצמה יהודית תעתור לועדת הבחירות בבקשה לפסול את לפיד מלרוץ לכנסת
Otzma Yehudit will put in a request to the election committee to disqualify Lapid from running in the Knesset

הערות:
My comments

גם את בנט לא רק לפיד צריך לפסל.
בנט פסל נער גבעות שבוע אחרי פרשת דומא ב  Op Ed ב NYTimes

Disqualify Bennett as well as he slandered the Jewish Hilltop Youth in the New York Times one week after Duma Arson calling them Jewish Terrorists. Is it any wonder he is now preventing  Otzma Yehudit, Rabbi Kahana's followers, from joining the United Right ?

August 8, 2015

OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR

Naftali Bennett on Israel's Jewish Terrorists

זה הכין את הקרקע למאמר נוסף שהשמיץ נוער גבעות

Which laid grounds for the next libelous NewYork Times article

NEW YORK TIMES JAN. 11, 2016

Israel Faces New Brand of Terrorism, This Time From Young Settlers

בנט הוציא עליהם דיבה רעה וגם הוציא שם רע על סמך מחלקה יהודית של שב"כ בלי הוראות evidence אמינים ועל גרפיטי שבכלל לא קשור לנוער גבעות החשודים. 

גם נתני-ה-ו אפשר לפסל שגם הוא אשם בדיבה רעה והוציא שם רע על נוער גבעות מיד אחרי פרשת דומא וגם היה סניגור על העינויים שסבלו. 

 Prime Minister Netanyahu and Bennett and many others (see link at end of post) slandered Hilltop Youth and ruined their reputation based on Shabak say so and based on Hebrew graffiti found on the scene.  The allegations have no credible evidence other than forced confessions of  the suspects after they were tortured.
The Hebrew graffiti wasn't even analysed nor ever linked to the suspects to the crime and now 3 years later when it was finally analysed by the defense experts, the graphologists found no connection of the graffiti to the Duma suspects.

Who indeed scribbled the graffiti while the arson was taking place?

Yet...

וגם הוא  מאז לא התנצל. 

Neither apologized for their false accusations.

אלישע אודס עדיין במאסר בית ועמירם בן אוליאל במאסר. זה עינוי דין כבר 3 שנים!  
Elisha Odess is still under house arrest  and Amiram Ben Uliel is still in jail.
ההפטרה שבת חזון ישעיהו פרק א.
 Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 1

ציון במשפט תפדה ושיביה בצדקה.

27 Zion shall be redeemed through justice and her penitent through righteousness

https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2016/01/duma-blood-libel-calling-hilltop-youth.html?m=1


בין שתילת הנשק בעיסאוויה לעלילות פרשת דומא
המשטרה העדיפה לשמש כמוסד יח"צ במקום להיצמד בנאמנות לחוק והביאה לשתילת הנשק בבית הערבי בעיסאוויה - יתכן שכך נהגה גם בחקר פרשת דומא?
דוד אור שחר ז' אב תשע"ט - 21:04 08/08/2019

Between the planting of arms in Issawiya and the investigation in the Duma affair:
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The police preferred to serve as a PR institution rather than cling faithfully to the law and resulted in planting of weapons in the Arab house in Issawiya - may this have been the case in Duma as well?

https://www.hakolhayehudi.co.il/item/Land_Israel/%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%94_%D7%9E%D7%A2%D7%93https://www.hakolhayehudi.co.il/item/Land_Israel/%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%94_%D7%9E%D7%A2%D7%93%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%94_%D7%99%D7%97_%D7%A6_%D7%A2%D7%9C_%D7%A4%D7%A0%D7%99_%D7%A0%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%98%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%94%D7%97%D7%95%D7%A7D7%99%D7%A4%D7%94_%D7%99%D7%97_%D7%A6_%D7%A2%D7%9C_%D7%A4%D7%A0%D7%99_%D7%A0%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%98%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%94%D7%97%D7%95%D7%A7

בבקשה תעשה חקירה!
 להשוות תנאי מאסר חשודי דומא לתנאי מאסר לטרוריסטים ערבים אמתיים

Please investigate the terms of their incarceration with the reported VIP treatment of   convicted Arab Terrorists, undisputed  dangerous terrorists  with blood on their hands. Here is just one Im Tirzu report (h).

https://www.mako.co.il/news-military/2019_Q3/Article-aa6424343976c61027.htm

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