Monday, February 09, 2009

fwd: Hell Arrives in Britain

bs"d

Dear Family and Friends, Dati or Secular, amv"sh

I usually do not send emails out that are so disturbing and alarming. If the rise of antisemitism is happening in Britain, then Canada and America have reason to worry.... 

How to effectively combat antisemitism?

It is my opinion that there is a strong correlation between Am Yisroel's longing and desire for Eretz Yisroel and to keep the commandments of the Torah in Eretz Yisroel,  with the rise and fall of Antisemitism

Yawn, "Yeah right" you say and then off you go on to your next email. This one is getting too long and too wordy.. What has this to do with the Hell in Britain?

But I beg you to continue reading.

All religous Jews agree that  Torah observance can only reach is full capacity within the Land of Israel and with our Beit Hamikdash. 

Yawn again. This is nothing new.

The religious and the secular don't like to talk about this practically and as relevant.

On to the next email...this ones not saying anything...too much musar (rebuke..)

The religious say that they believe that Eretz Yisroel belongs to us but act as if its an ellusive dream for the future.  They go around their daily lives as if the events taking place in Israel and the world are of no reflection or consequence as to the way they are observing the commandments of the Torah Not talking Lashon Hara and davening harder are emphasized among other select commandments and typically satisfy the religious requirements of observance of the Torah commandments.

Keeping the Land itself is of no major consequence.  The typical religious Jew will sit on the side watching, perhaps in dismay, as events unfold and as the political parties that represent them make deals with those that wish to give away Eretz Yisroel, 

The secular Zionists too have abandoned the Land. When we talk about the observance of Torah commandments, the secular are terrified of religious coercion. When we talk of observing commandments they perhaps are afraid that they will be forced to dress in a certain way and their lifestyle will be cramped because of not being able to turn on lights on Shabbos or travel.

These are some of the misconceptions of the religious Jew and the secular Jew! 

The Land is necessary for Torah observance and Torah does not cramp ones lifestyle.

Therefore, To effectively fight antisemitism we must agree on these basic points:

1. The Torah is the blueprint for each and every Jew and a model for the entire world.

2.  Eretz Yisroel is the birthright of the Jewish Nation and the laws and precepts of the Torah must be observed in the Land.

Once these two fundamental premises are engraved in our mindset we will act differently

No stone will be unturned to make sure that the land remains in Jewish hands protected and secure and  to see the relationship between the Jewish People and the Land as holy and sanctified as with a holy marriage. 

This means no talk of reciprocity or of other responsible partners..

 I believe that when the Jews clearly claim our entitlement of the Land of Israel, reject in principle and in action the formation of a Palestinian State because Eretz Yisroel is our birthright and because only Am Yisroel have the mandate to keep the commandments in the Land, than the forces of antisemitism will dissipate.

Therefore, rather than turn our energies into fighting a monster that is too great for us, we must put all our energies into creating the facts on the ground, such as political reform in Israel and in uniting in proclaiming our Divine Inheritance and acting to do whatever we can to secure and protect this Divine gift of ours. 

If after taking these steps the forces of evil continue to grow and the forces of antisemitism seems to be on an all time high, we must remember what happened in Egypt.  We must stand firm in our belief in the Torah and in Hakadosh Baruch Hu and be like the generation coming out of Egypt who cried out to Hashem and were worthy of seeing miraculous miracles.  G-d says I will fight for you and you will be Silent. (Anochi Alacheim Lachem Veatem Tacharishu!)

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Subject: Hell Arrives in Britain

Dear Friends,

 

This article by Melanie Phillips reinforces our need to take a close look at what is happening with Canadian universities – already many of our students state that they have to deal with intimidation when going to class. What is happening in British universities could happen here in Ontario if the administrations at many of our universities continue to turn a blind eye to the behavior of some students which contravenes the university's Code of Behavior. It's time that we started to look at this issue YERY seriously.

 

Shirley Anne Haber

The Media Action Group

info@mediaactiongroup.com

 

The jihad against Britain's Jews

Friday, 6th February 2009   Melanie Phillips

I am hearing ever more alarming accounts of the deepening attrition against British Jews in the wake of the incitement against Israel provoked by the war in Gaza. In addition to the record number of attacks upon Jewish individuals and institutions and murderous incitement displayed on the anti-Israel demonstrations and riots as reported by the Community Security Trust, Jewish parents report that their children – some as young as eight – are now running a gauntlet of attack from their Muslim classmates at school who accuse them of 'killing Palestinian children'. Comments by adults about 'Jews controlling all the money/the media/the BBC' (yes, really! All because it allowed Israel's spokesman to put the case for Israel from time to time) are now commonplace in both private and public discourse. Today's Jewish Chronicle reports that a 12 year-old Birmingham schoolgirl was terrorised by a mob of 20 youths chanting 'Kill all Jews' and 'Death to Jews' on her way home from school last week:

She said: 'One of my friends said an Asian girl from the year above asked her why she was talking to me because I am Jewish. I asked the girl in a friendly manner if she had a problem with me being Jewish. She said "yeah, I do". I managed to punch her before she hit me but then she grabbed me by the hair and swung me around shouting "f****** Jews, I hate Jews". But then another Asian girl rounded up a whole gang. They were all in school uniform and they came running towards me shouting "death to Jews" and "kill all Jews."'

A reader has sent me the following account of what happened to him when, travelling on the Tube in London, he started to read a copy of The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz:

After a time, I became aware that a man sitting diagonally in front of me near the doors at the end of the carriage was looking a bit agitated and had a disgruntled expression on his face. However, he didn't meet my eye, so I thought nothing more of it and continued reading as before...When the train reached St Paul's, the man I had noticed stood up to get off. But instead of leaving by the end doors, he made to pass me. In the process of doing so, he deliberately shoved into me and made to crush me against the side of the carriage and the passengers sitting behind me. Despite already knowing exactly what had actuated this behaviour, I asked the question anyway - and received the following response: 'You shouldn't be reading that, you f***ing [indecipherable].'...The whole confrontation had taken place in the time it took for the tube doors to wheeze open and shut.

Other than in the Jewish press, such incidents are barely being reported. Last week, for example, there was virtually no coverage of the violent demonstration organised by the Stop the War coalition which prevented the deputy commander of Israel's Gaza operation from speaking at London's Jewish student centre, Hillel House, when a crowd of about 60-80 students attempted to storm the building.

One of the most troubling developments is the way in which the universities have become an extension of the Middle East conflict, with a simulacrum of the aggression, intimidation and violence from which Israel is under attack by the Arabs being directed at Jewish students on British campuses, who now routinely run a gauntlet of intimidation and abuse from Arab and Muslim students. But even more worryingly, some universities are spinelessly choosing to give in to such bullying.

Throughout last week, after the cease-fire was declared in Gaza, there was a series of anti-Israel sit-ins and demonstrations organised by the STWC at some 17 universities: in London at the School of Oriental and African Studies, the London School of Economics, Queen Mary College and King's College, as well as at Bradford, Sheffield Hallam, Warwick, Leeds, Oxford, Cambridge, Sussex, Essex, Nottingham, Birmingham, Manchester, Manchester Metropolitan and Strathclyde. Some of these protests led to criminal damage and forced the universities to pay thousands of pounds to deal with the disruption, rearrange lectures, hire extra security guards and repair the damage.

The demonstrators took control of lecture halls and made a series of demands: that the universities should issue a statement condemning Israel's actions in Gaza; offer scholarships to Palestinian students; send surplus educational materials to help rebuild Gaza (presumably its Islamic University, said by Israel to be a fount of terror); dedicate some of their time to fund-raising for Gaza; and take no action against the demonstrators.

Some of these universities responded robustly to such disorder and intimidation. Manchester Metropolitan, Birmingham, Nottingham and, after some delay, Leeds and Cambridge reportedly refused to accept any of these demands.  At Nottingham and Sheffield Hallam, the demonstrators were forcibly evicted.

But the LSE, King's College London, SOAS, Bradford, Strathclyde and Oxford reportedly gave in to some or all of these demands. According to the JC, the LSE agreed to waive application fees for Gaza and West Bank students 'directly affected by the conflict', while Bradford

agreed to investigate the 'ethical background' of food and drink served on campus, and promised to 'explore the feasibility of a twinning link with the Islamic University of Gaza'.
 

Strathclyde agreed among other things to cancel a contract with an Israeli water-cooler company.  Oxford – which fined each demonstrator the princely sum of £20 – nevertheless started negotiations with them with indecent haste, and a mere few hours later had agreed to pretty well everything. In a craven letter to colleagues the Vice-Chancellor, John Hood, having stated that

unlawful action of this kind cannot be condoned

proceeded to reward it by giving the perpetrators what they had demanded.

The Oxford demonstrators also demanded that the title of the series of lectures on 'world peace' at Balliol, recently inaugurated by Israeli President Shimon Peres and named in his honour, be changed; the Senior Proctor, Professor Donald Fraser -- who oversees disciplinary matters and who recommended 'a relatively lenient course of action against the demonstrators '--  duly wrote to Balliol drawing its attention to the students' concerns.

Thus the trahison des clercs as they crumble in the face of criminality, violence and intimidation.

And so now at British universities --which should be the most protected of all environments for free discourse and inquiry -- British Jews no longer feel safe. At Nottingham, one such student said:

The sit-in has created an atmosphere where we do not feel comfortable going into shared buildings on campus.

At King's, another Jewish student said:

Someone from my course wrote 'kill the Jews' on my Facebook profile. Later he said he didn't know I was Jewish. In public someone said to me, 'I think all the Israelis are crazy and so are the f***ing Jews'.

And at Oxford, the JC reports:

One University Reader reportedly told a meeting that 'within five years, Oxford will be a Jew-free zone'

and a student wrote to Professor Fraser warning that

for Jewish students, the university and the city have developed a toxic atmosphere in which I and many others feel increasingly alienated and unwelcome.

Meanwhile, of course, as Sky's Tim Marshall pointed out the other day on his blog, the government of Sri Lanka is also attempting to eradicate terrorism by a military campaign in which, according to the UN, 'many civilians are being killed', thousands made homeless, hundreds of thousands trapped, and to which, as food shortages grow, the government refuses to allow access to journalists. Yet there are no sit-ins on campus against the Sri Lankans, no violent riots outside its High Commission, no calls to boycott Orange Pekoe tea. As Marshall observed:

And yet somehow the lives of the 1,300 Palestinians killed by the Israelis causes far more outrage, in certain quarters, than the 2 million dead in Congo, the tens of thousands of Iraqis killed by Sunni and Shia terrorists, or the growing number of Sri Lankan dead to add to the 70,000 killed over the past 25 years (far more than the number of Palestinians and Israelis killed in the same period).

Of course – because the protests in Britain have nothing to do with humanitarian concerns for the innocent. They are part of the jihad against the Jews – and those in the universities and other parts of the establishment who are capitulating to or even endorsing this are accomplices to a great evil that is now consuming British public life.

 

Accessed 7 February 2009, http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/3329296/the-jihad-against-britains-jews.thtml

 

09-02-06, Melanie Phillips, "The jihad against Britain's Jews," spectator.co.uk, 6 February 2009, http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/3329296/the-jihad-against-britains-jews.thtml  (accessed 7 February 2009).


Friday, February 06, 2009

Why I support National Union please read- INN: Arabs Told: Shape Up or Ship Out

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129800

Arabs Told: Shape Up or Ship Out
by Gil Ronen 

"We are a law abiding state and not only Jews have to respect the law, Arabs do too," the Ichud Leumi (National Union)'s leader Yaakov "Ketzaleh" Katz told Arabs Thursday in Wadi Ara, a valley densely populated by Arabs in northern Israel.


"The lawlessness in the Arab sector will end exactly five days from now, when we are elected into office," he vowed. "When we run the country, the situation will change. You've grown used to Barak and Livni's weakness, but the party is over."

"The October riots will not be repeated," Ketzaleh added, as a small crowd of Arabs from the city of Umm El-Fahm began to gather around the Knesset members and their supporters at the entrance to the city.


A small contingent of policemen, some of them from the special Yassam unit, pushed away some of the Arabs, but some of the locals got very close to the Ichud Leumi candidates and cursed them with various epithets. Knesset Member Uri Ariel was crowded by four or five Arabs but did not lose his cool and kept a determined grin on his face throughout. At the police's request, the Ichud Leumi convoy moved onward and stopped at Megiddo Junction, where they gave interviews to reporters from Jewish and Arabic media outlets.

Ketzaleh and MK Uri Ariel said that Arabs in Wadi Ara have built over 3,000 units illegally in recent years along Highway 65. They said it was time for Israel to begin demolishing illegally built Arab houses.

"In the State of Israel, there will no longer be a situation in which a Jew drives along the Wadi Ara road and the locals will shout 'Itbach al-Yahud' ['slaughter the Jews' – ed at him," Ketzaleh said. "This happened in Europe during the Holocaust but it will not happen in the State of Israel. The Arabs have 21 states in which they can build their houses and shout 'itbach' all day long," he said. "The Arabs are cowards and when they see the Jews behaving proudly they calm down very fast."

Humanitarian corridor to Venezuela

Number four on the Ichud Leumi list, Rabbi Dr. Michael Ben-Ari, told the Arabs listening to him that Israel would be willing to open a "humanitarian corridor" to Venezuela for Arabs wishing to leave. "It seems the Venezuelans and the Arabs get along well," he said, in a reference to recent statements and actions by Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez. When an Arab interrupted him and protested that the Arabs want good neighborly relations with the Jews, Ben Ari reminded him of the Arabs who chanted "Ya Saddam, ya chabib, udrub udrub Tel Aviv" [Saddam the beloved, hit Tel Aviv when Scud missiles were falling in the 1991 Gulf War.

MK Ariel promised that Israel would settle tens of thousands of Jews in Katzir and Harish in the coming years, and Ketzaleh noted the strategic importance of Wadi Ara, which serves for transportation of IDF tanks and other heavy equipment between central Israel and the north.

The Ichud Leumi faction announced that it intends to imitate Peace Now and establish a body that will research, document, complain and publicize illegal building. Unlike Peace Now, which is interested solely with Jewish building, the new body will deal with Arab building. Illegal construction in the Arab sector creates an atmosphere of lawlessness, the faction's spokesman said, which encourages the creation of terror cells.

bs"d Elections clarification regarding Shas

bs"d

Shas: "Land Can be Given away to a Responsible Partner"

This in my opinion is like saying "I can give away my wife to a responsible partner"..

What about the Land of Israel sanctified to Am Yisroel?




To family and friends living in Israel Elections - Please vote for your own safety! pls forward!

bs"d

Dear Family in Israel (Marilyn, Chana and Dasi) and Friends, amv"sh

If you are thinking of voting for any of the parties with a bad score (see below) think again. Do you really want to vote for a party that voted for the expulsion from Gush Katif and is willing to negotiate for a Palestinian State and dividing Jerusalem? 

If Rockets then fall in our homes as a result, than whom do we have to blame?

Please forward this to others that do vote or can forward to those that do vote.

Shabbat Shalom!


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ליברמן יביא את הטילים לתל-אביב??
ליברמן, במו ידיו, יכול לגרום לכך שתקום מדינה פלשתינית - כתוצאה, טילים יעופו בראשון -לציון ובת-ים . איך? 
אביגדור ליברמן לא מוכן להבטיח לבוחרים, שהוא ימליץ לנשיא המדינה להטיל על נתניהו להרכיב קואליציה.   כמו כן, אמנם מפלגת ישראל ביתנו הודיעה שהיא נגד מדינה פלשתינית, אך  האם ליברמן בעצמו  נגד מדינה פלשתינית? לא ברור, ליברמן מסרב להגיב.
אם  ליברמן  יסרב להמליץ על נתניהו ,    שמעון פרס  יוכל  להעדיף את ציפי לבני.  מדוע זה חשוב? כי ציפי לבני רוצה להקים ממשלה בעד מדינה פלשתינית, ואילו הממשלה שיקים נתניהו נוטה להתנגד למדינה פלשתינית .
  לסיכום: בינתיים  מסוכן להצביע ל"ישראל ביתנו" של ליברמן ועדיף להצביע למפלגות  שימלציו לנשיא המדינה על הקמת ממשלה ימנית. כלומר: איחוד לאומי. בית יהודי. ליכוד. ש"ס. מפלגות אלה גם הביעו התנגדות להקמת מדינה פלשתינית (התנגדות מוחלטת במקרה של איחוד לאומי, בית יהודי וש"ס -  והתנגדות מסוייגת במקרה של הליכוד). 
הערה:  אם  ליברמן יודיע שהוא ימליץ על נתניהו, ושהוא מתנגד למדינה פלשתינית -  נודיעכם בנפרד.  
כיצד המפלגות הצביעו בתקופת  גירוש גוש קטיף (הסקלה היא מ-14 מצויין עד 0 שמאל קיצוני, הסברים בסוף) :
 איחוד לאומי   - ט  -        14  (מצויין)  
 
מפדל  (בית יהודי) - ב -    14  (מצויין)
 
ש"ס                         -  12     (טוב מאד) 
 ליכוד -  מח"ל -         8.5 - 9 (תלוי אם סופרים את המועמדים הטובים ממקום 34 והלאה) - (טוב)
יהדות התורה -        ג -   7.75  (טוב מינוס) 
 ישראל ביתנו   -       ל  -  לא ניתן לקבוע,  המועמדים הנוכחיים  לא היו חברי כנסת בתקופת הגירוש
  הסבר: 14 = מצויין, 0 = הצביע עם השמאל והערבים.  הסקלה  כוללת  14 נקודות    משום שהיו 7 הצבעות בעניין הגירוש: תכנית הגירוש, חוק הגירוש - קריאה ראשונה שניה ושלישית, אישור תקציב הגירוש, הקמת ממשלת הגירוש, ומשאל עם. 14 נקודות = מי שהצביע "בסדר" בכל ההצבעות ,למשל נגד תכנית ההתנתקות, בעד משאל עם  וכו'.  0 = הצביע  "לא בסדר" בכל ההצבעות, למשל בעד תכנית הגירוש,  נגד משאל עם וכו'. 7 = נמנע  או לא נוכח בכל ההצבעות, או הצביע חצי מהזמן "בסדר" וחצי מהזמן "לא בסדר" , או לא היה כלל חבר כנסת באותו זמן (למשל: למעט עוזי לנדאו, אף מועמד של ישראל ביתנו לא היה חבר כנסת בתקופת המאבק על גוש קטיף).
האם נכון שרק מפלגות גדולות משפיעות?
 מבחינה עובדתית זה לא נכון, ההפך, חברי הכנסת החרוצים ביותר בכנסת הם דווקא מהמפלגות הקטנות (אפשר לבדוק את הנתונים הסטטיסטיים של הכנסת ).  כמעט כל המהלכים המדיניים מתרחשים כאשר חברי כנסת ממפלגות קטנות, מפעילים את חבריהם מהמפלגות הגדולות - ולא להפך.
תזכורת:
כולם לבדוק בסביבתם הקרובה - מי שלא מצביע - לשכנע אותו. מי שלא כל כך יודע למה להצביע -- לסייע לו להחליט. המפלגות שהן נגד מדינה פלשתינית הן איחוד לאומי-ט, בית יהודי-ב, ליכוד-ל )נוטה), ש"ס וכן (כרגע פחות טוב) ישראל ביתנו-ל.
 הרצאה במוצאי שבת  בקרית ארבע : חזון בוש לא, חזון דוד כן
ממקורות מוסמכים נודע, שצה"ל  נכנע ללחצים ואמור לפתוח את ציר ציון בקרית ארבע לערבים (הציר ע"י בית הכנסת חזון דוד).  בתגובה:
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להצטייד בלבוש חם.  פרטים בטל: 054-5866059 - גב' יהודית קצובר. תודה לנשים בירוק על הפצת מידע חשוב זה.
   
Update: Will Liberman bring rockets to Tel-Aviv??
Update: Liberman is NOT willing to commit to recommend Netanyahu as premier to President Peres. The problem is that Netanyahu's coalition would be made up of parties who oppose Palestinian state (Ichud Leumi, Mafdal, Shas) or at least tend against it (Likud and Yisrael Beytenu itself). In contrast, Livni's coalition would be made up of those parties who have learned NOTHING from the past and are in favor of a Palestinian state which would shoot rockets at all of us. 
If Liberman is not willing to give a public promise about this crucial point (and also to clarify his own personal position re Palestinian state as opposed to his party's position which is against Palestinian state) it becomes important to prefer a party which is committed politically to the no-Palestinian-state bloc, over Liberman's party. In other words, unless and until clarification has been received from Mr. Liberman (we'll update you if so) -- Ichud Leumi, Likud, Mafdal and Shas are "safer bets" than Liberman's Livni-oriented party.
Question: But Liberman isn't going to recommend Livni -- he's going to recommend HIMSELF to President Peres as premier! Answer: That might be more than enough to give Peres an excuse to say, more MKs are recommending Livni than are recommending Netanyahu, so I'm going to give the premiership to Livni. Result: Palestinian state - rockets in Tel-Aviv, Jerusalem and Ben-Gurion airport.  
 
Update: How did the various parties vote about the Gush Katif disaster?
Answer: Ichud Leumi/Tet - 14 (excellent)
            Mafdal/Bet- 14 (excellent)
            Shas  - 12 (very good)
            Likud/Machal - 8.5 to 9 (medium) (depends if one counts the "good" but currently unrealistic candidates - Nos. 34 onward)
            Yahadut haTorah/Gimmel - 7.75 (only fair)
            Yisrael Beytenu/Lamed - undeterminable; current candidates were not MKs during that period
Details: The above Gush Katif scores are given on a 14-point scale because there were 7 votes about Gush Katif, as follows: Plan; Law - readings 1, 2 and 3; Budget, formation of Deportation Government, and Referendum. Each "good" vote on any issue (such as "against" Deportation plan, "for" referendum) earns 2 points. Not voting or abstaining counts as 1 point, and voting "with the bad guys" (favoring deportation plan, against referendum, etc.) earns 0 points. So, 7 points is neutral -- half way between Right and Left. True hardliners get 14 points. Omri Sharon (who fortunately is not a candidate) merited 0 points as did Meretz. If your party doesn't score high -- change to another! The above scores are of course averages for all realistic candidates in each party who were in the Knesset in the Gush Katif period.
 
Is it true that big parties get more done than small parties? 
No, actually in Israel the opposite is true. The big parties would like you to think otherwise, but actually, almost every single initiative, particularly regarding Eretz Yisrael, is led by a small party on the right or on the left – depending on whether it is a good initiative or a bad initiative. The small parties lead, the large parties weakly follow.
 
How to get good results on Election day:
Simply make sure to look around you and actively seek out people who don't know what to vote and people who don't intend to vote. Regard these people as your personal responsibility. Explain to them that to avoid rockets in their living room they should vote for one of the parties which is against Palestinian state: Ichud Leumi-Tet, Jewish Home (Mafdal)-Bet; Likud-Mahal (tends against), and Yisrael Beytenu-Lamed (currently a less good choice). 
 
Lecture in Kiryat Arba
 Reliable information indicates that the IDF plans on opening the Zion road to Arab traffic (the road next to Chazon David  synagogue ). The following Israelis were murdered on that road: Mordechai Lapid. Shalom Lapid.  Sarit Prigal. Yehezkel Muallem. David Cohen.  98% of Hevron  is in  Arab  hands with Jews not allowed to enter.   The 2% of Hevron that are  in  our hands they also want to open to Arab traffic??
Gather in  the CHAZON DAVID  synagogue this Motzei Shabat 7 February for a lecture!  8:30pm
 by:  RABBI RIMON, founder and Chairman of Job K atif , speaking on: The Gaza War and our hold on the Land of Israel . 
 Please dress warmly.  For particulars: Yehudit Katzover , wife of former mayor of Kiryat Arba  0545866059. Thanks to Women in Green for putting this out. 
 
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Thursday, February 05, 2009

Visit Rachel Imeinu. After reports of Rachel Imeinu crying for her children and protecting them in Gaza, let's continue to cry at her gravesite. Pls Fwd: Rachel's Children Reclamation Fdtn: Annual TuBShvat Seuda Monday February 9, 2009

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Yasher Koach to Evelyn Haies for her  continuous activism love and devotion to  Rachel Imeinu.  Many Tzedakos collect successfully large sums of monies with impressive fundraising campaigns for buses to Kever Rochel etc. using Racheil Imeinu legacy.

RCRF  Rachel's Children Reclamation Foundation has actually purchased property adjacent to Kever Rochel and is making it a living presence. 

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From: Evelyn <haze@rcn.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Subject: Rachel's Children Reclamation Fdtn: Annual TuBShvat Seuda Monday February 9, 2009
To:


PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL LISTS

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Rachel's Children Reclamation Foundation
60 West End Avenue, Bklyn NY 11235.718-648-2610
1 Derech Chaya Rachel, Rachel's Tomb Complex
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cordially invites
you to join us for our
                                        Annual TuBShvat Seuda
Monday February 9, 2009,  Buses 1PM from Israel Center
 to Beit Bnei Rachel, Rachel's Tomb Complex, Beis Lechem
Be part of the seuda and the initiation of our
        Partners in Learning Project
with Beit Orot Yeshiva students.

RSVP Evelyn Haies, Pres RCRF and Bnei Rachel Corp 054-224-2649

Partners in Learning will continue every Tuesday 1-3PM
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Fwd: February OUTPOST - Excellent Afsi Publication now ONLINE!

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Dear List, amv"sh

AFSI is the only Jewish mainstream organization that has a time tested loyal track record is speaking our for our entitlement of the Entire Land of Israel.  They have a wonderful publication OUTPOST that until now was distributed by USPS mail to its members.  Now you can read it online!

AFSI also runs the most fantastic tours to Israel.  I am a first hand witness having been on it's November tour. We got to see Judea and Samaria and other parts of Israel almost no one else gets to see including Israeli's, and a chance to meet and speak with the most authentic Zionists that Israel has to offer.  (and a Zionist is an authentic religious Jew in my BOOK). In our 10 day tour we not only toured Judea and Samaria and stayed in Jerusalem, but toured parts of the Golan, the Jordan Valley, drove tractors in the sand dunes in the Negev and got an overview of the political and military climate that no other tour provides.

All this is possible due to the many close ties Afsi has developed over the years. 

AFSIi was there in Gush Katif.  AFSI protested Olmert's visit to Washington DC and again this past year in Annapolis. 

Herb Zweibon, Helen Freedman and Charlotte must have VIP seats up in heaven.  That is my personal opinion.

AFSI recently hosted 2 phenomenol speakers at Safra Synagogue, Yisroel Danziger of Mishmeret Yesha and David Haivri from the Shomron.  These are authentic lovers of Eretz Yisroel that are actively engaged in changing the facts on the ground keeping the Land of Israel safe in Jewish hands.

So enjoy OUTPOST and support AFSI! 212-828-2424

Robin

PS: This is a nonpaid advertisement simply because AFSI truly deserves it and I wanted to express my appreciation towards them..



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From: afsi <afsi@rcn.com>
Date: Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Subject: February OUTPOST -- digital format
To: AFSI <afsi@rcn.com>


 

The February issue of OUTPOST is now available on our website: (or see attachment) http://www.afsi.org/OUTPOST/2009/Outpost_2009_02.pdf  

Featured in this issue:

1) LEAVE AND LOSEIsrael's leaders have learned nothing. By Herbert Zweibon

2) A VIEW FROM THE TARGET ZONEIt is a very ugly game of Iranian Roulette. By Haim Harari

3) GAZA STRATEGY: THE "TIME OUT" Israelis are nothing if not inventive … their new method is called "Hafsakah," or "Time-out." By David Isaac

4) CAN HILLARY BE IMPARTIAL IN THE MIDDLE EAST? … The problem is hardly limited to Saudi money… By Diana West

5) MACMILLAN'S LIBELOUS ENCYCLOPEDIA Next time your kids look up 'Zionism' in an encyclopedia, they may read that Israel is a racist state… By Brian Henry, Edward Alexander, Paul Bogdanor

6) WEST BANK STORY....To the tune of officer Krupke… By Ruth King
 

7) ABBAS=HAMAS REDUXIf one follows the Osloist road map, the outcome is another Gaza in Judea, Samaria and the Golan. By Ruth King

 

 

 


Friday, January 30, 2009

How Long Will You Refuse to Submit To G-d? Shmos 10:3? All for a pot of lentils? Likud, Shas, UTJ, MGH, Dov Hikind and Feiglin's Fatal Flaw

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Dear Influential Leaders of  Israeli and American Political Parties and Mainstream Jewish Organizations, amv"sh

(Many ideas I have included here were taken by Rabbi David Hollander z"l who passed away this past week at 95 a long time columnist of the Jewish Press.  Rabbi Hollander always defended, without compromise, the principles of Torah-true Judaism. These ideas come from one of his earliest articles for the Jewish Press published in February 5, 1960 edition, reprinted in this week Jewish Press)

Hashem is all powerful and not the Likud, Shas, UTJ,Democrats or Republicans.

Do we doubt Hashem's Word or His promise that when we abide by His Torah and keep His Mitvoth then Hashem will protect us and bring Peace, Prosperity and Blessings to the World? 

Likud!, Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah!, Young Israel!, OU!, Shas!, UTJ! Dov Hikind!, "How Long Will You Refuse to Submit to G-d?" !!!! Shemos 10:3

How can we blatantly scorn our G-d given birthright by showing a willingness to give away our birthright for a pot of lentils, no different than EISAV


What is the modern day pot of lentils? 

It's the promise of others to stop Hamas and Fatah from sending rockets our way.

To quote Rabbi David Hollander "People sometimes erect mountains of rationalizations for their actions, but when you look beneath the surface you find selfish interest."

It is my opinion that Shas and UTJ have a selfish interest called payback money to pay for their educational institutions and large families. Feiglin's selfish interest is that he wants all to unite under him, self promotion rather than to unite under a common Torah message.

Has MGH or Agudath Yisroel of America spoken out against Israeli or American Foreign Policy for a 2 State Solution. Until he is in power, has Feiglin mobilized caring Jews in America to speak out for our entitlement of Israel and against the roadmap or against the policies of the gov't of Israel'?

Rulings by the Gedoilim clearly have permitted giving away parts of  Eretz Yisroel cheapening the Holy Land in the eyes of hundreds of thousands of loyal followers making the Torah not relevant in our day. ..

I was at Manhigut's Yehudi'ts' fundraiser in Kew Garden Hills, Queens.  And that's all it was.  A fundraiser to get Moshe Feiglin to win the Likud primary.  He could have used the same opportunity to mobilize that open minded crowd to speak out forcefully for our exclusive entitlement of Eretz Yisroel. After all Jews of the Diaspora are no less entitled than Jews in Israel to the Holy Land. 

Perhaps Feiglin feels that he can't speak out forcefully since he doesn't have the immunity of a Knesset member.After all, he might be accused of sedition and put into jail and lose his chance in getting a Knesset seat. Dov Hikind has his seat in Congress to worry about.

Effectively who will challenge Likud, Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah, Shas, Young Israel, OU, Dov Hikind etc for disgracefully showing their willingness to sell out Israel for a temporary pot of lentils.

As a result Obama and the United States is now training Egypt with the most sophisticated military equipment and deploying thousands of troops on the Eastern Sinai Gaza border in order to deliver this pot of lentils to Israel.  There is a display of unity among the nations of the world to deliver this pot of lentils to Israel.

There are many chareidim that are subservient to UTJ and to SHAS.  They are in a slumber.   To quote Rabbi Hollander....  "To them comes Moshe Rabbeinu, our educator par excellance,  with his rebuke to them to tell the Nations, "Tell the truth, stop hiding behind fancy claims.  Call a spade a spade.  How long will you refuse to submit to G-d?".

 As for the typical Israeli, secular or religious, have faith in them and give them a choice to vote for authentic Torah.  Torah is universal. Yes it is in Hashem's hand and we must demonstrate our worthiness by voting for Him, for Hashem and the Torah platform.   Likud, Shas or UTJ are limited and are mere political parties in a corrupt political system.  Hashem on the other hand, does not sleep nor slumber the Guardian of Israel.

Yes, We do have much to fear when our country and people are not united behind the Torah platform.  Ichud Leumi had better change their slogan very quickly.  It is arrogant to assume that just because there is a few strong few that we have nothing to fear.  Who if not us carry the sins of the majority of our brothers and sisters within Israel and in the Diaspora that are dragging us off the cliff. Just remember what happened to our holy Gush Katif brothers and sisters that sang with ferver Al Tira Meyhem Ki Hashem Elokecha Imach (Don't fear them, i.e. those that wish to expel us, because G-d is with you)

SHAME, SHAME SHAME on Am Yisroel!  Yes it takes educating but I do not see that Moshe Feiglin is doing any real educating.  Rather I only saw lots of campaigning and he lost to Netanyahu.
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Yehoshua Friedman <friedy07@netvision.net.il> wrote:

Robin,

 

I agree that Netanyahu is center-left masquerading as right. I agree that there are leftist candidates in the Likud (Licouldn't). I agree that Ketzeleh and friends are wonderful people whom I would love to see run the country. What I don't see is how you prevent Dan Meridor (no. 17) from being in a high-level ministry. If we would all leave Likud and join NU and NU got 10 seats (I don't believe it), Livni or Barak would be PM. Would that help? Bibi is on record that he wants a coalition with either Kadima or Labor plus Shas. The long-range strategy is for Feiglin and EItam in the Likud (bad cop and good cop) to keep strengthening their positions and eventually lead. Then NU would come in and ask to have influence. This whole thing is in Hashem's hands. If Mitchell and Obama do a really obnoxious thing before the election, maybe the right could gain some positions at the expense of the left, but Bibi would still choose the above over NU even if NU got 15. The real way to solve the problem is to educate the next generation. It won't be solved in the next two weeks.

Is there any possibility of getting some hareidi votes besides Habad for NU at the expense of  UTJ?

 

Yehoshua Friedman


Dear RObin
 
I am sorry for my poor English but I hope you will understand my idea, anyway.
 
If we vote LIKUD [FOR FEIGLIN] it will help us to put the best 8 men -including FEIGLIN] in the LIKUD,[places 31-38 in the likud list] so they will prevent NETANYAHU from withdrawals. THEY WILL BE THE GUARDS OF ERETZ-YISRAEL IN THE LIKUD!!
 
shabbat shalom
 
kati
 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Ticker [mailto:faigerayzel@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:17 AM
To: do4israel
Subject: Fwd: Feiglin's Fatal Flaw

 

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Dear List, amv"sh

Paul Eidelberg brings some very strong points objecting to Feiglin being part of the Likud party. I too have the premonition that voting for Feiglin or Shas (they too wish to join with Likud) under Likud is a vote for Netanyahu and Netanyahu's politics.  This mean a willingness to negotiate and establish a Palestinian State.  A vote for Feiglin is a vote for Netanyahu and is no way a vote for Feiglin. It seems to me that in the Likud party, Feiglin is an outsider and has no real clout.

Netanyahu's rhetoric is nice but his voting patterns have been a betrayal of our Covenant with Hashem, shows a disregard of the special sanctity the Jewish people have with the Land of Israel and a betrayal to the Jewish Nation. 

This goes way beyond politics.  A vote for Likud is not consistent with a Torah platform.  Only a vote for NU is.

A vote for NU is a vote for what Feiglin really believes in.

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From: <eidelberg@foundation1.org>
Date: Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:48 AM
Subject: Feiglin's Fatal Flaw
To: list@foundation1.org

Feiglin's Fatal Flaw

 

Paul Eidelberg

 

Israel National News (INN) asked Moshe Feiglin, leader of the Likud's Jewish Leadership faction, to comment on Benjamin Netanyahu's latest remarks regarding a unity government.  Feiglin said, in part: "Our job is to make sure that within the [Likud] party faction, there are enough nationalist MKs who will prevent Netanyahu from carrying out dangerous moves [like supporting a Palestinian state]."  [The present writer will address this last remark later.]


In contrast, National Union party leader Yaakov "Ketzaleh" Katz said that the way to ensure that the Likud remains "nationalistically-oriented is by voting for a party to the right of it."  Moreover, "If the religious-Zionist voters who are now supporting the Likud would vote for the National Union, then many left-wing Likud candidates will not get into the Knesset - while the National Union could get 10 seats! We must not let Feiglin steal away national-religious votes for people like Dan Meridor … and others." [Katz might have added that Meridor may become Justice Minister if included in a Netanyahu cabinet.  This is tantamount to bringing Aharon Barak into the government!]

 

Now let us consider the central issue of the February 10 election.

 

1)     There is abundant evidence that Netanyahu supports a Palestinian state.  Hence, a vote for the Likud is a vote for an Arab state in Israel's heartland, Judea and Samaria.  The same may be said of Kadima.  But since Kadima's leader Tzipi Livni is to the left of Netanyahu, nationalists will prefer a Likud-led government.

2)     Nevertheless, voters should have certain facts in mind about the Netanyahu-Likud record on the territorial issue, specially the following:

           

a.      During his tenure as Israel's prime minister, Netanyahu failed to abrogate the Oslo or Israel-PLO Agreement even though his own office issued daily reports of the PLO's brazen violations of that agreement.

b.      In the Hebron Memorandum of January 30, 1997, Netanyahu surrendered 80 percent of Hebron to the Palestinian Authority (PA).

c.      In the Wye River Memorandum of October 23, 1998, he agreed, for starters, to surrender approximately 30 percent of Judea and Samaria to the PA.

d.      In 2002, that is, even after the Arafat Terror War broke out in September 2000, Netanyahu and his Likud colleagues (with the exception of Naomi Blumenthal) voted against MK Michael Kleiner's resolution to abrogate Oslo.

e.      As a cabinet minister in the Sharon government, and despite the warnings of Israel's highest defense and intelligence officials, Netanyahu voted for unilateral disengagement from Gaza (which, by the way, doesn't prevent him from boasting now and everywhere that he anticipated the dire consequences of that retreat).

f.        Of the Likud's 40 Knesset Members (two were former Israel B'Aliya MKs that joined the Likud), 23 voted for unilateral disengagement on October 26, 2005. 

           

3) In the January 2003 election, the Likud won by 38 seats to Labor's 19. This large plurality enabled PM Sharon to appoint more Likud MKs to his cabinet vis-à-vis MKs from parties to his right on the Palestinian state issue—parties such as National Union.

 

4) A comparable situation will occur in the February 2009 election.  Accordingly, voters who support Feiglin should think strategically: "Although Feiglin urges us to vote Likud, we don't want the Likud to win too large a Knesset plurality—as happened in the 2003 election—because that will allow Netanyahu to stack his cabinet with more Likud MKs vis-à-vis MKs from parties to his right."  

 

5) Therefore, if these "Feiglinites" vote for a party to the right of the Likud—say National Union—they would increase the number of Knesset seats won by that party.  Netanyahu may then have to include MKs from that party in a unity government.  The cabinet would then include NU opponents of a Palestinian state, bolstering "mavericks" from Netanyahu's own party.

 

6) Of course, given a unity government, Netanyahu could appoint enough Kadima (as well as Labor) MKs to his cabinet, to the possible exclusion of National Union.   However, this will depend on the number seats won by these and other parties—and this is speculative.  Besides, I have not forgotten Israeli Beiteinu, which may become the third largest party and complicate Netanyahu's ability to form a unity government supportive of a Palestinian state.

 

7) Speculation aside, there is a fatal flaw in Feiglin's position.  He claims that with more people voting Likud, the Likud will have more MKs opposed to a Palestinian state.  Perhaps, but this overlooks the fact that it will not be new Likud MKs supportive of Feiglin so much as incumbent Likud MKs that Netanyahu will appoint to his cabinet, and their track record on a Palestinian state is not encouraging.  Indeed, by luring more people to vote Likud, Feiglin will enable Netanyahu to appoint more Likud incumbents to the cabinet, hence more MKs who, like Meridor, do not oppose a Palestinian state.

 

This suggests that Feiglin's flaw may be nothing more than a case of tendentiousness, not to say self-promotion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Fwd: A Likud Profile.doc - More Likud Bashing. I wish it wasn't true



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <eidelberg@foundation1.org>
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:29 AM
Subject: A Likud Profile.doc
To: list@foundation1.org


A Likud Profile

 

Paul Eidelberg

 

 

The Likud has been consistent in one thing only:  the betrayal of its professed Zionist or nationalist principles.

 

Thus Begin, who yielded the Sinai and evacuated Yamit.

 

Thus Shamir, whose "peace plan" led to the recognition of the PLO at Madrid. 

 

Thus Netanyahu, who withdrew from Hebron and prepared the ground for a Palestinian state at Wye.

 

Thus Sharon, who adopted Labor's policy of "unilateral disengagement" from Gaza. 

 

Thus Olmert (of the Likud's offspring Kadima), who would withdraw from Judea and Samaria. 

 

            ● And once again Netanyahu, who will complete this record of perfidy should he form, as he promises, a national unity government with Labor and Kadima after the February 10, 2009 election.


The Likud Party has never possessed the will or the courage to rule in accordance with its professed principles.  I once called the Likud "the right wing of the Labor Party."  Netanyahu made this crystal clear when he said he would exclude rightwing parties should he form the next government.   What right-wing parties?  Clearly, parties opposed to a Palestinian state such as National Union.

 

Actually, Netanyahu has long misled the public about the true character of the Likud.  This he has been able to do because of Israel's system of multi-party cabinet government.  This grotesque system has allowed the Likud to pose as a rightwing party, when, in reality, it is a left-leaning party that has lured right-wingers to its cause, and that cause is nothing less than the burial of Zionism.

 

It is in this light that we should ponder Netanyahu's recruiting  Benny Begin and General Moshe Ya'alon into his party along with Dan Meridor—Meridor, who, if appointed Justice Minister, as rumored, will inject the leftwing ideology of Judge Aharon Barak into the next government.

 

Does any informed person need to be shown that Judge Barak was the foremost enemy of Zionism on the Supreme Court?

 

Suffice to say it was as President of the Supreme Court that Judge Barak ruled that Judea, Samaria, and Gaza constitute "belligerent occupied territory," a ruling that sanctioned the anti-Zionist policy of Likud chairman Ariel Sharon.  This perfidious ruling can be expected to govern Benjamin Netanyahu should he become Israel's next Prime Minister.

 

 

 


Fwd: הסיפור שלנו Our Story - Powerpoint Presentation to promote Yesha and Eli Hertz Who is Humiliating Whom www.mythsandfacts.org ו

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This will be posted on www.shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pesach <pashra@netvision.net.il>
Date: 2009/1/28
Subject: הסיפור שלנו
To: Pesach <pashra@netvision.net.il>

Please open attached power point presentation in Hebrew from the Yesha Council and their New Land of Israel Campaign!

Check out http://www.jstory.co.il/

New Land of Israel Campaign Earns Praise

Also read this never thought about answer to those that feel sorry for the Palestinians humiliation and harassment at checkpoints.  We have been made to feel so guilty, that Condeleeza Rice succeeded in getting the government of Israel to close many checkpoints in Judea and Samaria in order to enhance freedom of movement for the Palestinians.


Whom is Humiliating Whom by Eli Hertz - a Must Read!


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eli E. Hertz <today@mythsandfacts.org>
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:08 AM
Subject: "Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?" - CBS News, January 25, 2009
To: faigerayzel@gmail.com




Myths and Facts

"Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?"
CBS News, January 25, 2009

Bob Simon:
"Palestinians ... when they want to travel from one town to another, they have to submit to humiliating delays at checkpoints and roadblocks. There are more than 600 of them on the West Bank."

Bob: Who is Humiliating Whom?

January 27, 2009 | Eli E. Hertz

Bob, you say Palestinian Arabs feel humiliated and harassed when Israeli authorities search them and their belongings; when they are prevented from traveling freely because of checkpoints, roadblocks, closures and curfews. You say they feel "corralled."

Bob, in Israel, every Israeli is searched numerous times during the course of a single day. Israelis are asked to open their bags and purses for inspection. In most cases, they are subjected to body searches with a metal detector every time they enter a bank or a post office, pick up a bottle of milk at the supermarket, enter a mall or train station, or visit a hospital or medical clinic. Young Israeli men and women are physically frisked in search of suicide belts before they enter crowded nightclubs.

As a matter of routine, Israelis' car trunks are searched every time they enter a well-trafficked parking lot. Daily, their cars pass through roadblocks that cause massive traffic jams when security forces are in hot pursuit of suicide bombers believed to have entered Israel.

Israelis are searched not only when they go out for a cup of coffee or a slice of pizza, but also when they go to the movies or a concert, where the term "dressed to kill" has an entirely different meaning.

These ordinary daily humiliations now extend to similar searches when Israelis go to weddings or Bar Mitzvahs. No one abroad talks about the humiliation Jews in Israel are subjected to, having to write at the bottom of wedding invitations and other life cycle events, "The site will be secured [by armed guards]" - to ensure relatives and friends will attend and share their joyous occasion.

One out of four Israeli children, ages 11 to 15, fear for their lives. One out of three report they fear for the lives of their family members, and more than a third report they have changed their patterns of travel and social lives due to security concerns.

Bob, these ubiquitous security checks do not exist in Arab cities and towns in Israel (or, for that matter, in Judea and Samaria) because those places are not and never have been targets of Palestinian terrorism. In fact, the average Israeli is "humiliated and harassed" by being searched far more times a day than the average Palestinian. Not one human rights group, nor you, has so much as noted this massive intrusion into the rights of privacy and person imposed on Israelis.

To date, no one protests the fact that, since the 1970s, Jewish schoolchildren in Israel are surrounded by perimeter fences, with armed guards at the schoolyard gates, as if their schools were the domiciles of Mafiosi.

Not one Arab village in Israel or the Territories has a perimeter fence around it. Guards are not required at Arabic shops, cafes, restaurants, movie theaters, wedding halls or schools - either in Israel or in the Territories. Palestinians also do not need armed guards to accompany every school trip, youth movement hike or campout. They are not targets of terrorism.

Countless Israelis in sensitive areas within the Green Line - not only in the Territories, but also in Jewish towns, villages and bedroom suburbs - are "ghettoized" behind high fences.

Many Israeli motorists avoid major arteries that pass through Arab areas of Israel, while Arab citizens and Palestinians from the Territories continue to enter Jewish cities and go about their business without peril. Israelis are told, in effect, to disguise themselves when traveling abroad - not to speak Hebrew in public and not to wear garments that reveal their Jewish-Israeli origins. Even Israel's national airline - El Al - has been forced to remove its logo from the tails of its aircraft at certain airports, out of concern for the safety of its passengers. This followed several attempts to down Israeli civilian aircraft with missiles. On the other hand, Arabs who frequent Jewish cities and towns in Israel wear their traditional Arab headgear without fear of being attacked or harassed.

Bob, all this begs the question: Who are the victims and who are the victimizers? Who are the ones being harassed and humiliated? Palestinian Arabs or Israelis?

www.mythsandfacts.org


Fwd: הסיפור שלנו Our Story - Powerpoint Presentation to promote Yesha and Eli Hertz Who is Humiliating Whom www.mythsandfacts.org ו

bs"d

This will be posted on www.shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pesach <pashra@netvision.net.il>
Date: 2009/1/28
Subject: הסיפור שלנו
To: Pesach <pashra@netvision.net.il>


Attachment to this email is a great powerpoint presentation in Hebrew from the Yesha Council and their New Land of Israel Campaign!

Check out http://www.jstory.co.il/

New Land of Israel Campaign Earns Praise

Also read this never thought about answer to those that feel sorry for the Palestinians humiliation and harassment at checkpoints.  We have been made to feel so guilty, that Condeleeza Rice succeeded in getting the government of Israel to close many checkpoints in Judea and Samaria in order to enhance freedom of movement for the Palestinians.


Whom is Humiliating Whom by Eli Hertz - a Must Read!


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eli E. Hertz <today@mythsandfacts.org>
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:08 AM
Subject: "Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?" - CBS News, January 25, 2009
To: faigerayzel@gmail.com




Myths and Facts

"Time Running Out For A Two-State Solution?"
CBS News, January 25, 2009

Bob Simon:
"Palestinians ... when they want to travel from one town to another, they have to submit to humiliating delays at checkpoints and roadblocks. There are more than 600 of them on the West Bank."

Bob: Who is Humiliating Whom?

January 27, 2009 | Eli E. Hertz

Bob, you say Palestinian Arabs feel humiliated and harassed when Israeli authorities search them and their belongings; when they are prevented from traveling freely because of checkpoints, roadblocks, closures and curfews. You say they feel "corralled."

Bob, in Israel, every Israeli is searched numerous times during the course of a single day. Israelis are asked to open their bags and purses for inspection. In most cases, they are subjected to body searches with a metal detector every time they enter a bank or a post office, pick up a bottle of milk at the supermarket, enter a mall or train station, or visit a hospital or medical clinic. Young Israeli men and women are physically frisked in search of suicide belts before they enter crowded nightclubs.

As a matter of routine, Israelis' car trunks are searched every time they enter a well-trafficked parking lot. Daily, their cars pass through roadblocks that cause massive traffic jams when security forces are in hot pursuit of suicide bombers believed to have entered Israel.

Israelis are searched not only when they go out for a cup of coffee or a slice of pizza, but also when they go to the movies or a concert, where the term "dressed to kill" has an entirely different meaning.

These ordinary daily humiliations now extend to similar searches when Israelis go to weddings or Bar Mitzvahs. No one abroad talks about the humiliation Jews in Israel are subjected to, having to write at the bottom of wedding invitations and other life cycle events, "The site will be secured [by armed guards]" - to ensure relatives and friends will attend and share their joyous occasion.

One out of four Israeli children, ages 11 to 15, fear for their lives. One out of three report they fear for the lives of their family members, and more than a third report they have changed their patterns of travel and social lives due to security concerns.

Bob, these ubiquitous security checks do not exist in Arab cities and towns in Israel (or, for that matter, in Judea and Samaria) because those places are not and never have been targets of Palestinian terrorism. In fact, the average Israeli is "humiliated and harassed" by being searched far more times a day than the average Palestinian. Not one human rights group, nor you, has so much as noted this massive intrusion into the rights of privacy and person imposed on Israelis.

To date, no one protests the fact that, since the 1970s, Jewish schoolchildren in Israel are surrounded by perimeter fences, with armed guards at the schoolyard gates, as if their schools were the domiciles of Mafiosi.

Not one Arab village in Israel or the Territories has a perimeter fence around it. Guards are not required at Arabic shops, cafes, restaurants, movie theaters, wedding halls or schools - either in Israel or in the Territories. Palestinians also do not need armed guards to accompany every school trip, youth movement hike or campout. They are not targets of terrorism.

Countless Israelis in sensitive areas within the Green Line - not only in the Territories, but also in Jewish towns, villages and bedroom suburbs - are "ghettoized" behind high fences.

Many Israeli motorists avoid major arteries that pass through Arab areas of Israel, while Arab citizens and Palestinians from the Territories continue to enter Jewish cities and go about their business without peril. Israelis are told, in effect, to disguise themselves when traveling abroad - not to speak Hebrew in public and not to wear garments that reveal their Jewish-Israeli origins. Even Israel's national airline - El Al - has been forced to remove its logo from the tails of its aircraft at certain airports, out of concern for the safety of its passengers. This followed several attempts to down Israeli civilian aircraft with missiles. On the other hand, Arabs who frequent Jewish cities and towns in Israel wear their traditional Arab headgear without fear of being attacked or harassed.

Bob, all this begs the question: Who are the victims and who are the victimizers? Who are the ones being harassed and humiliated? Palestinian Arabs or Israelis?

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Please forward to the Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah. Why the 3 Oaths no longer apply. comments from Chaya Witkin and others

bs"d

Shalom Robin,

I just clicked into your blog and started reading it.
You wrote (in the article Clarification for Congressmen: Israel Wants a Palestinian State but do the Jews or do Bible believers? Mishpacha Magazine "Dear Mr. President" by Rabbi Moshe Grylak Editor in Chief):  "those antizionists that justify their existence based on the 3 oaths actually themselves go against the 3 oaths."
 
It isn't clear if you mean the "3 oaths" that are upon the world: 
   - one is that Am Yisrael shouldn't rebel against the nations of the world,
   - another is that Am Yisrael shouldn't go back to Eretz Yisrael and raise a state "b'choma (as a wall e.g. with force)",
  - and the third - that the goyim shouldn't oppress us "too much".
 
The Shoah is considered by many Gedolei hador to have been "too much".  Being so, the 3 OATHS HAVE BEEN BROKEN BY THE GOYIM, SO AM YISRAEL CAN GO BACK TO ERETZ YISRAEL "B'KOACH (with force)" BECAUSE the Oaths HAVE BEEN BROKEN ALREADY.  The Oaths do NOT exist anymore.
 
In short, the 3 oaths no longer apply because the GOYIM broke the Agreement of the 3 Oaths, so that these Oaths haven't applied for over 60 years since the Shoah.  All this is agreed to also by Rav Meir Kahane, and can be read in great detail in his book "Ohr HaRayon" (in Hebrew - Chapter 26 "Shilosha Hashavuot")

Dear Chaya, amv"sh

Excellent!  Please let me expand on what you wrote addressing oaths one and two and to elaborate on oath three: The points raised in this shemittahrediscovered post 
are further proofs that the 3 oaths do no apply in delegitimatizing the State of Israel.  Here are some points that I believe were sent to me by Joe Gemeiner,Toronto.

* As clear as the sun shines in the morning, Israel from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River was given to the Jewish people world wide in 3 legally- binding international treaties - the 1920 San Remo Conference treaty, the  Mandate for Palestine1922,  and The British American covenant regarding Palestine 1924 -  all of which stated unambiguously that Palestine would be reconstituted as a "National homeland for the Jewish people worldwide" based on the recognition of the " Jewish historical ties to that land." Even for the ethically deaf and blind world it's a pretty simple mission to understand.