Friday, June 22, 2012

News that is fit to print even when your advertising doesn't like it! Too bad. Let them take their business elsewhere.

bs"d

Please see attachments:

Praise for Mohammed on Synagogue WallsVandals sprayed praise for Mohammed on the walls of a synagogue in the village of Maor. 

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Contact: Helen Freedman, Executive Director
June 21, 2012
  
     AMERICANS FOR A SAFE ISRAEL/AFSI has written often about the indignities suffered by Jews at Israel's holy sites. The AFSI Chizuk group has visited the Temple Mount many times, escorted by Rabbi Richman of the Temple Mount Institute, and we are always subjected to indignities. I, personally, was detained by the police a number of years ago because I had a prayer book in my possession.
     Below is a report from Arutz Sheva about the latest outrage at the Temple Mount and MK Dr.Aryeh Eldad's call for an end to Muslim Occupation of the Mount.
     Below that is a letter I wrote to the Jewish Press in response to an article by Michael Freund on the same subject. My letter covers a small sampling of Jewish holy sites that have been given away to the Arabs by the Israeli government, or which are in danger of being lost to Jews. The letter was published in the June 22, 2012 issue of The Jewish Press. Your comments are welcome.

1. MK: End Muslim Occupation on Temple Mount
by Maayana Miskin
MK Aryeh Eldad (Ichud Leumi) called Thursday to end Muslim control over visits to the Temple Mount.
 
"The time has come to end the occupation," he declared in a letter to Minister of the Interior Yitzchak Aharonovitch. "The Muslim occupation that occurred 1,300 years ago, and is still in effect on the Temple Mount, of course."
 
Eldad was angered by the arrest of a Jewish visitor to the Temple Mount on Thursday morning, and the police's decision to ban Rabbi Yisrael Ariel, who heads the Temple Mount institute, from visiting the holy site.
 
"This is an unacceptable escalation of the affront to freedom of worship in Israel, and another step toward abandoning the Jewish people's holiest place to the Arab enemy and the Waqf," he charged.
 
Rabbi Yehuda Glick said that Rabbi Ariel had been refused entrance to the Temple Mount on Wednesday as he attempted to ascend in honor of Rosh Chodesh, the beginning of the next Jewish month. Police told Rabbi Ariel that he was permanently banned, and would not say why, Rabbi Glick said.
 
The Jewish man arrested Thursday morning was detained after quoting to his companions from the Mishnah, Rabbi Glick added. Jews are forbidden to pray on the Temple Mount, but are normally allowed to speak.
 
Also Thursday, a Jewish visitor to the Temple Mount complained that Islamic Waqf officials had ordered him to remove his kippah because it offended them.
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Jewish Holy Sites

Michael Freund's June 15 column, "Take Back the Holy Sites," touched a deep chord in me, since my AFSI Chizuk mission was in the ancient synagogue in Naaran in April of this year. We had stopped in the Jordan Valley, close to the area where Joshua crossed into Jericho, and then drove into a beautiful nature preserve. We walked through bountiful banana fields in order to reach the beautiful synagogue. We were overwhelmed by the setting, the mosaic floor, parts of which were still intact, the beautiful pillars, and the spirituality of the holy place. We were escorted there by a group of soldiers, many of whom joined in the Minchah prayers that were said at the site.

You can imagine our distress when we read about the desecration of the synagogue.
We felt that same distress when we read about the destruction of Joseph's tomb in Shechem by marauding Arabs, immediately after the holy place had been turned over to the Arabs for "protection." Kever Yosef had been one of our regular visiting sites on our AFSI Chizuk missions. The last time we were able to go there, it was only at midnight, on a specially arranged bus, with military escort.

The Temple Mount in Jerusalem is another holy place on every AFSI Chizuk itinerary. The shameful, humiliating treatment we receive when we arrive there, escorted by Rabbi Chaim Richman, is disgraceful. But we usually manage to ascend the Mount, followed by Arab Waqf members who walk closely behind, checking to see that we don't move our lips in prayer. Israeli police follow us also, to reinforce the Waqf's demands.

At the Cave of the Patriarchs, in Hebron, we must also usually suffer the indignity of having most of the rooms closed to Jews throughout the year. Jews pray in an open courtyard, covered with a tarpaulin that is fails to keep out cold, heat, rain and snow. We will be visiting this November 10 to commemorate Abraham's purchase of the tomb for his wife, Sarah. On this special Shabbat, Parashat Chayei Sarah, the cave is entirely open to Jews. How tragic it is that in the Jewish land of Israel, Jews suffer so much intolerance and degradation when it comes to our holy sites.

Freund is absolutely right. Israel must take back sovereignty over its holy sites.

Helen Freedman
Executive Director Americans for a Safe Israel/AFSI
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--- Original Message ----- From: Jacques Gauthier
To: 'Renanah Goldhar'
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:36 PM
Subject: FW: Jerusalem Conference PR

Jacques P. Gauthier, Ph.D.
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Hello Religious and Community Leaders, and Friends,

Please see:

a) press coverage of Dr. Gauthier's recent conference in Jerusalem on
Jerusalem - see two links below, and

b) the petition by Howard Grief, on Israel's land rights under international
law - see attachment.

Thank you!

Joe and Renanah Gemeiner

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Email: jgauthier@gauthierassociates.on.ca
http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=273912
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/insideisrael/2012/June/Expert-Gives-Proof-of-Jewish-Sovereignty-over-Jerusalem/
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Journalists:  Please do some investigative reporting!  Indeed it is very worrisome and confusing why all of a sudden Ketzeleh and Rabbi Melamed are encouraging the settlers to not protest in any significant way.    Daisy Stern of Hebron is Barry Chamish's source.  Please check out what they are reporting!  "Daisy Stern" <daisystern1@gmail.com>, "Barry Chamish" <chamish@netvision.net.il>, 

Barry Chamish writes:
Ketzaleh and Rabbi Melamed were the main purchasers and builders of the piece of real estate named Givat Ha'Ulpana, see first of all their bravado after hearing about the plans to use brutality against the residents, see how right away they said ' no violence', how Ketzaleh described the savage attackers as the residents' brothers, and then observe how they immediately folded. See how the Yesha Council, and Zambish himself, are directly involved in the Givat Ha'Ulpana situation, and how once again the residents trust him completely, even coming to his defense; naivete knows no bounds.  What's going ON???????  This is very strange.  Also please rewatch the Miraglim series.  

Miraglim 1  9:39 minutes

Miraglim 2  9:52 minutes

Miraglim 3  9:53 minutes

Miraglim 4 4m 9:03 minutes

According to this documentary The following Yesha Council members deceived the public and acted as if they were the leaders of the struggle when in fact they collaborated with the Police who were then able to control the masses into effectively and methodically implementing the expulsion.   

Among the Members of the Yesha council who were Traitors were 

Zambish - Ze'ev Chever, 
Pinchus Wallerstein, 
Bentzi Lieberman and
 Rafi Ben Saad. 

Among the Rabbanim who collaborated with the Police in the expulsion were

Rabbi Shlomo Aviner
Rav Druckman
Rav Zviki Bar Chai
Rabbi Mordechai Alon
Rabbi Yaakov Gross
Rabbi Zvi Kostoner

Here are the links on Youtube or just search Miraglim 1-4





More on this topic:  Check all these articles out on Arutz 7. I am unable to copy the links easily. I am having an issue with copying text with links as the links are not copied.  I need to manually do it. Just go on the first link and the other links on Arutz7 will be accessible via the article. 

'Ulpana Agreement Benefits Settlement Enterprise
Hershkowitz Happy with Agreement on Ulpana
Land Pioneer to Ulpana: Get it in Writing
Ulpana Residents, Government Sign Agreement
Bet El's Ulpana Neighborhood: The Background & Facts
Rav Melamed: No Solution is Perfect
Mosque Damaged in Suspected 'Price Tag' Attack
'Mini Yom Kippur' as Jews Fast, Pray for Ulpana
Ulpana: State Seeks More Time
Beit El Rabbi: Some Fights Can't be Won

Rav Melamed: No Solution is Perfect
Elkin: Legal Obstacle to Beit El Building � Solved
�Mini Yom Kippur� as Jews Fast, Pray for Ulpana
Bet El�s Ulpana Hill: Outrage and a Sane Plan of Action
Ulpana: State Seeks More Time
Beit El Rabbi: Some Fights Can�t be Won
Report: Police Gearing Up for Major Ulpana Assault
Ulpana Prepares to Fight Expulsion � Pictures
Ketzaleh: No Violence, We'll Say 'Shema Yisrael'
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/242764#.T-IKbVLO6So
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/242757#.T-IK9VLO6So

Now to put you in a better mood after reading the above 

Mi LaHashem Elai  Miami Boys Choir Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4xNhifnCL0


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Posted by at 2 comments:

Re: Journalists, please be truthful. Does advertising play or does not play a part in generating the news? Am I spitefully paranoid as Bill Narvey suggests?

bs"d

Dear Bill,

Thanks for your comments.  They were most welcome. 

Dear Journalists amv"sh

My first hand experience has proven to me that PR and Advertising go hand in hand. If we want to influence a paper to put in a certain article the best way to do so is to purchase advertising. 

Look, I understand the Newspapers need money.

 Yet, are checks and balances in place to ensure that the way the money comes in from advertising has no influence on the editorial content?  

Dear Journalists,  I can't believe Bill Narvey is so very naive.  Please relieve him of his ignorance and email him that what I know to be true first hand is common practice with religious Jewish papers and Jewish programming on radio.  Am I spitefully paranoid or have I touched a nerve of truth?  

 Bill Narvey writes "It is highly doubtful an advertiser with a political agenda will place many, if any  ads in a media outlet that does not share its views, with the idea of influencing that media outlet to change their views to accord with the advertiser....They would buy shares in a particular media or throw money at it in a way that maximized the chances that they could ensure that media outlet stayed on the message that the party seeking influence wanted."

My comment to Bill:
Unfortunately, advertisers with political agendas do place ads in such papers.  They will also try to influence in the other ways you suggested though it was not quite clear to me what you meant by "throw money".  Please elaborate.    Thanks.  Robin

PS:  We are looking for financial backers to back a paper that does not rely on advertising for day to day operations. 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Bill Narvey <wpnarvey@shaw.ca> wrote:

Robin,

 

I really don't know what to make of your reaction to Macy's broadcast mail out under the heading RE: II's Promotion of Ronald Lauder's Pro-2-State WJC Ad.

 

I do sense some spiteful paranoia in your thinking.

 

I think what you are saying is that any print media publication will be influenced to the point of view of their advertisers, especially those advertisers who place more and more ads.  In other words, money talks and the media can be influenced by an advertiser that has a hard core political agenda in mind.

 

I disagree. 

 

Businesses or organizations choose to place their ads in particular media for a number of factors such as, the particular media's political leanings, distribution size,  their ad needs to reach a particular segment of the population that has greater interests in specific things which a particular media outlet caters to, like local communities, sports, family, education, religion etc. and for other reasons as well.

 

Advertisers if they have enough money to purchase influence with a particular media,  would not choose such an indirect way of doing so, like placing ads.  They would buy shares in a particular media or throw money at it in a way that maximized the chances that they could ensure that media outlet stayed on the message that the party seeking influence wanted.  

 

It is highly doubtful an advertiser with a political agenda will place many, if any  ads in a media outlet that does not share its views, with the idea of influencing that media outlet to change their views to accord with the advertiser.

 

Sorry Robin, but I don't think your views stand up to scrutiny.

 

Bill

 

From: Robin Ticker [mailto:faigerayzel@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:40 AM
To: Bill Narvey
Cc: Buddy Macy
Subject: Dear Bill, any comments to this post? Fwd: The Payoff! Et tu Arutz7? Et tu Jewish Voice? Et tu Jewish Press? Et tu Zev Brenner?Et tu 5 Towns Jewish Times? Anyone left out there? Did you sell your Jewish Voice? Sounds of Silence. No reports on the evi

 

bs"d

 

Bill, I'd appreciate your comments.  I am sure Buddy would as well. Thanks. Robin Ticker

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robin Ticker <faigerayzel@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM
Subject: The Payoff! Et tu Arutz7? Et tu Jewish Voice? Et tu Jewish Press? Et tu Zev Brenner?Et tu 5 Towns Jewish Times? Anyone left out there? Did you sell your Jewish Voice? Sounds of Silence. No reports on the evils of a 2 State Solution, ......
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bs"d

 

Dear Arutz7.  You, our most beloved, and others, our very dearest of  friends and true lovers of Eretz Yisroel,  being bought off by $$$? Who knows where this $$$ originated from.  Maybe Soros or EU? 

 

We are told.  Netanyahu doesn't really believe in the 2 State Solution.  Ronald Lauder doesn't believe in a 2 State Solution.  They are master politicians who have to say what they say for PR purposes. They are interested in enhancing their Public Opinion image but they are not stupid. 

 

Bill Narvey <wpnarvey@shaw.ca> wrote:

Lauder is not worth getting worked up about

 

Why get worked up over Lauder's initiative on behalf of the World Jewish Congress to reach out to Abbas to implore him to come to the bargaining table?  It's a nice gesture, but it won't mean a thing to Abbas and his Palestinian cadre.  

 

I suspect Lauder knows that, but has an ulterior motive.  He really wants to put front and center for all Americans to see that the WJC is pro peace via the 2 state solution.  It's a publicity  positive image stunt initiative for the WJC to play to the U.S. Jewish community, for the Obama administration and for Americans at large.

 

But whether or not Netanyahu or Lauder actually believe in a 2 State Solution, the left make sure that they must prove that they mean what they say. 

 

That's how your paper or radio show is being used.  A brilliant PR strategy campaign of the left. And they unlike us have very deep pockets.

 

 It starts with just one ad.  Then when they see a publisher can be bought off,  it continues and before we realize, choices of what to print is under their influence. Paid journalists will follow the direction of the publisher or risk being fired. Of course a journalist with strong convictions has the option of quitting and put his entire faith in G-d for his livelihood. 

 

In working with right wing media, the main goal is to neutralize any negative press against the Gov't of Israel  especially when the gov't of Israel implements a "publicity  positive image stunt initiative'' as Narvey suggests, like destroying HaUlpana. The Gov't of Israel doesn't really want to be anti Settler.  They just want to be perceived by the world as "Pro Peace".  

 

And the leftist world is demanding that they show proof that they are serious and not just playing a political game.

 

Re: the right wing media:  Let me review the rules of what you may or may not print once your are under "the influence".  This is of course speculative.  I would appreciate your input to get a clearer understanding.    Let me know if I am on target.  After all I am not a journalist and these are my observations. The following apply especially on front covers and back covers and all parts of the paper that get the most exposure. 

 

  • Never print anything critical of Netanyahu and the Government of Israel's policies.  We are paying you very good money so...If you have a very right wing audience, say nothing overt against a 2 State Solution.  You might sneak in some poll against the 2 State Solution to make your paper credible but don't make it very obvious or put it on the front page..  
  • Don't speak out against the NGO's like NIF,  leftist operatives within Israel, and don't give a voice to those who protested NIF marching in the Israel Parade.  If you have a Right wing base of readers, just leave this controversy out of the news altogether. When you can, take the side of the JCRC and Federation who is paying you good money and receive their funding by leftists. 
  • When dealing with a religious population, always talk about Unity and against Lashon Hara.  Therefore, in order to be unified we must never  speak against the leaders of the State of Israel publicly. We don't want to raise the level of antisemitism which you claim happens when we speak negatively against our own people.   You claim that talking against any Religious and Public leaders divides us and is Lashon Hara! This works wonders when you want to silence the opposition or want to Silence protest. If  your readership is sympathetic towards the settlers,  and your audience is, just be neutral and don't validate their ideology. Don't validate the Settlers struggle for our right to live in all parts of Eretz Yisroel.  If you must, only do so embedded in your paper. We allow you to portray them in a sympathetic and human light.  After all we don't want to lose your readership completely. We will leave the leftist papers who are totally under our control to demonize them.
  • Never print anything to suggest that the government of Israel is not as democratic as people believe.  That would destroy the argument that the gov't won in a democratic election and if you don't like their position, elect a different gov't.  However, if they are not really democratic it makes it much more difficult to elect a different gov't because they control the election process. Therefore no news about the Election fraud between Netanyahu and Feiglin and the fact that the numbers were fabricated in the last Primary..   
  • Don't display pictures of any destruction of outposts or families being thrown out of their homes in high profile spots.  It would only make the gov't of Israel look bad. It would generate too much sympathy for the settlers.  A little sympathy is ok to make you credible but you can not over do it. 
  • Don't let people know that the military rule under the Civil Administration orders under Barak won't afford the same civil rights to those living in Judea and Samaria as other  Israeli citizens. 
  • Don't let your readers to know that our 2nd ammendment right, the freedom of self defense and to protect oneself does not really apply in Judea and Samaria.  Even soldiers are not really allowed to shoot or use force when threatened because if they do they are subject to reprimand and possible demotion.
  • The more friendly pictures between the Rabbanim and the gov't officials the more trusting the public will be of the gov't of Israel's motives.
  • Have pictures of Rabbanim like Rav Steinsalz and influential politicians like Peres in pictures together especially on the front page so that it is perceived that  that the Rabbanim are sanctioning  the gov't policies like supporting a 2 State Solution. 
  •   It is ok to report positively about growth in Judea and Samaria and the latest building permits approved only when you have to counter any negative press about expulsions and when the gov't is destroying places like HaUlpana.  This card must be used sparingly. Sometimes there is no choice and you have to play your cards right. Make sure that people won't believe that the gov't is doing anything substantial to hurt the settlers and give your readers the impression that the gov't is really on the side of the Settlers..  
  • Don't report on the unofficial building freeze over the last few years in Judea and Samaria that has starved the settlements of much needed housing and services.  It would only take away the brownie points gained from the la test building approvals that were part of the deal to sweeten the destruction of the HaUlpana homes.Readers might come to the conclusion that these deals are as a result of desperation by the Settlers and this would make the gov't look bad.
  • Don't report how certain Yesha Council members betrayed the Gush Katif people by collaborating with the gov't and it seems the same thing is happening once again.
  • Definitely don't publish this or my next email to you.   Or else..  There are no shortages of media personnel who will sell their soul for a buck.   We are davka choosing you and not the others.  We are offering more to you than others because you risk losing your base of loyal readers, and we desperately want you to keep your audience in order to influence these readers to take a passive role. It would be stupid of us to want you to lose your base. Don't be too obvious in changing your orientation.     Our goal is merely to neutralize any negative press against us and the leftist policies. We want your audience to be passive and not actively engaged in protest.  We don't really expect you to outwardly support our agenda.  
  • Just follow our rules and you will be taken care of... 

 

 

CHVRA,  each and every one of you can take your paper and turn it into a weapon against a Palestinian State!  You can take it into a weapon and fight for God  Or you can take the money and be Silent  You can take the money and tell yourself you are a grasshopper in the scheme of things and your voice won't make any difference anyway.  You can hide the truth and take the money.  But will your children pay the consequences?  How will you answer them when they ask you "How come your were silent?" 

 

 

 

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Buddy Macy <vegibud@gmail.com> wrote:

One cannot determine from the World Jewish Congress advertisement, below, whether Arutz Sheva (Israel National News - INN) supports the position taken by Ron Lauder in his letter appearing in the ad. However, one knows for sure that INN has accepted compensation for an ad which contradicts the values and beliefs of most, if not all, of its readers and supporters!

 

Four of Israel's most esteemed Knesset Members: Moshe Ya'alon - Israel's Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Strategic Affairs and former Chief of Staff of the Israel Defense Forces; Dr. Arieh Eldad - Brig. Gen., Retired, who served as the chief medical officer and was the senior commander of the Israeli Defense Forces medical corps for 25 years and head of the burns unit at Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem during the height of the Intifada; Yuval Steinitz - Israel's Finance Minister and the former chairman of both the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee and the Knesset Subcommittee for Intelligence and Secret Services, and an active member of Peace Now before Oslo; and, Danny Danon - chairman of World Likud and Chair of the Knesset Committee for Aliya, Absorption and Diaspora Affairs, have all stated publicly that implementation of the two-state "solution" would result in the destruction of Israel.*

  

That Ron Lauder, an American citizen, has chosen to promote a policy which the above four respected and admired Knesset Members believe would lead to the demise of Israel, is more than curious. And, Arutz Sheva's acceptance of compensation for the promotion of Lauder's personal beliefs through his position at WJC, is more than questionable. For the sake of clarity and truth, I urge Israel National News to issue a public statement as to its official position regarding the two-state "solution."

 

Most sincerely,

 

Buddy Macy
973-256-3661

 

 

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Activist emails sent to my list  are L'Ilui Nishmat Yisrael ben David Aryeh ob"m (Izzy - Kaplan)  a great activist and lover of Eretz Yisroel, Am Yisroel and the Torah. Yehi Zichrono Baruch.

Most of these emails are posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com 

 

Personal emails to individuals will not be posted to my blog. 

 




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Sincerely,

Robin Ticker
Activist emails sent to my list  are L'Ilui Nishmat Yisrael ben David Aryeh ob"m (Izzy - Kaplan)  a great activist and lover of Eretz Yisroel, Am Yisroel and the Torah. Yehi Zichrono Baruch.

Most of these emails are posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com 

Personal emails to individuals will not be posted to my blog. 

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The Payoff! Et tu Arutz7? Et tu Jewish Voice? Et tu Jewish Press? Et tu Zev Brenner?Et tu 5 Towns Jewish Times? Anyone left out there? Did you sell your Jewish Voice? Sounds of Silence. No reports on the evils of a 2 State Solution, ......

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Dear Arutz7.  You, our most beloved, and others, our very dearest of  friends and true lovers of Eretz Yisroel,  being bought off by $$$? Who knows where this $$$ originated from.  Maybe Soros or EU? 

We are told.  Netanyahu doesn't really believe in the 2 State Solution.  Ronald Lauder doesn't believe in a 2 State Solution.  They are master politicians who have to say what they say for PR purposes. They are interested in enhancing their Public Opinion image but they are not stupid. 

Bill Narvey <wpnarvey@shaw.ca> wrote:
Lauder is not worth getting worked up about
 
Why get worked up over Lauder's initiative on behalf of the World Jewish Congress to reach out to Abbas to implore him to come to the bargaining table?  It's a nice gesture, but it won't mean a thing to Abbas and his Palestinian cadre.  
 
I suspect Lauder knows that, but has an ulterior motive.  He really wants to put front and center for all Americans to see that the WJC is pro peace via the 2 state solution.  It's a publicity  positive image stunt initiative for the WJC to play to the U.S. Jewish community, for the Obama administration and for Americans at large.

But whether or not Netanyahu or Lauder actually believe in a 2 State Solution, the left make sure that they must prove that they mean what they say. 

That's how your paper or radio show is being used.  A brilliant PR strategy campaign of the left. And they unlike us have very deep pockets.

 It starts with just one ad.  Then when they see a publisher can be bought off,  it continues and before we realize, choices of what to print is under their influence. Paid journalists will follow the direction of the publisher or risk being fired. Of course a journalist with strong convictions has the option of quitting and put his entire faith in G-d for his livelihood. 

In working with right wing media, the main goal is to neutralize any negative press against the Gov't of Israel  especially when the gov't of Israel implements a "publicity  positive image stunt initiative'' as Narvey suggests, like destroying HaUlpana. The Gov't of Israel doesn't really want to be anti Settler.  They just want to be perceived by the world as "Pro Peace".  

And the leftist world is demanding that they show proof that they are serious and not just playing a political game.

Re: the right wing media:  Let me review the rules of what you may or may not print once your are under "the influence".  This is of course speculative.  I would appreciate your input to get a clearer understanding.    Let me know if I am on target.  After all I am not a journalist and these are my observations. The following apply especially on front covers and back covers and all parts of the paper that get the most exposure. 

  • Never print anything critical of Netanyahu and the Government of Israel's policies.  We are paying you very good money so...If you have a very right wing audience, say nothing overt against a 2 State Solution.  You might sneak in some poll against the 2 State Solution to make your paper credible but don't make it very obvious or put it on the front page..  
  • Don't speak out against the NGO's like NIF,  leftist operatives within Israel, and don't give a voice to those who protested NIF marching in the Israel Parade.  If you have a Right wing base of readers, just leave this controversy out of the news altogether. When you can, take the side of the JCRC and Federation who is paying you good money and receive their funding by leftists. 
  • When dealing with a religious population, always talk about Unity and against Lashon Hara.  Therefore, in order to be unified we must never  speak against the leaders of the State of Israel publicly. We don't want to raise the level of antisemitism which you claim happens when we speak negatively against our own people.   You claim that talking against any Religious and Public leaders divides us and is Lashon Hara! This works wonders when you want to silence the opposition or want to Silence protest. If  your readership is sympathetic towards the settlers,  and your audience is, just be neutral and don't validate their ideology. Don't validate the Settlers struggle for our right to live in all parts of Eretz Yisroel.  If you must, only do so embedded in your paper. We allow you to portray them in a sympathetic and human light.  After all we don't want to lose your readership completely. We will leave the leftist papers who are totally under our control to demonize them.
  • Never print anything to suggest that the government of Israel is not as democratic as people believe.  That would destroy the argument that the gov't won in a democratic election and if you don't like their position, elect a different gov't.  However, if they are not really democratic it makes it much more difficult to elect a different gov't because they control the election process. Therefore no news about the Election fraud between Netanyahu and Feiglin and the fact that the numbers were fabricated in the last Primary..   
  • Don't display pictures of any destruction of outposts or families being thrown out of their homes in high profile spots.  It would only make the gov't of Israel look bad. It would generate too much sympathy for the settlers.  A little sympathy is ok to make you credible but you can not over do it. 
  • Don't let people know that the military rule under the Civil Administration orders under Barak won't afford the same civil rights to those living in Judea and Samaria as other  Israeli citizens. 
  • Don't let your readers to know that our 2nd ammendment right, the freedom of self defense and to protect oneself does not really apply in Judea and Samaria.  Even soldiers are not really allowed to shoot or use force when threatened because if they do they are subject to reprimand and possible demotion.
  • The more friendly pictures between the Rabbanim and the gov't officials the more trusting the public will be of the gov't of Israel's motives.
  • Have pictures of Rabbanim like Rav Steinsalz and influential politicians like Peres in pictures together especially on the front page so that it is perceived that  that the Rabbanim are sanctioning  the gov't policies like supporting a 2 State Solution. 
  •   It is ok to report positively about growth in Judea and Samaria and the latest building permits approved only when you have to counter any negative press about expulsions and when the gov't is destroying places like HaUlpana.  This card must be used sparingly. Sometimes there is no choice and you have to play your cards right. Make sure that people won't believe that the gov't is doing anything substantial to hurt the settlers and give your readers the impression that the gov't is really on the side of the Settlers..  
  • Don't report on the unofficial building freeze over the last few years in Judea and Samaria that has starved the settlements of much needed housing and services.  It would only take away the brownie points gained from the la test building approvals that were part of the deal to sweeten the destruction of the HaUlpana homes.Readers might come to the conclusion that these deals are as a result of desperation by the Settlers and this would make the gov't look bad.
  • Don't report how certain Yesha Council members betrayed the Gush Katif people by collaborating with the gov't and it seems the same thing is happening once again.
  • Definitely don't publish this or my next email to you.   Or else..  There are no shortages of media personnel who will sell their soul for a buck.   We are davka choosing you and not the others.  We are offering more to you than others because you risk losing your base of loyal readers, and we desperately want you to keep your audience in order to influence these readers to take a passive role. It would be stupid of us to want you to lose your base. Don't be too obvious in changing your orientation.     Our goal is merely to neutralize any negative press against us and the leftist policies. We want your audience to be passive and not actively engaged in protest.  We don't really expect you to outwardly support our agenda.  
  • Just follow our rules and you will be taken care of... 

 
CHVRA,  each and every one of you can take your paper and turn it into a weapon against a Palestinian State!  You can take it into a weapon and fight for God  Or you can take the money and be Silent  You can take the money and tell yourself you are a grasshopper in the scheme of things and your voice won't make any difference anyway.  You can hide the truth and take the money.  But will your children pay the consequences?  How will you answer them when they ask you "How come your were silent?" 




On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Buddy Macy <vegibud@gmail.com> wrote:
One cannot determine from the World Jewish Congress advertisement, below, whether Arutz Sheva (Israel National News - INN) supports the position taken by Ron Lauder in his letter appearing in the ad. However, one knows for sure that INN has accepted compensation for an ad which contradicts the values and beliefs of most, if not all, of its readers and supporters!

Four of Israel's most esteemed Knesset Members: Moshe Ya'alon - Israel's Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Strategic Affairs and former Chief of Staff of the Israel Defense Forces; Dr. Arieh Eldad - Brig. Gen., Retired, who served as the chief medical officer and was the senior commander of the Israeli Defense Forces medical corps for 25 years and head of the burns unit at Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem during the height of the Intifada; Yuval Steinitz - Israel's Finance Minister and the former chairman of both the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee and the Knesset Subcommittee for Intelligence and Secret Services, and an active member of Peace Now before Oslo; and, Danny Danon - chairman of World Likud and Chair of the Knesset Committee for Aliya, Absorption and Diaspora Affairs, have all stated publicly that implementation of the two-state "solution" would result in the destruction of Israel.*
  
That Ron Lauder, an American citizen, has chosen to promote a policy which the above four respected and admired Knesset Members believe would lead to the demise of Israel, is more than curious. And, Arutz Sheva's acceptance of compensation for the promotion of Lauder's personal beliefs through his position at WJC, is more than questionable. For the sake of clarity and truth, I urge Israel National News to issue a public statement as to its official position regarding the two-state "solution."

Most sincerely,

Buddy Macy
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Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Dear Knesset Members Why You and Manhigut Yehudit should leave Likud.... discussion cont featuring Prof. Paul Eidelberg..........


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Dear Knesset Members, amv"sh

Why YOU and Manhigut Yehudit should leave Likud. discussion cont......

My comments are in purple.

Shlomo Walfish of Manhigut Yehudit replied to my comments and said I was not realistic about starting a new party since "Other parties are NOT going to be mevatel themselves to join a new party not run by them and under their rabbis. And top Likud MKs are not leaving likud to join this fantasy party either"  Shlomo, perhaps it is not practical or realistic but that is exactly that is necessary.  "Ahava Sheino Teluya Badavar".  What will differentiate the generation prior to the coming of Moshiach is the concept of loving our fellow Jew that is not dependent on getting something back in return.   No wheeling and dealing since everyone is doing for the greater good.  There should be no other reason MK's should join this party.  

Everyone has leadership abilities especially each MK that has reached this level.  Each MK member in this new party should be assigned a leadership role in that area that Hashem has blessed him/her.  So if for example, MK Yaalon has a shining military career it should be utilized.  If another MK is an expert on delegating responsibility in an objective responsible and unbiased way so that all MK's respect his judgement he should be called upon to do so,   No wheeling and dealing.  Each and every MK has their Rabbanim and population to rally, bringing them on board to be emissaries for the entire world.  There is no point in competition with one another since there is plenty of work and leadership opportunities for everyone. There is enough to do in this world so that each and every individual is a true leader, a Kohen, and united we make a Kingdom of Priests and a holy Nation

You may be interested in this 2005 article of Prof. Paul Eidelberg which underlines how critical it is that we change the ruling party and with it expose and reform "institutionalized corruption".  This past election, the primary between Netanyahu and Feglin, there was voter fraud and Feiglin chose not to make it into a real issue.  I was very surprised. I thought it was a golden opportunity.   What's the point of voting if the results are fixed.  People would have been really incensed when they realized that the ballots were tampered with and the numbers fabricated. People vote because they believe their vote counts. He should have been yelling bloody murder. The following analysis seems to explain why Feiglin cannot speak openly and in vivid detail about Israel's inept and corrupt SYSTEM of government while wishing to stay in the LIkud. Is Feiglin interested in reforming the corrupt System? If not, then why not? Also, please read the latest article sent by Prof. Eidelberg entitled "Israel's Non-Existent Nationalist Camp and How to Create One: Part I" 

Feiglin's Gambit: A Critical Analysis*
 
(September 12, 2005)
 
Prof. Paul Eidelberg
 
*Based on an interview with Avi Hyman's "The Activist Hour," Arutz-7, Israel National Radio, September 11, 2005.
 
1. To avoid misunderstanding, let me first point out that I wrote one of the first papers on Jewish Leadership for Manhigut Yehudit.  I also supplied Manhigut Yehudit and Moshe Feiglin with several policy papers. In fact, Mr. Feiglin is reported as saying that he regards my book Jewish Statesmanship as his bible. 
 
a. But when he said in a Jerusalem Post interview, "No other party in the country has the kind of intellectualism and breadth of thought that Manhigut Yehudit has," he seems to have forgotten that the author of Jewish Statesmanship is the president of the Yamin Israel party.  Perhaps my curriculum vitae may prompt him to make a more modest assessment of Manhigut Yehudit.
b. In any event, if my book Jewish Statesmanship is Feiglin's bible, he has failed to emphasize the key principle of that book, namely this: The inherent defects of Israel's political and judicial institutions render Jewish leadership virtually impossible.  Feiglin's emphasis is on "Jewish identity."  But Jewish identity without a program for institutional reform is pious rhetoric.  Surely the religious parties have Jewish identity, but they also lack a program for institutional reform that will produce Jewish leadership.  If Feiglin has such a program, it is not in the forefront of his public pronouncements, and this places in question his party's understanding of what Jewish leadership requires in the dysfunctional State of Israel.
 
2.  The truth is, Feiglin has joined a party whose leader, Ariel Sharon, is a ruthless enemy of Jewish leadership.  By implanting Manhigut Yehudit as a faction of the Likud, and by urging people to register for the Likud, Feiglin aroused and magnified Likud consciousness among many voters in the 2003 election.  He thereby contributed—how much no one knows—to the Likud's winning 38 Knesset seats.  That total enabled Sharon to dominate the "nationalist" parties in his cabinet.  Which means that the Jewish leadership movement contributed to anti-Jewish leadership!
 
3.  If the Likud had won fewer seats, those seats would have gone to National Union and Mafdal and perhaps Herut—and this would have prevented Disengagement.  Remember, the present Sharon-Peres government was confirmed by the Knesset by a vote of 58 to 56.
 
4. Recently, Feiglin admitted it would take 20 years for Manhigut Yehudit to gain the leadership of the Likud.  Twenty years!  Say ten.  Long before that, Judea and Samaria and 250,000 Jews will suffer the same fate as Gush Katif—if the Likud remains in power.  The Likud guidelines, endorsed by Netanyahu and Landau, affirm the Oslo Agreement.  Indeed, the guidelines affirm the leftist projection of Israel as a state of all its citizens, which means the end of the Jewish state. 
 
5.  So, what good is having, say 3 Manhigut Yehudit people occupying the 38th, 39th, and 40th slots on the Likud list when that gives additional ministerial posts and power to the party bosses on the top of the Likud list: those lacking strong Jewish identity—those who adhere to the defeatist and suicidal policy of "land for peace"?
 
 
 
6. So long as Feiglin is in the Likud,
 
a,  What can he say about the 23 Likud MKs who campaigned against Disengagement but voted for the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gush Katif?—nothing!
b.  What can he say about Sharon, his buying and selling political appointments to get the Knesset to pass that ethnic cleansing bill?—nothing. 
c. What can he say about the need to change the parliamentary electoral system to prevent such corruption in the future?—nothing! 
d. What can he say about the corruption from having MKs as cabinet ministers—nothing! 
 
7. Do you know how cabinet ministers use their budgets to manipulate local governments?  Suppose the Minister of Interior or the Finance minister is a secularist.  Rest assured their allocations to these towns or cities for school construction or other concerns are going to depend on the political complexion of their mayors and their voters.  This means corruption.
 
8.  This follows from having MKs in the cabinet who are party leaders and have a partisan interest inn how funds, which they control, are divided among towns and cities.    
 
9.  Now, Feiglin must be aware of this.  But Feiglin tells his followers he wants to gain control of the premiership. That's the aim of most party leaders.  They know the prime minister is the primary source of power.   In fact, Israel has what is called "prime ministerial government"—a euphemism for a democratically elected dictatorship, as I have often pointed out.  We need to put an end to prime ministerial government. 
 
a. Do you know Ben-Gurion launched the 1956 Sinai War without consulting his cabinet?
b. Do you know Begin did not consult his cabinet before going to the Camp David Summit?
            c. Do you know that Rabin concluded the Oslo Agreement without consulting his cabinet? 
d. Do you know Ehud Barak signed the 1999 Sharm e-Sheikh agreement with Arafat without consulting his cabinet? 
e. And who does not know of Sharon's high-handed adoption of Labor's disengagement plan?  He consulted President Bush and dismissed two ministers to impose that plan on the cabinet.
 
10.  But why do we have this dictatorship of one man?  Has Feiglin told you?  Has he told you why the prime minister doesn't consult his cabinet, as is done by American presidents?  Allow me:  Israel's cabinet consists of rival parties.  The cabinet ministers are not the PM's advisers but his competitors; and if it helps their own parties, they will leak cabinet information to the media.  So what must we do?
 
a. We must exclude MKs from the cabinet.  We need a system of checks and balances, which is what we have in the Torah. 
b. We want responsible and accountable Jewish leadership—not just Jewish leadership— and when I read Feiglin's public statements, I see no program for obtaining a system of government conducive to Jewish leadership,
 
11.  In fact, he hinders that goal by dividing the nationalist camp.  By drawing good people into the Likud, a corrupt party, he prevents the formation of an Anti-Establishment Party that can unite all non-parliamentary nationalist groups. This alone can save Israel from its decadent political system.
 
a. This is not the dream of taking over the Likud in 10 or 20 years.   Because of widespread disillusionment with the Likud, National Union, and Mafdal, there will be more than 750,000 floating votes or 30 Knesset seats that can be won next year by an Anti-Establishment Party, provided it campaigns—not just against corruption—but against Institutionalized Corruption. 
b. My colleague Prof. Israel Hanukoglu, who was science adviser to the Netanyahu government—he and I are trying to organize such a party, a party that campaigns against the SYSTEM, a party distinguished from all other parties by its key objective: to transfer power from parties to the people. 
 
c. How? First, by making MKs individually elected by the people in constituency elections; second, by excluding MKs from the cabinet, a major source of corruption; third, by democratizing the method of appointing Supreme Court judges, whose rulings so often violate the abiding beliefs and values of the Jewish people.
 
12.  Feiglin refuses to discuss the option of developing such party.   He has trapped himself and lured others into the Likud and therefore cannot speak openly and in vivid detail about Israel's inept and corrupt SYSTEM of government.
 
13.  He says he doesn't want to be the leader of a small party, another Techiya which had 5 MKs back in the 80s.  To repeat, there are 30 Knesset seats available to a dynamic reform party.  Recall 1977, when the newly formed Democratic Movement for Change won 15 seats, and our situation today is far more critical.  But give me an independent party with 5 Knesset mandates I will show you how it can change the SYSTEM that has produced a dictator like Sharon, has resulted in the murder of more than 1,000 Jews, has led to the expulsion 10,000 Jews from their homes, and has produced more corruption than any other government in the developed world, including Italy.
 
14. Had Feiglin and Manhigut Yehudit formed a joint list with Herut in the 2003 election, this nationalist and religious combination have won at least two Knesset seats, and there would have been NO Disengagement!  As mentioned, the present Sharon-Peres government was confirmed by a 58 to 56 vote of the Knesset.  One may even doubt that this government would ever have been formed in the face of the vehement protests of the joint list I just mentioned. 
 
15. It's amazing how educated people—including professors and lawyers—are so ignorant about the subtle workings of Israel's political system, how they have been sucked into Feiglin's disastrous gambit.
 
16.  Just imagine what two MKs could do in one year.  They could go to every campus and expose the pernicious consequences of Proportional Representation and the system of voting for party slates instead individual candidates:
 
            a. They could show how wealthy persons abroad can buy a party by buying its party leader—thanks to voting for party slates—something that can't be done when citizens vote for individual candidates in geographic regions.  This is the story behind Sharon's rise to power.
            b. Our two MKs could show how 29 MKs hopped over to rival parties in the 1999 elections to gain safe seats—thanks to party slates.
            c. They would show how Labor bought two MKs from Tzomet, a right-wing party, for a Mitzubishi and a deputy ministerial post in order to pass Oslo II—thanks to party slates.
            .
17.  Why hasn't Moshe Feiglin publicized these disastrous consequences of Israel's parliamentary electoral system?  Of course, plenty other eminent Israelis have failed to heed the warning of Ben-Gurion, which I have spoken of countess times: that Proportional Representation fragments the nation, that it produces cabinets consisting of rival parties competing for bigger slices of the public treasury.  How can Feiglin engage in such criticism while he remains in the Likud? 
 
18. But suppose two MKs, having openly campaigned against the SYSTEM, proceeded to expose Institutionalized Corruption.  Suppose they did this on every public forum?  Suppose they also placed ads on the subject in every newspaper?  Suppose they organized a national conference on Institutionalized Corruption—a conference that would show how Israel's political and judicial elites, thanks to the SYSTEM, can ignore the people's will with impunity, as Sharon did after the 2003 elections, and as Chief Justice Aharon Barak did when he legalized Sharon's criminal policy.
 
19.  Instead of exposing and fighting the SYSTEM, Feiglin joined it, dignified it, and increased its power to undermine the very thing he holds most dear, Jewish leadership.   I urge him to get out of the Likud and help us form an Anti-Establishment Party that unites all non-parliamentary nationalist groups—a party that can capture the huge floating votes in the next election.  This is far more doable and certainly more noble than his dream of taking over of the Likud, a decadent party, most of whose MKs voted Yes to expelling Jews from their homes in Gush Katif.
 
20.  As for Yamin Israel, I'd rather not speak about my party, because this would sound like special pleading.  But I will say this:  we are Not a right-wing party.  We have a most democratic and yet Jewish program.   The Yamin stands for right or correct as opposed to wrong or incorrect; it is the right, the correct, party for Israel.
 
            a. There is no right-wing party in the Knesset; hence the distinction between "right" and "left" is obsolete.   Indeed, no party in the Knesset is worthy of the votes of Israel's citizens—not after the expulsion of Jews from Gush Katif and northern Samaria.     
b. The division today is between those who do and those who not identify with the Jewish heritage.  This real, existential issue in the 2003 election was whether Jews can be expelled from their homes. 
c. Is there a "right" and a "left" on this issue?  No, you are either right or wrong on this issue.  And every member of the Likud—even the 13 that voted against disengagement—is culpable, because they should have denounced their party as well their prime minister on every public forum. 
d. The expulsion of Jews from their homes was the greatest desecration of God's name; and since the Likud was primarily responsible, Manhigut Yehudit should leave that party, otherwise they are mere hypocrites.

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Israel's Non-Existent Nationalist Camp and How to Create One: Part I

Prof. Paul Eidelberg, President
Israel-America Renaissance Institute

The illustrious Rabbi Avraham Yitzhak Kook understood that Israel is divided between four major groups: (1) the religious who are Zionists; (2) the religious who are not Zionists; (3) the secular who are Zionists; and (4) the secular who are not Zionists.

From this one may reasonably conclude that Israel's "nationalist camp" is and always has been a fiction.  In fact, Israel's founding fathers were steeped in a contradiction. On the one hand, people like David Ben-Gurion were Zionists (hence "nationalists") on the one hand, but Marxists (hence "internationalists") on the other. Modern Israel was thus born in an oxymoron, and it has remained oxymoronic to this day.  

One manifestation of this may be seen in the Likud, which campaigns on the "right" and shifts to the "left" when in power. Another manifestation of this Shas and/or United Torah Judaism, which campaign on a Torah line but will then ally itself with a secular government committed to the Oslo policy of yielding Jewish land to Arabs in the of "peace," a fiction.

The oxymoronic nature of modern Israel was manifested by Likud leader PM Benjamin Netanyahu, who endorsed the creation of an Arab Palestinian state in Judea and Samaria. But this was also the sub rosa policy of Labor leader Yitzhak Rabin in the infamous Oslo or Israel-PLO Agreement of September 1993, which has been the cornerstone of every succeeding Israeli government regardless of which party or party leader or coalition has been at the helm. So all talk today of a nationalist camp must be taken with a grain of salt.

Nevertheless, the non-existence of a nationalist camp does not mean that a nationalist camp cannot be created. Unlike the universe, however, it cannot be created from nothing—we are mere mortals. So we have to employ existing stuff to create a nationalist camp. What stuff? Is there anything that exists which the four major groups defined by Rav Kook have in common that is more important than their differences? The only thing I can think of is LIFE. Thus, if Israel (God forbid) were invaded by Arabs, I think it's safe to say all Jews, regardless of their religious and other differences, would unite to repel the invaders.

But our problem is how to form a consensus of Jews when the threat mentioned above is not uppermost in mind? In  other words, is it possible to form a "nationalist camp" despite Rav Kook's four-fold division of the people living in Israel. I think so.

There are two values or concepts that compete for people's loyalties in Israel. One is democracy; the other is Torah—and here let us not succumb to the facile notion of commentators such as former Supreme Court President Aharon Barak that the two complement each other. Not because this is false, but because its truth comes from either ignorant or disingenuous minds.

I am therefore going regard Barak's notion as a "proposition, " hence as something that may be proven true or false, and I am going to take the positive position in order to promote the idea of a "nationalist camp." In fact, this idea has been elaborated in various books of mine, most recently in "The Theo-Political Foundations of American Exceptionalism: Today's Choice for the 'Almost Chosen' People." What makes America the "almost Chosen People" is this: America's basic ideas are rooted in the Bible of Israel, for as others have been more or less aware, America's foundational documents, the Declaration of Independence of 1776 and the Federal Constitution of 1787 manifest ideas traceable to the Hebraic Republic  of antiquity—ideas praised by Samuel Langdon and Ezra Stiles, the presidents, respectively, of Harvard and Yale  Universities in America's constitution-forming period.

Here I have only space to set forth a formula distilled from those two foundational documents. These two documents may rightly be understood as capable of teaching us how to make Israel more democratic by means of Torah principles, and how to make Israel more Torah oriented by means of democratic principles.

Strange as it may seem, this is the only way to create a nationalist camp in Israel.

(To be continued)
  
 
   
    
 




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In response to Manhigut Yehudit who still insists on staying with Likud in response to Prof. Eidelberg

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Shmuel Sacket of Manhigut Yehudit (also via Shlomo Walfish, a Manhigut Yehudit activist who posted Shmuel's comment on my blog)  responds to the following post on  Shemittahrediscovered: 


Prof. Eidelberg said 

"First and foremost, Mr. Feiglin—may he live and be well—must be persuaded to leave the Likud and join with other to establish a United Front on behalf of Eretz Yisroel. So long as Feiglin hitches his star to the Likud, he divides the nationalist camp and undermines his own Jewish principles.

Second, a concerted effort must be made to unite the nationalist camp behind a new and comprehensive program, one that includes a youth movement that vehemently calls for:

1) Jewish sovereignty over Judea and Samaria, hence abrogation of Oslo;

(2) a Jewish Democratic Constitution with authentic institutional checks and balances, which requires (a) separation of the Legislative and Executive branches of government; (b) a unitary Executive elected by the people; (c) limitations on the powers of the Supreme Court;

(3) Reactivation and vitalization of the Foundations of Law act that makes Jewish law primus inter pares with other systems of law now affecting judicial rulings—hence, explicit rejection of the monstrous dictum "everything is justiciable," a dictum that violates not only democratic and Jewish principles, but the very concept of the rule of law."


Shmuel Sackett responds.  Please see my comments below in purple, a nice royal color (note not orange) Robin

From: Shmuel Sackett
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:34 PM
To:
Subject: RE: Some Priorities for a New Nationalist Camp by Prof. Paul Eidelberg

Short answer: Been there, done that.

Long answer: What the heck does a "NATIONALIST CAMP" mean?
Do you include the Haredim – who abstained from the Ulpana vote because as their MK Eichler said, "When is the last time the Dati Leumi helped the Haredim so why should we help them?
Shas – who supported Oslo?
Lieberman – who is pro Palestinian state and wants to bring more pig ("bassar lavan") into Israel?
Basically, what this nonsense calls for is for all the "orange camp" people to unite and form a party. The problem is – as soon as you do that you may certainly be a "CAMP" but you no longer interest the "NATION". You are an outsider. A "one issue" party. You affect nothing, change nothing, influence nothing and ACCOMPLISH nothing.
The only way, repeat: THE ONLY WAY to make the changes we are looking for is from I-N-S-I-D-E Likud.
This does not "divide the national camp" as Professor Eidelberg says… it UNITES the Nationalist camp into the ONE PLACE where things can actually get done.
What does divide the nationalist camp is when Professor Eidelberg runs as a separate party called "Yamin Yisrael". That party – which he claimed would receive over 60 mandates – divided the nationalist camp by pulling AWAY tens of thousands of votes that went straight down the toilet. His party did so poorly in the elections that they did not even pass the minimum number of votes to get into the Knesset and all those votes were washed away. Now THAT is called "dividing the national camp".
Moshe Feiglin, on the other hand, has called for people to join Likud. Less than 6 months ago there were elections for the head of Likud. It was between 2 candidates: Netanyahu vs Feiglin. As we all know, Netanyahu won… but do we know how many votes separated these 2 men? About 20,000. Imagine that for a second.
Had 21,000 Nationalists joined Likud instead of all the parties that are now history: Yamin Yisrael, Techiya, Achi, Moledet, Tzomet and about 10 others… the head of Likud T-O-D-A-Y would be Moshe Feiglin.

Do you think we would be having this discussion if that happened?
Do you think the residents of Givat Ulpana and Migron would be sleeping better if – already today – Moshe Feiglin would be the head of Likud?

THAT'S the way… the ONLY way to go.

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In response:

Short answer: Been there, done that. Not true.  When was the last time Manhigut Yehudit joined other parties like National Union or Paul Eidelberg's party such as Yamin Yisrael, Techiya, Achi, Moledet, Tzomet and about 10 others…and tried to unite those who believe in the Torah and the Divine Covenant that G-d promised the Land to Israel.  The boundaries of Eretz Yisroel are delineated in Parshat Masei and happens to include Judea and Samaria. That is NOT the only part of the Torah that these parties wish to adhere to but it is fundamental to Torah.  

Did it ever occur to Manhigut Yehudit that the reason small parties failed was not because their message was too separatist, since the message is Torah which is universal, but rather because Manhigut Yehudit and perhaps other religious MKs were afraid that a Torah Message would be perceived as separatist and were overly concerned with the negative PR a Torah message would generate. Manhigut didn't want to be labeled as "extremists".  That didn't work because under Likud that is their label anyway. 

 Let us not be deceptive.  Manhigut's message is a Torah message.  Any Torah message will represent all of Israel and not only Judea and Samaria. A Torah message will represent all Jews as well as Non Jews in a fair and equitable way.  Unfortunately, it is Manhigut Yehudit who is labeling other parties as being separatists adding to the negative PR  of these parties who base their ideology on Torah. 

Torah parties like UTJ and Shas did not unite under a Torah Message with the above mentioned parties because they were into making deals rather than representing Torah and the Covenant Hashem made between our forefathers and Avraham Yitzchok and Yaakov.  Unfortunately, Torah took a back burner when these parties allowed themselves to be bought off for "worthy causes" such as housing subsidies and educational subsidies or ministerial positions. 
 
Long answer: What the heck does a "NATIONALIST CAMP" mean? Nationalist Camp is typically the Masorati Israeli who believes in the concept of a Greater Israel which includes Judea and Samaria
Do you include the Haredim – Haredim usually follow their Rav.  Sometimes the Rav decides on issues related to Judea and Samaria unfavorably from the perspective of the Nationalist camp, based on political deals which affect their housing, education and whether their Bachurim can be saved from being drafted into the IDF rather than on looking at the broader picture and what is best for the entire Nation. who abstained from the Ulpana vote because as their MK Eichler said, "When is the last time the Dati Leumi helped the Haredim so why should we help them? fyi It was reported that Eichler voted for the Ulpana Bill as directed by the Belze Rav while Rav Shteinman instructed UTJ MK's to vote against the Bill. Wheeling and dealing is politics which Likud and especially Netanyahu is a master chess player.  Furthermore, the system encourages such wheeling and dealing and one of the platforms of a new party would be reform of the electoral process and checks and balances between the branches of gov't so that such wheeling and dealing is not so prevalent.  However, if you stick with Likud, and finally get into power will you, Moshe Feiglin and advisors, want to limit your power and encourage the necessary reform or will you say I finally made it and there is no way I am going to give up the power that is built into the ruling elite.   
Shas – who supported Oslo? We are all human and we have all made mistakes including Likud.  That is why starting fresh for all is a good idea.  Even Shas can do Teshuva. 
Lieberman – who is pro Palestinian state and wants to bring more pig ("bassar lavan") into Israel? Is there any point in speaking Lashon Hara unless it is LeToeles?  Many fall into the category of Tinok Shenishba. 

Shmuel, Don't rationalize and comfort yourself by saying I can continue what I'm doing even if it is wrong because others are doing wrong as well. Focus on yourself and do what is right and then try to convince others to do what is right.
Basically, what this nonsense calls for is for all the "orange camp" people to unite and form a party. What is good for the Orange camp is good for all of Israel and is good for all of America and is good for all believers in the Bible.  That is a very large camp.   The problem is – as soon as you do that you may certainly be a "CAMP" but you no longer interest the "NATION". You are an outsider.  A one "issue" party. We are not only looking out for the "Orange Camp" but also by extension the Jewish Nation and also looking out for All Nations to be protected under our camp.  This one issue is the number one issue of our enemies including the EU the United Nations and President Obama.  They are obsessed with the settlements. You affect nothing, change nothing, influence nothing and ACCOMPLISH nothingi.
The only way, repeat: THE ONLY WAY to make the changes we are looking for is from I-N-S-I-D-E Likud  Not if there is no serious reform as suggested by Paul Eidelberg and Netanyahu continues to have control over the MK's so that they are not free to vote their conscience but must vote as a bloc.  Likud needs to have the Torah ideology in order to have G-d's approval.  Surely we can not affect nothing, change nothing,influence nothing and accomplish nothing w/o Hashem's guiding hand. If we value PR over what is truth we might win a short term battle but I don't see how we can win a war. .
This does not "divide the national camp" as Professor Eidelberg says… it UNITES the Nationalist camp into the ONE PLACE where things can actually get done.
What does divide the nationalist camp is when Professor Eidelberg runs as a separate party called "Yamin Yisrael". That party – which he claimed would receive over 60 mandates – divided the nationalist camp by pulling AWAY tens of thousands of votes that went straight down the toilet. His party did so poorly in the elections that they did not even pass the minimum number of votes to get into the Knesset and all those votes were washed away. Now THAT is called "dividing the national camp". Perhaps if the other parties would have been willing to be Mevatel themselves in order to unite under an ideology that represented Torah and what is best for humanity and not only the "orange camp" and not been so afraid of negative PR, and perhaps if other religious parties had not allowed themselves to be bought off with deals, perhaps, Prog. Eidelberg would have received his 60 mandates. 
Moshe Feiglin, on the other hand, has called for people to join Likud. Less than 6 months ago there were elections for the head of Likud. It was between 2 candidates: Netanyahu vs Feiglin. As we all know, Netanyahu won… but do we know how many votes separated these 2 men? About 20,000. Imagine that for a second. If Netanyahu is so afraid of Feiglin Al Achat Kama veKama. how much more so, he would be afraid if Feiglin and other Likud members joined with National Union, Bayit Yehudi, Shas, Yahadut HaTorah etc.
Had 21,000 Nationalists joined Likud instead of all the parties that are now history: Yamin Yisrael, Techiya, Achi, Moledet, Tzomet and about 10 others… the head of Likud T-O-D-A-Y would be Moshe Feiglin. But is Likud's ideology consistent with Feiglin's Torah ideology?
 
Do you think we would be having this discussion if that happened? It should have happened and it didn't. The fact that Netanyahu tricked Feiglin from winning time and time again is a sign that perhaps Feiglin is not where he should be and should reconsider and be in a Torah environment like a Fish in water. And I am not afraid to say that a Torah environment is the environment for all of humanity and not just the "orange camp".   Please read Paul Eidelbergs discussion about Hebraic law..... 
 
-Shmuel

Paul Eidelberg writes: 
Please consider the following "hypothesis". If  "Hareidi" leaders understood and promoted the program of this writer, they would save and soon control the country.  This unique program shows how to promote the Torah by means of democratic principles, and how to promote democracy by means of Torah principles. The "Hareidim" constitute the only major cohesive group in Israel. They only lack a program that will trump their critics. They must show--and this the present has shown in more than one book--that the Torah does not mandate a theocracy, and that both Catholic and Protestant Hebraists of the 17th and 18th centuries have maintained that Jewish law and the Hebraic Republic of antiquity are more just and more wise than any alternative, (I have written a book on he subject,) highlighting is mine. Robin


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Sincerely,

Robin Ticker
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