Re: You are in good company!

In a message dated 1/10/2008 10:55:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vegibud@gmail.com writes:

Robin, you wrote: "The prime consideration for a believing Jew is that the Torah is universal and inclusive and the Torah's message will bring peace and prosperity to mankind."  You obviously do not believe this.  You do not wish to be affiliated with Bob, because of his sexual preferences.  How is this inclusive?

Buddy, amv"sh

 

I still think you're a very special neshama in spite of my disagreement with you to join with the Coalition to Defend Jerusalem.  The Torah is universal and the Torah objects to that lifestyle.  It's not Bob that's the problem. It's that lifestyle that is not tolerated especially in the Holy Land.  It's not a good lifestyle for Bob or anyone else according to the Torah.  I think that  regarding this lifestyle it's a universal message.

 

If Bob was simply an activist with a different sexual preference that's none of my business.  He is a human being and imperfect as humans are,  including myself, and I am required to treat him with dignity and respect as one must treat his fellow imperfect human beings.

 

But Bob is a politician and the way he operates works fine for politics. He is focused on an objective and will unite on that objective.  In this case the objective is to unite against the establishment of a State of Palestine.  A very worthwhile objective.

 

The main problem as I see it is that  Bob and us have different objectives.  Our objective is the Torah.   Under that objective is Jewish sovereignty over the entire Land of Israel as the Torah states so that the people of Israel will observe the commandments of the Torah in the Land of Israel.

 

Therefore,  many including myself, feel that the Jewish People can not be under the umbrella of the Coalition to Defend Jerusalem unless the Coalition to Defend Jerusalem is under the Torah umbrella    Can't you see why someone like myself is resisting to join with someone like Bob Kunst who is constantly working to put me within his umbrella, while I am working to put him in our umbrella.  It's just not going to work.  If he is under our umbrella, he has to acknowledge that his lifestyle is contrary to Torah.  If I am under his umbrella, I must be tolerant of everyone's ideology and behavior. Even if politically, he can bring in lots of people and raise lots of money from individuals or groups that wish to support Shalom International Missionaries for instance, we reject them and don't want to accept that money  or their ideology.  There is only One G-d.  That is what's tolerated in the Land of Israel. 

 

Torah is not equivalent to democracy. We don't want money donated by Gay Pride organizations since we reject the lifestyle especially in Jerusalem. 

 

Our main objective is Torah.  Ki Mitzion Tezei Torah.  From Zion comes forth Torah. Even if we would succeed to achieve success in our secondary objective which is to oppose a State of Palestine,for us it is irrelevant, unless we remain true to our main objective.

 

 This is the point which has been difficult for you to understand.

 

Buddy, you need to make a choice.  Choose Torah and you choose life. As Bush says we must make some hard choices. By doing so you are not rejecting Bob as a friend. That is not your intention.  It's a choice for Torah, and nothing personal against any human being.

 

Gennady, I will G-d willing respond to your email as well.

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Yasher Koach to the Yesha Activists!

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Dear Fellow Activists for the Entire Land of Israel,  amv"sh

 

Yasher Koach!  I hope the momentum continues.  My concern is that when it comes to activism for Israel in the Diaspora the Jewish voice is still too silent. There is still a void because the major religious Jewish organizations such as Agudath Yisroel, Young Israel and OU are silent regarding Judea and Samaria.  We've come down hard for good reason on the OU.  I think at this point we need to take a softer tone of being Mekarev all these organizations with personal calls from Yesha leaders and Yesha activists to the leadership of the Silent Majority also known as the CCJER (Coordinating Council for Jerusalem) in the Diaspora.  Agudath Yisroel of America stressed at their  Agudah convention that we are one Guf  (body) and one Neshama (soul).  Because of Areivus, when we do good, we are all raised but when many of us are on the wrong path it brings us all down.  They were referring specifically to Kiruv (outreach) and the fact that 1 million Jews were lost to assimilation this past 10 years alone. However, the same can be said regarding how the Jew views his obligations in the Land of Israel.  The majority of Jews in the Diaspora and in Israel proper seem to feel that a disconnect to the Land of Israel is authentic Judaism.  They have therefore abandoned Yesha, Judea and Samaria.  In Parshat Veera Hashem says that He appeared to the forefathers but did not appear with the name Hashem only with the name Kel Shakai.  That is because Hashem promised them the Land but in their lifetime the promises never materialized.  They did not complain and believed in His promises. However to Moshe Rabbeinu, G-d is appearing with the name of Hashem because He will now show that He keeps His promises and is taking the Jews out of Egypt and bringing them back to the Land of Israel.  Let us say that in our generation G-d has appeared to us in the name of Hashem.  He has after 2,000 years fulfilled His promise to bring us back to the Land of Israel after we witnessed the fiery furnace of the Holocaust.  How can we continue to remain blind to the unbelievable miracles our generation has experienced including day after day in Sederot. How can we not even claim this precious Land as ours . If we truly desire to keep the commandments then we need the Land and this will bring peace and blessings to all of mankind.  Israel is peace and their ways of Torah is peace.  The accomplishments in technology, medicine, agriculture, disaster relief, the arts and music is benefiting the entire world.  When we allow terror to take over we destroy these gifts to mankind and destroy any future peace that fosters all contributions towards peace and prosperity.  The people of Israel, like no other nation wishes and desires to benefit mankind.  For this we require to be on our Land with exclusive sovereignty.  If we allow the criminal thief to take over, to rape us, to commit identity theft then we have essentially robbed the world of G-dliness and goodness for mankind.  The commandments, the Mitzvoth are the vehicle to bring forth this goodness to its ultimate.  It is therefore mandatory for the Torah believing community to take that public role of being a Mamlechet Kohanim Vegoy Kadosh. a Kingdom of Priests and a Holy Nation.  There must be some proclamation by our leadership which declares the Land of Israel, and the G-d given borders as absolute and nonnegotiable the rightful inheritance of the Nation of Israel.  The Silence in the Jewish Leadership has brought non Jewish Groups as the loudest Voice.  The Laws of Noah is the Torah for the Non Jew and not missionary forces.  We must strive for unity among the Nation of Israel since G-d can only bring His blessings when we unite.  Letting the chareidi or modern orthodox Diaspora Jew continue in their blindness to fall off the cliff and learn the hard way is simply not an option.  Yes we will survive but at what cost.  We are one Nation and if we love our brother we need to do whatever it takes to convince him that this Land is each and every one of ours.  Of course the secular Jew is as precious as any Jew that has studied the Torah his/her whole life.  However, we should expect more from the Jew that goes to the synagogue each week and is familiar with the Torah reading for that week. Our Written and Rabbinic Tradition pertains to each and every Jew and Non Jew in some didactic way.  Of course we must outreach to our fellow Jew who was not that fortunate to have learned or study the Torah.  Their contribution is equal and necessary for a wholesome unity.  When a Jew is lost, then the whole is lacking. When the Jews observe the commandments in the Land of Israel then once again G-d will be true to His promise and extend bessings that are never ending to all of mankind and all of humanity.

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Defending Rabbi Wolpe. Please read the 122 comments so far on Arutz7

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Time for some soul searching for the OU.  People are rightfully mad!

 

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124805

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