Monday, March 02, 2020

Fwd: הרב קנייבסקי: הצבעה לבן גביר - מעשה שיגעון - חדשות כיפה שחורה - ערוץ 7 חדשות, פוליטיקה, תרבות, יהדות ועוד Was Rav Kanievsky fully informed about Otzma Yehudit?

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עברית למטה

Was HaRav Kamievsky fully informed about Parshat Duma and the slanderous attacks against Otzma Yehudit candidates Michoel Ben Ari, Bentzi Gopshtein, Baruch Marzel and Hilltop Youth and the delegitizing campaign to thwart the will of hundreds of thousands of voters who  actually support statements of Torah of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane and the platform of Otzma Yehudit???

 Rav Kahane never advocated murdering innocent Arabs and their babies!!!

It seems like Parshat Duma is a  blood libel orchestrated against innocent Jews by the Jewish Division of Shabak spread by politicians with an agenda  in order to manufacture evidence for a narrative that there exists  religious  "Jewish right wing Terrorism" and a movement to "overthrow the government" of Israel. Is this defamation in order to keep right wing religious Nationalists .
in check as they pose a threat to the existing governing powers? Just speculation but can't come up with a rational explanation.

Is this a replay of the false slander of Josef and his brothers?

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האם רב קנייבסקי מעודקן עם פרשת דומא.

האם המידע עצל הרב קנייבסקי מלא או מסננים את המידע?

מאוד חשוב שישמע הצד של עוצמה יהודית  ובמיוחד על פרשת דומא ועלילת דם על נוער גבעות ותומכי הרב כהנא, שמוציאים דיבה עליהם,  לא אמיתי, שהם שייכים לאירגון טרור שמאמינים ויש להם דעה שמותר לרצוח ערבים ולהצית בית של משפחה ערבי עם תינוק חף מפשע ולהרוג אותם.

לא דובים ולא יער

כדאי להתיעץ עם הרב ליאור מחברון קרית ארבע שידבר עם הרב קנייבסקי על דעותיו של  עוצמה יהודית.

משמיצים שם של יהודים כשרים כמו מיכאל בן ארי וברוך מרזל ונוער גבעות שרוצים משפט יהודי בארץ ישראל...

במקום לחבק את אלו שאוהבים ארץ ישראל, עם ישראל וארץ ישראל מוציאים עליהם דבה רעה כמו יוסף ואחיו. 

https://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/428836 

Rav Aharon Feldman Retracts His Opposition in WZO in Deference to Rav Kanievsky's Ruling

Sunday, March 01, 2020

Re: HaRav Kanievsky rules to vote in WZC . Rabbi Edelstein agrees. See short video in Vosisnaies by Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky

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Lichvod Rabbi Platnick et al

Something is very fishy here. 

Rabbi Pesach Lerner of Eretz HaKodesh  sent me this link from Matzav.com a few days ago. Note that it is no longer valid.  However a new link is now on Matzav.com that seems to tell a very different  story. What is the Emes?

Why would Rav Kamenetsky davka get involved in Israeli politics and not American politics when his position has always been for the Rabbonim in Eretz Yisroel should rule on issues re Eretz Yisroel and MGH in Chutz LeAretz doesn't take a stand. Many times we asked him to make such rulings and he refrained.

Fyi
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Also this Video of Rav Kamenetsky speaking on Vosisnaies was removed today as well. I did see it this morning. 

Possibly if what you are saying is correct that Rav Kamenetsky supports voting in EY why wouldn't he publicize his support for voting in WZC as well if he indeed supports it. A private voice recording a week ago that appeared in Vosisnaies clearly confirms his dupport  about the WZO elections.

However it was a recording of a Sheila asked of him by an individual in EY and it's not clear if Rav Kamenetsky knew he was being recorded and/or if he wanted the recording publicized. 

We need a public statement  of Rav Kamenetsky clarifying his position that he was Misyaetz with HaRav Kanievsky who supported Rav Brudnys and his position re WZO that yes to vote in Chutz LeAretz!

Rav Brudnys video endorsing voting in WZC is on YouTube so it can't be removed by a news channel.

Shmuel Keonig spoke to Rav Kamenetsky directly today and he confirmed that he endorses voting in the WZC election and never retracted!


On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:13 PM aclgut <aclgut@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please see the link below. The video of Rav Rav Kamenetsky is about voting in the general election not WZO

-------- Original message --------
From: Robin Ticker <faigerayzel@gmail.com>
Date: 3/1/20 9:15 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Rabbi Lemberger <slemberger@bmg.edu>, HaRav Aharon Kotler <akotler@bmg.edu>
Cc: Shmuel Koenig <shmuelkoenig@verizon.net>, ACLGUT@yahoo.com, Yaniv Meirov <yanivmeirov@gmail.com>, eretzhakodeshwzo@gmail.com, Rabbi Feldman <RAF@nirc.edu>, Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky <talmudicalyeshiva@yahoo.com>, Odeleya Jacobs <odel216@aol.com>, Caren May <drivewithcaren@gmail.com>, Nessim and Lynne Tammam <hashoah@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: HaRav Kanievsky rules to vote in WZC . Rabbi Edelstein agrees. See short video in Vosisnaies by Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky


On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 12:32 AM Robin Ticker <faigerayzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Lichvod Rabbi Lemberger and Rabbi Aharon Kotler, SHLITA amvsh

Please show Rabbi Malkiel Kotler Arzi and the HATIKVAH Slate.

Torah Jews were passive about claiming Eretz Yisroel before WWII.

In 1948 Torah Judaism was passive and allowed the secular Zionists, the minority of Jews in the world to decide the agenda. Unfortunately the majority of Jewry, 6 million Kedoshim perished in the Holocaust.

In 1937 the majority of Moetzet Gedolei HaTorah came up with a resolution that supported a Jewish State of Israel based on Torah.

If we stand at the side and not become involved, who can we blame other than ourselves if Secular Jews set the agenda?



כנסי' מועצת גדולי התורה במריינבד בעברית The Knessiah Gedolah of Marienbad. Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah discussion re: A Jewish State: YES or NO? Yes for Jewish State!



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From: Robin Ticker <faigerayzel@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 11:33 PM
Subject: Re WZC as per conversation with Shmuel Koenig
To: <ACLGUT@yahoo.com>
Cc: Shmuel Koenig <shmuelkoenig@verizon.net>, Rabbi Feldman <RAF@nirc.edu>, Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky <talmudicalyeshiva@yahoo.com>, <eretzhakodeshwzo@gmail.com>, Odeleya Jacobs <odel216@aol.com>, Yaniv Meirov <yanivmeirov@gmail.com>


Feb 28, 2020
Re: Rav Feldman"s Psak not to vote in the WZC? Maybe reading the platform of ARZA and HATIKVAH will convince Rabbi Feldman what's at stake.
https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2020/02/re-rav-feldmans-psak-not-to-vote-in-wzc.html?m=1..

Thursday, January 23, 2020
Fwd: Vote Now to Protect the Kedusha of Eretz Yisrael! Rabbi Brudny encouraging Torah Jews to vote in the WZO Congress 
https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2020/01/fwd-vote-now-to-protect-kedusha-of.html?m=1

Saturday, January 18, 2020
Eretz HaKodesh | Vote to Protect Kedusha and Mesorah in Eretz Yisrael fyi
Numerous Rabbanim, including HaRav Yitzchak Berkowitz and HaRav Asher Weiss of Yerushalayim, and HaRav Elya Brudny of New York, feel there is much merit in this endeavor and are encouraging us in our efforts.



Rav Kanievsky said Voting for Ben Gvir is a vote of madness. Was Rabbi Kanievsky fully informed about Duma????? This needs to be clarified! Update: 8:30 PM – Ben-Gvir will not be dropping out of the elections.

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Update:  Ben Gvir not to drop out of race 
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/politics/speculation-ben-gvir-to-stage-last-minute-drop-save-80000-rightwing-votes/2020/03/01/

"...Meanwhile, Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky, one of the most important Haredi poskim, on Sunday morning called on his followers not to vote for Ben-Gvir, because, as he put it: "Voting for him would be an act of madness.""

There is reason to believe that Rav Kanievsky isn't always given the whole story.

Who misled Rav Kanievsky

HaRav Kanievsky rules to vote in WZC. BOMBSHELL: Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky Releases Video To VOTE In WZO;