Monday, July 25, 2011

Upcoming Yesha Activities: :Women in Green this week and RCRF Calendar Aug 1, 5, 7, 19, 30 ONGOING Wednesdays. Thursdays , Eretz Israel Shelanu links

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This Tuesday and Friday in Netzer

 

Tuesday July 26th at 4:30 pm in Netzer

Family farming and Ceramic workshop with artist Rivka Leibovitz

 

Transportation by registration only:

Jerusalem inbal hotel 3:30pm- Kiryat Arba Hevron 4:00pm- Tsomet hagush 4:15 pm-Elazar gate 4:20pm

 

Friday July 29th at 9:30 am in Netzer

Lecture for women by Tzippy Egert(instead of Sara Jo Ben Zvi)

 

Transportation by registration only:

Jerusalem Inbal hotel at 8:30 am- Kiryat Arba Hevron 9:00 am- Tsomet hagush 9:15- Elazar gate 9:20

 

For registration and details: Yehudit Katsover 050-7168181  Nadia Matar 050-5500834

 

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walk left past Kever Rachel to Beit Bnei Rachel, Free Parking OPPOSITE KEVER RACHEL.

 *RABBI DR. YITZCHAK BREITOWITZ:

ROSH CHODESH AV, MONDAY AUGUST 1, 6PM (5pm Egged #163 Bus)

"Two Visions of Community in the Book of Bamidbar"

*RABBI DR. JOSEPH KLAUSNER, Yedidyahu

4 Av, Thursday, August 4, 6PM(5pm Egged #163 Bus)

"Eicha; the tragedies of walled and unwalled cities, 1300s until present"

*Rabbi Ephraim Sprecher  

7 av, Sunday, August 7, 6PM (5pm Egged #163 Bus)

"Don't Despair – Hang in There!"

   Lecture by Devorah Mantel

Thursday, 18 Av/18 august, 6PM

*Biblical Art EXHIBIT 

Artist: Ellen Lapidus Stern  

*Harav Benyamin Levene: 

Rosh Chodesh Elul, Tuesday, August 30, 10am VIA 9AM Egged Bus

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Weekly

Atara Gur, Rachel Imeinu Scholar and Author

Nechama Sarah G. Nadborny, Author of "The Twelve Tribes of Israel"

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Devorah Mantel, Lecturer from Bar Ilan University

THURSDAYS 10AM VIA 9 AM BUS 

"The Strength of the Jewish Women"


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Tuesday, July 19, 2011

Fwd: Sovereignty Conference - Did you register yet? My comments

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Dear List, amv"sh
 
The Jewish People want clarity from our Spiritual Leaders!   Palestinian State vs Jewish Homeland.   What do the Jews CHOOSE?  I haven't heard clarity from Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah.   Where is the public discourse?  The Religious, Chareidi Jews are confused.  Jews in Brooklyn are confused.  AmericanYeshiva boys studying in Eretz Yisroel are confused as per any obligation to join the army to defend Eretz Yisroel because it is a Milchemet Mitzva or is it not relevant to their lives because they are Chareidi.
 
 Rav Shteinman says that it is forbidden to go to Kever Yosef because it's Pikuach Nefesh for Jews.http://matzav.com/rav-shteinman-those-who-go-to-kever-yosef-are-like-those-who-commit-suicide   (the PA is in charge of security and unless we coordinate beforehand with the IDF they justify gunning down Breslov Chasidim). 
 
Does that mean that living in Itamar is also dangerous. After all terrorists infiltrated Itamar (which overlooks Shchem, where Kever Yosef is found) and dismembered the Fogel baby's head among murdering the parents and other children. 
 
And if Jews leave Itamar chas vechalila, will Jews be more safe in Tel Aviv, Bnei Brak and Ben Gurion?
 
So what does Rav Shteinman and Rav Eliashiv choose?   A Jewish Homeland or a Palestinian State?   (It seems to me a Palestinian State but it's not clear) Rikki from Yated told me in the name of the Editor Rav Pinchus Lifshuts that there are two opinions.  My understanding from her that there is the opinion that Jews should be in Judea and Samaria and the opinion that Jews should not be in Judea and Samaria.  What is Rav Shteinman's opinion? What about Rav Eliashiv,  Maybe I didn't hear properly. You can call them up yourself and clarify.  Yated's telephone number in Monsey NY is 845-369-1600.  Since Yated does not want to take sides and be controversial they avoid articles promoting giving chizuk and support and/or twinning and fundraising for  Organizations, Yeshivoth and  communities in East Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria with their readership.  Most of their news items are eulogizing the Gedoilim that recently passed away. They endorse supporting Rubashkin and other worthy Tzedakos.  It is very difficult for emmisaries of Judea and Samaria and Har Habayit to get a nice reception or raise funds in Brooklyn and in the Chareidi world because they are not endorsed by members of Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah.
 
Surely now Yated as all the religious papers will focus on the gruesome details and discussions trying to find meaning of the murder of Leiby Kletzky z"l.  
 
But even in this Boro Park tragedy the question will be asked. Can this have been prevented?  When evil is staring you in the face and we  ignore the red flags and respond with solutions that do not address the threat, then evil will prevail.  Or is what happened something that G-d allowed to happen and there was nothing that could have been done to prevent it?
 
It all goes back to the Sin of the Spies.  The Three Weeks, Tisha Baav.
 
 
Caroline Glick says that choosing a Palestinian State means choosing our destruction. 
 
Moshe Dann says that choosing to annex Judea and Samaria is truth.
 
I say let us look at our Midrashic sources and see what choices we can offer the Palestinians of today.  It seems to me that if we allow them to stay in Judea and Samaria they must accept Jewish Sovereignty and the 7 Noahide Laws and then they have the rights of a Ger Toshav.  Israel must provide for their welfare.  Is this a solution of a radical right or is this the Torah solution ?
 
Let us refer to the book of Joshua and Judges. Here we find the narrative of the Israelites conquering the Promised Land. There is a sad and recurring story in the book of Judges. Unfortunately it is not fiction. It is a true story. G-d commands the Israelites to conquer the Land and the Canaanite Nations and all those that do not accept Israeli's Sovereignty and the 7 Noahide Laws were to be driven from the Land along with their idol worship and places of worship. The idol worshipers loved the horrible ceremonies, such as sacrificing children to the gods. (One can see much parallels to todays society to use Palestinian children as human shields and educate them to glorify Shahidism. It is consistent with this pagan philosophy to name schools after suicide martyrs. Go to PMW (Palestinian Media Watch )website to listen to Palestinian School Children singing patriotically and being trained to be shahid. Watch their version of Sesame STreet.

Going back to the Biblical Narrative in Joshua, the Canaanite nations did not choose to make peace and accept the 7 Noahide laws nor did they have any intention of leaving the beautiful land. According to the Little Midrash Says by Rabbi Moshe Weissman based on Midrashic sources (page 63), the only one of the seven nations that decided to move away from Eretz Canaan was the Girgashi. They all went to Africa. Hashem gave them a beautiful, new land in Africa as a reward for their leaving. In addition, the Givonim saw what happened to Sichon and Og and tricked the Israelites and pretended they wished to convert. They too were spared. The rest chose to fight.

When Joshua was 110 he gives his first speech. He assembled the Judges of the Sanhedrin, the Nesiim (leaders of the tribes) and as well as all of the Nation of Israel. He warns them. "You must continue to to drive away those Nations. Hashem will help you as He did until now. But if you begin to become friendly, with those nations, they will after a while teach you their evil ways and their idol worship. If you say "on the contrary, they will learn from US how to serve Hashem! Joshua answers that this is a mistaken idea. These nations will hurt and damage you like thorns that prick your body and eyes. In his last speech Joshua warns them again.

In the Book of Judges, the Tribe of Yehuda fights additional battles. They make a grave mistake by allowing Canaanites to stay in their portion. After conquering a mountain on their part of the land they began to attack the Canaanim who lived in the valley below. To their dismay they discovered that those Canaanites possessed iron chariots. In those times, iron chariots were the equivalent of modern powerful tanks or airplanes. (p13 Shoftim Littlel Midrash Says) The men of Yehudah had no iron chariots, They said, "it is useless for us to fight against an army that has iron chariots! We will all, G-d forbid be killed.

They lacked the proper trust in Hashem. Because of this, a number of Canaanim survived and remained in Shevet Yehuda's portion of the land. This was a serious sin. The men of shevet Yehuda transgressed Hashem's command to kill (or drive out) all the seven nations living in Eretz Canaan. This scenario of the Israelites falling spiritually has a direct correlation with their inability to drive out the Canaanite nations.

As soon as the Israelites began serving idols as a result from their association with the Idol Worshipers, they fell into the enemy's hand and in the face of disaster, Hashem who is forever merciful sends 12 great Judges to lead the people and lead them back to righteousness.

According to the Little Midrash Says: based on Midrashic sources, The Jews had several choices:

1. To drive them out of the land. or
2. To use them as servants, in which case the Canaanim would pay taxes and keep the seven Noahide Laws or:
3. if the Nations would not agree to either of the above choices, Bnai Yisrael had to destroy them completely.

Hashem commanded the Bnei Yisroel in the desert "Do not allow any of the seven nations to remain free men in Eretz Canaan?". What was the reason for this commandment?

These nations worshiped idols as mentioned before and had bad character traits like in the wicked city of Sdom who robbed and abused the poor.

it any wonder that the Palestinian refugees are still living in such horrid conditions after all these years.

They are trained to be wicked.

Here are some examples: What happens to naive Peace activists women as they enter Arab camps and villages fighting for Palestinian Rights? What happens to Jewish women that foolishly agree to a relationship with ARabs and are then are trapped in Arab Villages and need secretive operations to free them. What is the Sharia law regarding Palestinian women who do not submit to their husbands? Why are Palestinian children trained to be martyrs and suicide bombers. Why are they are trained to lie to the "infidels"?. 
 


 
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Dear Friends,

Two days to our conference in Hebron on the issue of "Applying
sovereignty over Judea and Samaria" and the response is thank G-d
overwhelming. If you plan on coming and need transportation from
Jerusalem, please call us to reserve seats on the buses. Lectures will
be in Hebrew with simultaneous translation into English.

The topic of the urgent need for  Israeli sovereignty in Judea and
Samaria is finally being raised in the media too.
See below for Caroline Glick's article appearing in today's Jerusalem Post.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=229937

Caroline Glick will be one of the speakers at our conference.
As she writes in her article:
"No, annexation won't be easy. But then again, the alternative is
national suicide."

Glick's article is being followed by an article by Moshe Dann that
appeared this week in the Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=215649

As Moshe Dann writes:
"The State of Israel, therefore, on behalf of the Jewish People, has
the obligation and responsibility to say the truth: Eretz Yisrael,
including Judea and Samaria, legitimately, legally and historically
belongs to the Jewish People; it always has and always will."

Looking forward to  see you all in Hevron at the conference- please
G-d Thursday July 21st starting at 5:00pm with as speakers MK Tzipi
Hotovely, MK Arieh Eldad, Caroline Glick, Yoram Ettinger, Prof. Rafi
Israeli, Eran Bar-Tal, Elaykim Haetzni and Dr Gabi Avital.

Details and exact schedule of the conference can be found on our
website: www.womeningreen.org

Sincerely

Nadia Matar and Yehudit Katsover
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Our World: Israel's only two options
By CAROLINE B. GLICK
18/07/2011
The Jewish state's choices are to either annex Judea and Samaria or be
destroyed by its neighbors.

Fatah leader Mahmoud Abbas is in Europe this week seeking to convince
the Spanish and Norwegian governments to support the Palestinian bid
to sidestep negotiations with Israel and have the UN General Assembly
recognize Palestinian sovereignty over Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem in
addition to Gaza.

The Palestinians know that without US support, their initiative will
fail to gain Security Council support and therefore have no legal
weight. But they believe that if they push hard enough, Israel's
control over these areas will eventually unravel and they will gain
control over them without ever accepting Israel's right to exist.

Fatah's UN gambit, along with its unity deal with Hamas, makes clear
that the time has come for Israel to finally face the facts: There are
only two realistic options for dealing with Judea and Samaria.

Either the Palestinians will take control of Judea and Samaria, or
Israel will annex them.

If the Palestinians take control, they will establish a terror state
in the areas, which – like their terror state in Gaza – will use its
territory as a starting point for continued war against Israel.

It isn't only Israel's experience with post-withdrawal Gaza and South
Lebanon that make it clear that a post-withdrawal
Palestinian-controlled Judea and Samaria will become a terror state.
The Palestinians themselves make no bones about this.

In a Palestinian public opinion survey released last week by The
Israel Project, 65 percent of Palestinians said they believe that they
should conduct negotiations with Israel. But before we get excited, we
need to read the fine print.

According to the survey, those two-thirds of Palestinians believe that
talks should not lead to the establishment of the State of Palestine
next to Israel and at peace with the Jewish state. They believe the
establishment of "Palestine" next to Israel should serve as a means
for continuing their war against Israel. The goal of that war is to
destroy what's left of Israel after the "peace" treaty and gobble it
into "Palestine."

That is, 66% of Palestinians believe "peace" talks with Israel should
be conducted in bad faith.

Moreover, three-quarters deny Jewish ties to Jerusalem, and 80%
support Islamic jihad against Jews as called for in the Hamas charter;
73% support the annihilation of the Jewish people as called for in the
Hamas charter on the basis of Islamic scripture.

As bad as Israel's experience with post-withdrawal Gaza and South
Lebanon has been, Israel's prospects with a post-withdrawal Judea and
Samaria will be far worse. It isn't simply that withdrawal will invite
aggression from Judea and Samaria. It will invite foreign Arab armies
to invade the rump Jewish state.

Unlike the post-withdrawal situation with Gaza and South Lebanon,
without Judea and Samaria, Israel would not have the territorial depth
and topographical advantage to defend itself from invasion from the
east.

Moreover, the establishment of the second Palestinian terror state
after Gaza in Judea and Samaria would embolden some of Israel's Arab
citizens in the Galilee and the Negev as well as in Jaffa, Lod, Haifa
and beyond to escalate their already declared irredentist plans to
demand autonomy or unification with whatever Palestinian terror state
they choose.

Living under the constant threat of invasion from the east (and the
south, from a Muslim Brotherhood-controlled Egyptian army moving
through the Sinai and Gaza), Israel would likely be deterred from
taking concerted action against its treacherous Arab citizens.

As then-prime minister Ariel Sharon warned in 2001, the situation
would be analogous to the plight of Czechoslovakia in the 1930s. Just
as the Nazis deterred the Czech government from acting against its
traitorous German minority in the Sudetenland in the 1930s, so Arab
states (and a nuclear Iran), supporting the Palestinian terror states
in Judea and Samaria and in Gaza, would make it impossible for Israel
to enforce its sovereign rights on its remaining territory.

Israel's destruction would be all but preordained.

The second option is for Israel to annex Judea and Samaria, complete
with its hostile Arab population.

Absorbing the Arab population of Judea and Samaria would increase
Israel's Arab minority from 20% to 33% of the overall population. This
is true whether or not Israel grants them full citizenship with voting
rights or permanent residency without them.

Obviously such a scenario would present Israel with new and complex
legal, social and law enforcement challenges. But it would also
provide Israel with substantial advantages and opportunities.

Israel would have to consider its electoral laws and weigh the
prospect of moving from a proportional representation system to a
direct, district system. It would have to begin enforcing its laws
toward its Arab citizens in a manner identical to the way it enforces
its laws against its Jewish citizens. This includes everything from
administrative laws concerning building to criminal statutes related
to treason. It would have to ensure that Arab schoolchildren are no
longer indoctrinated to hate Jews, despite the fact that according to
the Israel Project survey, 53% of Palestinians support such
anti-Semitic indoctrination in the classroom.

These steps would be difficult to enact.

On the other side, annexing Judea and Samaria holds unmistakable
advantages for Israel. For instance, Israel would regain complete
military control over the areas. Israel ceded much of this control to
the PLO in 1996.

The Palestinian armies Israel agreed to allow the PLO to field have
played a central role in the Palestinian terror machine. They have
also played a key role in indoctrinating Palestinian society to seek
and work toward Israel's destruction. By bringing about the disbanding
of these terror forces, Israel would go a long way toward securing its
citizens from attack.

Furthermore, by asserting its sovereign rights to its heartland, for
the first time since 1967, Israel would be adopting an unambiguous
position around which its citizens and supporters could rally.
Annexation would also finally free Israel's politicians and diplomats
to tell the truth about the pathological nature of Palestinian
nationalism and about the rank hypocrisy and anti-Semitism at the
heart of much of the international Left's campaigns on behalf of the
Palestinians.

No, annexation won't be easy. But then again, the alternative is
national suicide.

And again, these are the only options. Either the Palestinians form a
terror state from which it will wage war against the shrunken,
indefensible Jewish state, or Israel expands the size of the Jewish
state.

Since 1967, Israel has refused to accept the fact that these are the
only two options available. Instead, successive governments and the
nation as a whole have set their hopes on imaginary third options. For
the Left, this option has been the fantasy of a two-state solution.
This "solution" involves the Palestinians controlling some or all of
the lands Israel took over from Jordan and Egypt in the Six Day War,
establishing a state, and all of us living happily ever after.

Given the Palestinians' overwhelming, consistent and violent support
for the destruction of Israel in any size, this leftist fantasy never
had a leg to stand on.

And since 1993, when the Rabin government adopted the Left's fantasy
as state policy, more than 2,000 Israelis have been killed in its
pursuit.

Not only has the Left's third option fantasy facilitated the
Palestinian terror machine's ability to kill Jews, it has empowered
their propaganda war against Israel.

Israel's pursuit of the nonexistent two-state solution has eroded its
own international position to a degree unprecedented in its history.

Last week's meeting of the so-called Middle East Quartet ended without
a final statement. It isn't that its members couldn't agree on the
need to establish "Palestine" in Judea and Samaria and Jerusalem. That
was a no-brainer. The Quartet members couldn't agree on the need to
accept the Jewish state. Russia reportedly rejected wording that would
have enjoined the Palestinians to accept the Jewish state's right to
exist as part of a peace treaty.

And this was eminently foreseeable. The unhinged two-state solution
makes Israel's legitimacy contingent on the establishment of a
Palestinian state. And it put the burden to establish a Palestinian
state on Israel.

Since everyone except Israel and the US always accepted the
establishment of a Palestinian state, and no one except Israel and the
US always accepted the existence of the Jewish state, by making its
own legitimacy dependent on Palestinian statehood, Israel started the
clock running on its own demonization.

The longer Israel allows its very right to exist to be contingent on
the establishment of another terror state committed to its
destruction, the less the nations of the world will feel obliged to
accept its right to exist.

As for the Right, its leaders have embraced imaginary third options of
their own. Either Jordan would come in and save us, or the
Palestinians would come to like us, or something.

The one thing that both the Left's fantasy option and the Right's
fantasy option share is their belief that the Palestinians or the
Arabs as a whole will eventually change. Both sides' imaginary third
options maintain that with sufficient inducements or time, the Arabs
will change their behavior and drop their goal of destroying Israel.

Our 44-year dalliance in fantasyland has not simply weakened us
militarily and diplomatically. It has torn us apart internally by
surrendering the debate to the two ideological fringes of the
political spectrum. Actually, to be precise, we have surrendered 99%
of our public discourse to the radical Left and 1% to the radical
Right.

The Left's control over the discourse has caused its ideological
opposite's numbers to increasingly disengage from the state. That
would be bad enough, but the Palestinians' inarguable bad faith and
continued commitment to Israel's destruction have driven the far Left
far off the cliff of reason and rationality.


Unable to convince their fellow Israelis that their two-state pipe
dream will bring peace, the Israeli Left has joined forces with the
international Left in its increasingly shrill campaigns to
delegitimize the country's right to exist and undermine its ability to
defend itself.

This sorry state of affairs is exemplified today by the radical Left's
hysterical response to the Knesset's passage last week of the
anti-boycott law. The comparatively mild law makes it a civil offense
to solicit boycotts against Israel. It bars people engaged in economic
warfare against Israel from getting government benefits and makes them
liable to punitive damages in civil suits.

The Left's hysterical public relations campaign to demonize the law
and its supporters as fascists and seek its overthrow through the
Supreme Court makes clear that the Left will wage war against its own
country in pursuit of its delusion.

But aside from driving the public discourse into the depths of
ideological madness, Israel's embrace of fantasy has made it
impossible for us to conduct a sober-minded discussion of our only
real options. The time has come to debate these two options, choose
one, and move forward.

caroline@carolineglick.com

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The imperative of Jewish sovereignty
By MOSHE DANN, The Jerusalem Post
July 4, 2011
Jewish sovereignty speaks to the purpose and promise of the State of
Israel and to everyone who is inspired by that vision.

As the PA/PLO presses for UN recognition of statehood, the question of
who has sovereign rights over Judea and Samaria becomes critical.
Historically and legally part of the Jewish national homeland, it is
also claimed by Palestinians. To whom does this area belong? A
uniquely Jewish definition of sovereignty provides a compelling
answer.

Sovereignty, the ability of a government to act independently and in
its own interests, is the essence of statehood. Applying just
authority and institutions to assure the protection and well-being of
its citizens are what conventional statehood is about. A relatively
modern concept associated with 16th-century French philosopher Jean
Bodin, then later with Hobbes, Rousseau, Hegel and others, sovereignty
is the expression of national independence and the right and
responsibility to rule.

The roots of Jewish sovereignty in Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel),
however, are not modern. They are biblical, grounded in Jewish thought
and history: the first and second Temples, commonwealths and
civilizations that flourished in the Land of Israel, especially in
Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria.

A thousand years ago, the great biblical and Talmudic commentator
Rashi explained Jewish sovereignty. When the Jewish people conquer,
settle and re-establish political sovereignty in the Land of Israel,
the nations of the world will accuse them of stealing the land. His
reply: Other nations simply occupy their lands; God Himself gave Eretz
Yisrael to the Jewish people as an everlasting inheritance. This
suggests an understanding of Jewish sovereignty that transcends
politics.

Sovereignty, like beauty, may be only in the eyes of the beholder, but
it also says something about those who behold it. Unlike that of other
countries and contexts, the concept of Jewish sovereignty in Eretz
Yisrael adds a distinctly intimate dimension – Shechinah, God's
Presence, an eternal bond between the Jewish People and the Land of
Israel, a reverence for The Land itself as sacred.

The State of Israel, therefore, on behalf of the Jewish People, has
the obligation and responsibility to say the truth: Eretz Yisrael,
including Judea and Samaria, legitimately, legally and historically
belongs to the Jewish People; it always has and always will.
Proclaiming Jewish, rather than simply Israeli sovereignty is an
authentic statement of the relationship between the Jewish People and
the Land of Israel.

DECLARING JEWISH sovereignty clearly and unequivocally will correct
the distortion and misunderstanding of those who ignore or deny Jewish
history and international law grounded in the League of Nations and in
its Mandate for Palestine.

The Jewish return to Eretz Yisrael and the establishment of a state,
Israel's towering achievements in science and technology, its
contributions to world civilization and myriad creative innovations
are physical, material representations of a profound spiritual
dimension – the fulfillment of Jewish sovereignty and destiny.

Jewish sovereignty speaks to the purpose and promise of the State of
Israel and to everyone who is inspired by that vision.

It is a statement of affirmation, not apology – of commitment, not
appeasement. It is what true Zionism is all about. Israel's failure to
express Jewish sovereignty over Judea and Samaria weakens its
diplomatic position and strengthens those who contest its claim.
Sovereignty Now.

The writer is a historian, writer and journalist living in Jerusalem.
moshedan@netvision.net.il

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Tuesday, July 12, 2011

Rav Shteinman: Those Who Go To Kever Yosef are Suicidal and my comments

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"Visitors to Kever Yosef are like those who commit suicide," said Rav Aharon Leib Shteinman at his home at 5 Rechov Chazon Ish in Bnei Brak.

Rav Shteinman made his remarks to a group of dayanim who came to his home to discuss visiting the tzion of Yosef Hatzaddik and those who place themselves in immense danger doing so.

"The people who go there are forfeiting their lives. There is real sakonas nefashos. This is also called 'hisgaros be'umos' (teasing the nations). They know it angers the goyim and they go anyway."

"For what purpose do people do this?" asked the senior rosh yeshiva of Yeshiva Orchos Torah. "Are there nokevorim here in Bnei Brak, or Yerushalayim, or up north to go to?"

"Anyone who goes there," added Rav Shteinman, "if chas veshalom something happens to him, 'damo berosho' (his blood is on him, i.e., he is accountable for his own fate). Even an eglah arufah need not be brought for such a person. He is to blame. He brought it on himself. It is like one who committed suicide."

"Nowadays that the danger is known to all," concluded Rav Shteinman, "there's no purpose in going, and thesakanah is greater than any gain."


I agree with a comment of this link:  If the IDF would defend Kever Yosef properly it would not be a Makom of Sakana. 

THere was a cold blooded murder of a Breslov Chasid ben Yosef Livnat  when he went to davan in Kever Yosef unarmed.  I can not accept that it is the case of Damo BaRosho but rather Damo on all those who allowed the lives of Jews to be Hefker and did not insist on adequate security for this holy site in Eretz Yisroel. The Breslov Chasidim were willing to be Moser Nefesh in order to show the World that Eretz Yisroel is our rightful inheritance as per Hashem's Covenant with Am Yisroel and their right to prey at this HOLY Site as per the International law and the Law of the Land and this murder proved what we all now know that  when we do not protect Eretz Yisroel, our Holy Land,and we allow our enemies the opportunity to defend us,  then all of our lives are in serious danger. 

The Fogel family were murdered in cold blood in Itamar.   The Yishuv did not have the necessary cameras to detect the infiltration properly .My rhetorical question to Rav Shteinman  Is whether living in the Yishuv of  Itamar constitutes putting your life in Sakana? It is a rhetorical question since  I know the answer already.

 We all know what happened when those in Gush Katif were expelled.  Rav Perlow at a Agudah Convention quoted Rav Eliashiv who said, from a security standpoint it made things worse!.  Should those in Itamar leave?  Should they be sitting ducks waiting for tragedy to happen?  Should settlers of Judea and Samaria be expelled like those from Gush Katif?  After all, their settlements anger the local Arab population. Damo BRosho? To where will they run?

Did the "Disengagement" bring security to Sderot, Ashkelon and Ashdod?  
 
The  IDF allowed the PA to be in charge of security.  This put not only Breslev Chassidim lives in danger  but also the lives of all Jews living in Judea and Shomron in danger. This murder of ben Yosef Livnat should have woken up those who are blind as per the Pikuach Nefesh of hundreds of thousands of Jews living in Judea and Samaria because roadblocks are being closed and the  PA is being trained by America with sophisticated weapons and training,only to align themselves with Hamas.  Why has the  IDF turned a blind eye and the Israel judicial system act in discriminatory judgments against those living in Judea and Samaria?   When there are thefts of property and acts of aggression against fellow Jew not only are settlers not defended they are prosecuted when false allegations are brought against them.

Rav Shteinman," Is the plight of Jews of Judea and Samaria "Nisht Inzere Sugia"?.  (not of our concern)

Should we in America and in Bnei Brak wait until it is too late when it is "Inzare Sugia" and there will be no one there to help us defend ourselves chas Veshalom like it happened in Eastern Europe?  When a psak saying that those that go to Kever Yosef is suicidal gets printed it confuses the editors as per whether living in Judea and Samaria is also Suicidal.  This results is that those same editors ignore the plight of those living in Judea and Samaria by not taking sides.When there is no awareness, hundreds of thousands of caring Jews are then stopped from doing their hishtadlus in whatever capacity to protect Eretz Yisroel.  Then because of Areivus, we as a Nation are not worthy of claimng the Land. 

 Please reevaluate this Psak. 


When we give the high ground to our enemies like the Shomron, those in the low ground like Tel Aviv airport and perhaps even Bnei Brak are in danger.  

Damo B'Rosho.  Let us not put the blame on the innocent.  Let us see the whole picture.

Let us unite and may there be a Tikkun of Chait HaMiraglim in our Generation  the Yetzer Hara, the evil inclination which blinds us and which discourages the people from inheriting the Land of Eretz Yisroel.  Surely our Gedoilim have the ability and the greatness to lead Am Yisroel to greatness.  That is why they are accepted as Gedoilim and I am not.  However, we are all human and Hashem should help us all see how we can be Metaken what needs to be Metaken. 

Please forgive me for speaking out.May HASHEM who understands the thinking of my heart knows that I do have Emunas Chachamim and strengthen my Emunas Chachamim and it is for this reason I am addressing this matter.   Hareini Mocheles lechol me Shehichis oti.....Let us forgive each other and judge each other favorably and may Hashem forgive us for all our sins. 
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Very Negative Obama Press

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Dear List, amv"sh

The point of this email is not to bash Obama but rather to educate those that want to judge Obama favorably with closed eyes.   

As Jews we know that Torah is the only true morality.  

Jews excel at Loving Kindness. Feeding the poor, sharing our wealth with others, and givingTzedaka are all admirable traits when implemented within boundaries, with wisdom with oversight and foresight. 

When Loving Kindness  is overstepped and mixes with cruelty you get immorality.  Obama's policies are weakening America by encouraging policies which  encourage sharing her wealth without foresight weakening her in the process while empowering those who are cruel and who are deceptive and who do not share America's vision of the founding fathers of a Nation under G-d with liberty and justice for all.

While many of these policies and programs also help many needy people short term who depend on these gov't policies let us remember that if evil gains the upper hand and America goes down G-d forbid, it is bad  for rich and poor alike in the long term.  

We must make sure that AMerica's wealth is shared by those who abide by the Seven Noahide laws.  In this way we ensure that G-ds world is protected and our charity is an investment to our collective future rather than a giveaway which empowers our enemies.

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What It Means to Engage Hezbollah
Omri Ceren/@mere_rhetoric - Contentions - 07-11/2011

There are a number of signs the Obama White House is ready to establish something more than a modus vivendi with Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon. From siding with Beirut over Jerusalem regarding maritime resources to providing weapons to the Hezbollah-infiltrated LAF on the thinnest pretexts, the administration seems intent on "biting the bullet," "living in the real world," "negotiating with enemies not friends," or whatever leaden catchphrase we're using this week to justify bringing into the tent fanatics who want to destroy us. That's the White House's prerogative, obviously. Article II Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution has consequences, no matter what Democratic Jews who fixate on domestic issues would like to believe.

But let's all keep in mind what Hezbollah is, because there was a time when even the echo of something like national honor would have precluded sitting across the table from them or anyone who refused to repudiate them. We owe more than a few Hezbollah leaders death sentences, and we owe the organization itself nothing less than unremitting hostility until we or they lose (as the world's only hyperpower, in theory I like our odds). Instead the White House is actively searching for loopholes to maintain or enhance bilateral relations with Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon. So it's worth reviewing how in 1984 Hezbollah kidnapped CIA Lebanon Station Chief William Buckley as he was leaving his house in the morning. They tortured him continuously for 15 months, occasionally sending videos of him naked and screaming to U.S. bureaus and agencies in Europe, until his body gave out. In the meantime, Hezbollah used the information he provided to dismantle U.S. intelligence assets in the Levant:

On Monday morning, May 7, 1984, the United States embassy in Athens received a video posted in the city… It showed William Buckley undergoing torture… The camera zoomed in and out of Buckley's nude and damaged body. He held before his genitalia a document marked "MOST SECRET"… Casey later remembered how "… They had done more than ruin his body. His eyes made it clear his mind had been played with. It was horrific, medieval and barbarous"… Buckley showed symptoms of being drugged; his eyes were dull and his lips slack. His gaze was of a person deprived of daylight for some time… Buckley had spent long periods being hooded. Buckley bore chafe marks on his wrists and neck suggesting he had been tethered with a rope or chain. A careful study of every inch of visible skin revealed puncture marks indicating he had been injected at various points.

The second video arrived 23 days later. This time it was posted to the United States Embassy on Via Veneto in Rome… It revealed Buckley continued to be horrifically treated… Buckley's voice was slurred and his manner noticeably more egocentric as if not only the world beyond the camera, but his immediate surroundings, held increasingly less interest for him… His hands shook and his legs beat a tattoo on the floor as he mumbled pathetic pleas to be exchanged under a guarantee the United States would remove "all of its influences" from Lebanon and would persuade Israel to do the same…

On Friday, October 26, 1984, 224 days since Buckley was kidnapped, a third video arrived at the CIA. The tape was even more harrowing. Buckley was close to a gibbering wretch. His words were often incoherent; he slobbered and drooled and, most unnerving of all, he would suddenly scream in terror, his eyes rolling helplessly and his body shaking. From time to time he held up documents, which had been in his burn-bag, to the camera. Then he delivered a pathetic defence of his captor's right to self-determination in Lebanon… William Buckley's kidnapping was into its second year by the spring of 1985. The CIA consensus was that he would be blindfolded and chained at the ankles and wrists and kept in a cell little bigger than a coffin.

In 1988, a few years after Buckley's torture and murder, Hezbollah kidnapped U.S. Marine Colonel Rich Higgins. Higgins, who at the time was serving as a UN military observer, was tortured and eventually murdered. We know as much because two years later Hezbollah released a videotape of his torture-scarred body hung and dangling from the ceiling. Here's how U.S. diplomat Fred Hof described theblood debt to be paid by Hezbollah's current leadership, including Nasrallah, for Higgins:

A friend of mine – Colonel Rich Higgins – was kidnapped by Hezbollah while he was serving as a UN military observer in Lebanon… he had been tortured and killed months before our efforts to free him finally ended. I am one of a small handful of Americans who knows the exact manner of Rich's death. If I were to describe it to you now – which I will not – I can guarantee that a significant number of people in this room would become physically ill.When my former business partner Rich Armitage described Hezbollah a few years ago as the "A-Team" of international terrorism and suggested that there was a "blood debt" to be paid, he was referring to a leadership cadre that is steeped in blood and brutality.

And of course, there are the 63 people Hezbollah murdered when they bombed our Beirut embassy in 1982, the 241 Marines they killed in their barracks in 1983, and the 18 serviceman they killed near the Torrejon Air Force Base in 1984. These might all be water under the bridge to the reset-philic neophytes who inhabit the White House, but the Hezbollah leaders who committed these atrocities are very much aware of who is coming to whom asking for talks, and under the shadow of what crimes. Americans should be as well.

Again, the President has the right to conduct foreign policy in whatever way he thinks will promote American national interests. But citizens have an obligation to ask when we lost hold of the idea that some enemies are actually enemies, and that obsequiously asking for their time is not a sign of foreign policy sophistication. Hezbollah has been murdering and torturing Americans for decades. With the possible exception of al Qaeda, and driven by their state sponsor Iran, there is no terrorist organization more thoroughly committed to undermining American interests globally. What is the White House possibly thinking?

Link to original article:  http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/07/11/engaging-hezbollah-or-hezbollah-controlled-lebanon/

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This needs to be emailed to everyone in the USA ..

OBAMA'S COLLEGE CLASSMATE SPEAKS OUT

By Wayne Allyn Root , June 6th, 2010

Barack Hussein Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent.

To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing.

He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure,
economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and
our country from within.

Barack Hussein Obama was my college classmate

Columbia University , class of '83).

He is a devout Muslim do not be fooled.

Look at his Czars...anti-business..anti- american.
As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Barack Huss
ein Obama is
following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbi University ..
They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system
with government spending and entitlement demands.

Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming.

Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn

the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority

that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted

on to always vote for bigger government.

Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

Universal health care . The health care bill had very little to do with health

care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and

health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions).

Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans

will add trillions to the national debt.

What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government .
Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill

in the middle of a depression?

Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with
health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming.

It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control
of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors.
Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns
NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants.

They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to

Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power.
The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars,
bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."

Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state?
Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government
entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression?

Certainly not American taxpayers.
But this has been Barack Hussien Obama's plan all along.

His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.

Legalize 12 million illegal Mexican immigrants.

Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America .
But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted
on to support big government.
Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children,
food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and
eventually Social Security .

Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go?

It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country.

It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could
keep paying union dues.

It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out

(after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions).

A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues).

All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their
bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America .

The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful.

The ends justify the means.

Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job
creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers,

redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did

nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama).

Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Barack Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition. With the acts outlined above, Barack Hussein Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the
system.

Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by
my Columbia University college classmate Barack Huss
ein Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan ..

"Correctly attributed" says snopes!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/overwhelm.asp

 

 


From David Horowitz of the Freedom Center:
Something dangerous just happened, but because themainstream press is always trying to protect Barack Obama, you probably didn't hear about it...In a single foolish and ill-considered move, ourPresident has made the United States dramatically less safe.

 Just days before Independence Day, the Obama Administration formallyrecognized the Muslim Brotherhood, organizers of world terror and instigators of hatred of the U.S. and Israel.  Created to advance Islamacross the globe, the Muslim Brotherhood has helped finance at least a dozen radical Islamic terror groups, including Hamas and al Qaeda.  Accordingto secret papers obtained by the FBI just weeks after 9/11, the Brotherhood has worked for years to infiltrate American social groups as part of itsplan for a world takeover by Muslim extremism.  

 This is the group our President has decided he will do business with.  It is the mostreckless thing he could do to you, your family and our nation!  That's why the Freedom Center has launched The Truth About the MuslimBrotherhood Project to expose the Muslim Brotherhood and show how its agenda has already wormed its way into all areas of American life.

 But we need your financial help to spread the word out via this special project.  That's why we'll rush you a copy of the Center's newbooklet Obama and Islam for your immediatetax-deductible contribution of $25, $50, $100, $250 or more.

 The Muslim Brotherhood is the international version of TerrorInc., and will always be our enemy.  For years it has methodically, insidiously, patiently and secretly tried to bring jihad to our homeland, and itwill not drop this objective because of a smile from the President.  But Obama wants us to believe that the Muslim Brotherhood is just anotherpolitical party.

 Unless we educate Americans about the Muslim Brotherhood and its blueprint for subversion, the Brotherhood willsucceed.  Through The Truth About the Muslim Brotherhood Project, the Freedom Center will print and distribute 300,000 more copies ofObama and Islam, create a series of newspaper ads exposing the Muslim Brotherhood and print and distribute more copies of my book UnholyAlliance.  

 Will you help makeThe Truth About the Muslim Brotherhood Project a success by making the most generous contribution you can afford right now?  Don't forgetthat we'll rush you a free copy of Obama and Islam when you give $25 or more.

 Barack Obama knows that Brotherhood members arethe Godfathers of the world terror movement.  But with characteristic egotism, he seems to think that he can charm this leopard into changing itsspots.   I hope the Freedom Center can count on you to help us prove otherwise.

 Thank you in advance for your support.

Sincerely,
 
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 President & Founder 
  P.S. First Hamas and now the Muslim Brotherhood.  How many terror organization isPresident Obama going to embrace?  I know once you've read Obama and Islam you'll be proud to have helped inform more of yourfriends and neighbors to the danger the Muslim Brotherhood represents to Middle East peace and American security.  Please follow this link right away to make a contributionto the Freedom Center to support The Truth About the Muslim Brotherhood Project.  If you donate $25 or more, we'll rush you a free copyof Obama and Islam.


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