Town Hall Meeting with Congressman Anthony Wiener Flatbush USA Policy Towards Israel

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Tonight, Congressman Anthony Weiner held a Town Hall Meeting in Flatbush Ave N Jewish Center about USA Policy Towards Israel. Other meetings in the area are scheduled.  It was not a full audience by any estimation.  The auditorium was filled with less then half.  I doubt it was widely publicized or announced in the shuls.  We got a personal letter from the Weiner office since my husband had written letters in the past on this topic. I didn't hear Agudah, YI, OU publicize this important meeting regarding America's foreign policy that is infringing on the lives of hundreds of thousands of Jews in Jerusalem Judea and Samaria.  I do believe that Young Israel did have a representative there.  I can not understand this passivity given the knowledge that the citizens of Yesha have had their checkpoints removed putting the lives of 350,000 residents in danger and that no new housing permits have been approved over the last few months in Yesha.  Netanyahu's gov'ts policies are seriously infringing on the quality of life for 350,000 Jews and the Jews in Flatbush or Boro Park are not being directed by their leadership to SPEAK OUT!   The other day Rebbetzin Bracha  Lieberman the mother of Hillel Lieberman HY"D who murdered at Kever Yosef called me up and happen to mention that checkpoints were removed and that in the past her daughter in law had 2 flats on the road.  G-d forbid should this happen now without any army protection.  Aside from the natural birth growth freeze, would most mothers take the chance on traveling under such hostile and dangerous roads?  Giving freedom of movement to Palestinians by taking away checkpoints means providing freedom of movement for terrorists and loss of freedom of movements to Jewish mothers and widows and orphans of terror victims. For this Netanyahu was praised by President OBama!

Why aren't the Rabbonim speaking up?  Unfortunately, the Silence of American Jewry occurred in 1943 as millions of Jews were exterminated and Peter Bergson tried to raise awareness to bomb the train tracks to Auschwitz.  He was successful to bring 400 Rabbis to Washington for 1 march.  Why did they give up so easily when they were ignored by Roosevelt?  We should have raised the roof with massive demonstrations for the lives of fellow Jews!  What good is all our speeches on Ahavas Yisroel and Machsom Peh? When we say we want something we must act in a way that shows that we mean it.  Anyone can say that they want security for Israel and its people but if actions don't prove it and we don't back up our words in action, then such words are merely lip service and meaningless.

Congressman Weiner spoke first.  His  main point was that the Obama Administration should address Palestinian Terrorism rather than pressure Israel. He suggested that rather than give $900,000,000 to the PA unconditionally, we give it incrementally, $100,000,000 at a time and see if they reciprocate  In addition, he and Nadler introduced legislation to stop the Bush Administration proposed 20 Billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia.  "They are paying the bills for the suicide bombers" Mr. Weiner said in a 2007 article in the NY Sun.  He said at the Town Meeting that the Saudi's can not be trusted with the money.

 He also said that we must respect the decisions made by government democracies yet at the same time he noted that Hamas and Hizbollah, terrorist organizations have been elected via the democratic process.  I suppose Weiner would maintain that when it comes to a terror state one can ignore the democratic election and act in self defense and defiance against the decisions of a terror state.  Apparently, he would disagree at the suggestion that one can ignore decisions of a non terror democratic elected government even when it is making decisions against the platform  by which it was elected due to pressure by the American government. 

The government representing Israel,   made a decision against the will of the electorate to annul G--d's Covenant,  This government chose to reject the Divine will, the Holy Torah,  and chose to cave in to American pressure.


Congressman Weiner also said that he is a staunch activist for Jonathan Pollard  and is calling for his clemency by the President.  He said that Jonathan had incompetent lawyers in the past.  But he prefaced by saying that it is a known fact that Jonathan Pollard did a bad thing since he spied for Israel.  Congressman Weiner saw me shake my head when he said that it is a known fact that Pollard did a bad thing when he spied for Israel.

At the meeting there were 5 or 6 questions about USA Policy towards Israel. 

Then there was a question about healhcare reform and the audience forgot about USA Israel Policy. It was a heated discussion about Healthcare.

I was no. 2 to be called upon.     Here were my 3 points.

1) According to the Torah, the Land of Israel is not promised to the seed of Abraham completely and  Ishmael is excluded since it says that Ishael will not inherit with Isaac and the inheritance goes to Isaac only.  This contradicts what Obama said at Cairo.  The Land is not promised to the seed of Isaac completely since Eisav sold his birthright  to Jacob for a pot of Lentils.  It is exclusively promised to the seed of Jacob who is called Israel.  Therefore the people of Israel are the legitimate inheritors of Judea and Samaria and not the Palestinians according to the truth of the Torah.

2) The Palestinians have an ideology worse than Nazi Germany.  Hitler yemach shemo promoted extermination of the Jews, and succeeded with 6,000,000. His partner was the Mufti of Jerusalem, Fatahs ideological Founding Father. Fatah goes one step further than Hilter Yemach shemo and promotes martyrdom, SUICIDE, to be SHAHID, a holy martyr in order to kill Jews.  Many of the schools in the PA have names after such Martyrs, suicide bombers as reported by PMW (Palestinian Media Watch)  So why is America promoting a Palestinian State whose ideology aligns itself with Nazi Germany??

3) Didn't Jonathan Pollard share intelligence of weapons of mass destruction and how would we respond if an ally to America had intelligence regarding the World Trade Center attack and did not share that info with America?

Answer to quesion no 1) was speak to the Rabbonim and that we must honor the decisions of an elected democracy. 

Answer to question 2) He, Congressman Weiner is actively trying to stop aid to Palestinians unless they show some willingness to stop terror

3) Had no clear answer about whether AMerica kept to their end of their treaty with Israel to share intelligence.  How then can we say that he did a bad thing when we don't know the answer to this question.  If America did not keep to their treaty this put Pollard in a moral dilemma forcing him correctly to answer to a higher authority.

After several more questions the topic changed to healthcare, Weiner's baby.  Congressman Weiner was very convincing that the healthcare reform that he is promoting together is the best for America. 

Walking to his car I told Weiner that his arguments sold me on his healthcare arguments for now. However, my final comment to him before he went into his car was, if the Federal gov't takes over healthcare reform this means that much funds will be going to the Federal gov't instead of to private medical insurance companies.  To this he agreed.  Let's say that it will be half of the money going to private insurance companies.  If I know that the government now is spending Tax Payer dollars to promote a destructive Palestinian State whose agenda is the destruction of Israel, how can I trust that the federal gov't will spend this health care money morally.  Perhaps the key decision makers will provide major funds for abortion or mercy killing and other problematic causes in the name of healthcare. I am afraid to trust Obama and his Adminstration  right now even if Medicare is well run at the moment and has been over the last 40 years. To this he replied that regarding healthcare, nothing much will change for 5 years and that will be at the end of Obama's 2nd term if reelected. Then he joked that perhaps the next President after that will be himself (Weiner). 

I for one of course would welcome the change!

Robin Ticker

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ב"ה WORTH REPEATING Hi Robin, My take on the Wiener Town Meeting. It's worth repeating.   He is quite bright & knows how to say the right things. He let's people hear what they want to hear. He let us know that he doesn't agree with the Pres' comment re settlement freeze b/c he doesn't know what is the game plan. He said this different ways to everyone's delight. Of course, one hears what one is set up to hear. I have no doubt that he has worked hard for Israel and deserves recognition for that. But when push comes to shove, he's a Democrat first. As he was leaving, I approached the Congressman. For a brief moment, I believe he let his guard down. I told the Congressman that he was downplaying the negative effect of Obama's comments re the building freeze. I pointed out to him that Israel made numerous concessions over the past 17 years and received nothing in return except a vague promise of American support. Menachem Begin, A"H, said in 1971, "There is no guarantee that can guarantee an international guarantee." And sure enough, each Israeli concession was met by further Arab demands & more US pressure and more terrorism. The Congressman then blurted back, "All I meant was that the President's statement regarding the settlement freeze was nothing more than that. It was a statement and nothing has happened. Nothing has changed." ... I immediately pointed out to him that Obama's statement will have the opposite effect because every unilateral concession by Israel in the past has been met with Arab intransigence. He again repeated that nothing has been lost by Obama's statement. When I again repeated that the Arabs will make more demands because they see their tactics work, he conceded, "Yes, it could have that effect."  I wanted too ask him if he was aware of the building freeze in parts of Y-m, and in all of Yehuda & Shomron and this is having a detrimental effect on the lives of Jews. But he turned to speak to somebody else. I wanted to ask him publicly what I had asked him after the meeting. Unfortunately I was not called on and the meeting became more passionate, not about the mid-east but Health care. It was also dominated by a handful of people who kept calling out with comments re Health care.  Kol Tuv, Aaron Kinsberg FYI: In 2003, Congressmen Wiener was trying to pressure Pres Bush to recognize Y-m as Israel's capital. Ira Forman, of the National Jewish Democratic Council, commenting on the silence of the Jewish community, "Anthony Weiner's efforts highlight the great hypocrisy of these people (the Bush Administration) and it highlights the failure of our community to criticize a president when it's appropriate." Well Congressman Wiener, it's time to criticize this President even if he is a Democrat.

Touring Israel with Mike Huckabee by Helen Freedman

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Apparently, after reading Helen Freedman's report, Governor Huckabee said many important statements of which I totally agree. In fact, I have nothing but the utmost respect for this man. He is a mensch and a true friend of Israel. But the following observation is very painful to me as a Jew. Why do Bible believing Christians assert the right of the Jews to their homeland and the Jews themselves are not assertive?

Let us work to change this and raise the Jewish Voice!

Huckabee spoke about American Christians' very deep support for Israel. He believes there is more unity amongst Evangelicals for Israel than there is among Jews. He describes the Christian connection to Judaism as one that is totally genetic, "part of its DNA," and that because of this, Bible-believing Christians assert the right of the Jews to their homeland.

Why can't the Jews?

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4. First-Person Account: Touring Israel with Mike Huckabee
by Helen Freedman

A first-person account of a US presidential candidate's trip to Israel by a prominent Jewish-American activist reveals a calm man with strong principles.

When I received the invitation from Shani Hikind at the Ateret Cohanim/Jerusalem Reclamation Project (JRP) to accompany Republican Presidential candidate and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee on a mission to Israel, I agreed immediately.

Having listened to Huckabee speak at the many debates held amongst the candidates, and being a fan of his Fox television show and his ABC radio shows, I knew that traveling with Mike would be a unique and extraordinary experience. It was all that and more!!

I trust that the messages he brings back, which are strong contradictions of the Obama policies, will help educate the general public about the true situation that exists in Israel today, and the necessity of keeping Israel a viable ally of America.





I arrived at Newark Airport late Saturday night, August 15, and waited at the gate to board my El Al midnight flight to Israel. An unassuming man walked into the area all alone. There was no entourage, no guards, no secretaries, and no press. When I looked again, I realized it was Mike Huckabee. I approached him, introduced myself, and told him I was part of the group with which he would be traveling. He was as gracious as could be, agreed to take some books and materials that I had for him, and posed for a photo with me. From that time on, he greeted me as Helen whenever we met.

He had that same warm quality with everyone in the group, remembering each one's name and greeting each one with a smile. This calm, affable, genuine quality about him continued throughout our three-day trip in Israel, despite the constant pressure of the media surrounding him, pushing their way forward, shouting out questions, and following him everywhere.



The trip was under the tireless guidance of JRP Representative in Jerusalem, Daniel Luria. Our first day was concentrated in Jerusalem, with a fascinating tour of the City of David, where ancient excavations dating back 3,200 years have been discovered. This was followed by trips through the former Yemenite village in Silwan, mostly Arab but with a renewed Jewish presence as there was decades ago, a visit to Maaleh HaZeitim, a flourishing Jewish development on the Mount of Olives, and a delightful stop at Kidmat Tzion, another Jewish development, adjacent to the ugly wall that cuts through Jerusalem and separates Abu Dis from the rest of Jerusalem.

While most of us enjoyed a picnic lunch in the lovely shaded forest area adjacent to Kidmat Tzion, Mike Huckabee sat in the strong sunshine, in front of a stunning view of the Old City, while he gave interview after interview to the omnipresent press.



Huckabee's remarks to the press have been well-recorded, but there were some particular comments that stand out in my memory. He insisted that his visit was not meant to be a provocation. He believes that two sovereign nations cannot control the same piece of territory, and that though the PA deserves to have a state, "it can't be in Israel." He affirms the unique relationship between the U.S. and Israel which he describes as "organic," with both having experienced the same struggle and victory. He also spoke about his experiences growing up in the deep South with segregated schools, which makes him very sensitive to issues of discrimination and prejudice.



When asked about the "occupation," Mike Huckabee responded brilliantly. He described Israel's government as one of "accommodation, not occupation." He spoke about Israel's efforts to bring all types of services to the Arab communities such as schools, infra-structure development, hospitals, and welfare payments.



The Moskowitz family, owners of the Shepherd Hotel in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of eastern Jerusalem, hosted a lovely cocktail reception on Monday evening at the hotel. Although the hotel is located near the National Headquarters of the Israeli police, near the tomb of Shimon HaTzadik, and adjacent to the Hebrew University and Hadassah Hospital on Mt. Scopus, the purchase of the hotel by a Jewish family, with the purpose of converting it to apartments for Jews, had set off a storm of protest. As we arrived at the hotel, we saw the protestors from Peace Now screaming their opposition to Huckabee's presence. Huckabee's reaction to their insults and noise was that their ability to behave in that fashion simply demonstrated Israel's democratic character, where free speech, even if ugly and unwanted, was fully tolerated.



On Tuesday, the former governor was given a tour of Maaleh Adumim and the E1 corridor to Jerusalem. The town's mayor, Benny Kashriel, explained that the population of nearly 40,000 people in the city provided 2,000 jobs to Arabs, and that freezing construction meant putting Arabs out of work. Huckabee agreed that Obama's policies are not in sync with either his campaign promises, or his assurances made to AIPAC of his continued support for previous understandings regarding Israel's settlement situation. Huckabee asserted that Israelis must be allowed to make their own decisions.



He continued along these lines as we toured Shomron/Samaria with David HaIvri. We visited Beit El, Mt. Gerizim overlooking Shechem (Nablus), Har Bracha, and Givot Olam. In each place he met hard-working, devoted people who love the Land of Israel and dedicate their lives to its preservation. Gershon Mesika, the head of the Shomron Regional Council, asked Huckabee to do what he could to encourage the Jewish people to love Israel and thus restore the Temple to Jerusalem.



Huckabee spoke about American Christians' very deep support for Israel. He believes there is more unity amongst Evangelicals for Israel than there is among Jews. He describes the Christian connection to Judaism as one that is totally genetic, "part of its DNA," and that because of this, Bible-believing Christians assert the right of the Jews to their homeland.



Huckabee suggested that Obama's positions on Israel have brought anxiety to Congress, and that Democrats don't want to be seen to be in conflict with Israel. He reminded us of Reagan's bombing of Libya, and stated, "Abandoning the Israel/U.S. relationship would be the undoing of both countries." Responding to questions about defensible borders for Israel, Huckabee maintained that there would be none if control were turned over to Hamas.



Referring to the years of peace processes, he reminded us of Einstein's definition of insanity, namely, "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Huckabee recommends starting with a blank slate and seeing what is realistically possible; "there is no point in talking about a plan that is a proven failure." Although he recognized that he is out of the mainstream in his beliefs, he says he prefers that to the position of always having to check the prevailing winds.



Asserting that Jews should have the right to live wherever they choose in their homeland, he commented, "If Arabs didn't want to lose land, they shouldn't have started wars." He reminded us that wars and history have caused so many lands to change hands and populations.



That evening, back in Jerusalem, there was a cocktail reception at the very beautiful home of Mr. Guma Aguiar in Yemin Moshe. The former governor was awarded photos and plaques for his deep devotion to Israel as the Jewish homeland. Many Members of Knesset and other dignitaries were there, along with the press of course, and once again Huckabee displayed his modesty, equanimity, and sincerity as he graciously accepted the awards and once again pledged his devotion to Israel.



(Pictured below:) Huckabee with Rabbi Wolpe at Gush Katif Museum



By Wednesday, August 19, work commitments began to intrude in the planned schedule. Though he did not make it to the Gush Katif "resettlement camp" in Nitzan (see below), Huckabee did get to the Gush Katif museum in Jerusalem, where he met Rivka Goldschmidt, an evacuee from the destroyed Gush Katif communities. He spoke to her earnestly, listening to her description of what it had been like to have led a useful and productive life in a beautiful home and community and then to have it all torn away and destroyed. Four years later, only 15 percent of the 400 farmers of Gush Katif have received proper compensation. There were 50 greenhouses in Gush Katif; today, the former residents have only three. People are still paying off the mortgages on their destroyed homes, and must pay rent for the caravans in which they live in the "refugee camps." Huckabee seemed deeply moved by what he heard, as well as by the vivid photos and powerfully emotional film of the expulsion.



He was unable to continue with us on our visit to Nitzan, the largest of the Jewish "refugee camps," where we met with Dror Vanunu and Rachel and Moshe Saperstein, former residents of N'vei Dekalim. After a lovely lunch at the visitors' center, we traveled on to Hevron to enjoy the spirituality always present in this city of our Matriarchs and Patriarchs. David Wilder once again served as our valuable guide.



At our farewell dinner at the "Between the Arches" restaurant in the Old City, Huckabee was there to greet each one of us. He shook hands with us individually, and posed for photos. I spoke to him briefly about his plans to visit Israel again in late January/February with a Christian group. I reminded him that Herbert Zweibon, chairman of my organization, Americans for a Safe Israel/AFSI, has always worked closely with the Christian community and would work with him on his planned visit. He indicated that he would look forward to discussing this further.



Mike Huckabee did not stay to dine with us; he fought the Jerusalem traffic that erev Rosh Chodesh Elul night simply to say farewell personally to each one of us who had accompanied him on this memorable trip. He then left for the airport and his return flight to New York. I look forward to watching his personal reports on Fox News and listening to his radio commentaries on Israel.

I trust that the messages he brings back, which are strong contradictions of the Obama policies, will help educate the general public about the true situation that exists in Israel today, and the necessity of keeping Israel a viable ally of America.



Helen Freedman is Executive Director of Americans For a Safe Israel/AFSI - 212-828-2424; afsi@rcn.com
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Fwd: West Bank: slowly, determinedly, settlers bid to build new town by Rory McCarthy

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"People like to present us like crazy lunatics," said Matar. "But one day these people in the West will see. The Muslims are taking over there too. You better be on our side for your sake, but you guys in Europe are not. Those who curse Israel will be cursed, and those who bless Israel will be blessed."

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Dear Friends,

Rory McCarthy of the Guardian spent a morning with us in Shdema. Below is what he wrote.

Enjoy!

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West Bank: slowly, determinedly, settlers bid to build new town
Rory McCarthy, August 23, 2009
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/23/west-bank-israeli-settlements

In the first of a series of exclusive reports examining settlements in the West Bank and their role in the middle east peace process, Rory McCarthy meets a group of Israelis who want to 'redeem' a patch of land near the Palestinian town of Beit Sahour.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/audioslideshow/2009/aug/23/israel-settlements-shdema
Audio slideshow: 'This land belongs to the Jewish people'


Early in the morning, Nadia Matar drove to the hills south of Jerusalem, near the Palestinian town of Beit Sahour, and turned into a dusty, unmarked road. There she planted a sign which read "Welcome to Shdema". She drove on, stopping every few metres along the route to jam into the rocky ground a series of fluttering blue and white Israeli flags. Israeli soldiers let her pass unhindered as she drove up to the concrete ruins of what was until a few years ago the Israeli military base of Shdema.

Here, just a stone's throw from Palestinian homes and only a few minutes from the city of Bethlehem, Matar and her friends are intent on building a Jewish community, the next settlement outpost in the occupied West Bank.

It is a glaring challenge to the Obama administration, which is trying to halt all Israeli settlement growth as a precursor to renewed peace talks. But recent history suggests it is the highly-motivated settlers like Matar, 43, a mother of six born in Belgium and now living in the settlement of Efrat, who may in the end triumph on this particular dusty patch of land.

Tomorrow, the Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu arrives in London for a series of key meetings, including four hours of discussions on Wednesday with the White House's special envoy, George Mitchell, and talks with Gordon Brown tomorrow. The continued colonisation of the West Bank, an extraordinarily successful project over the past 40 years, will dominate the agenda. Settlement on occupied land is regarded as illegal by the rest of the international community, but nearly 500,000 Jewish settlers live in east Jerusalem and the West Bank. Shdema is even beyond Israel's West Bank barrier, which runs deep into Palestinian territory and which many believe will one day be the final border of Israel.

Matar's goal is "redemption of the land". In her view, the land on which the Palestinian homes sit belongs by Biblical and historical right to the Jewish people and is, for now, "temporarily under Arab occupation". She is trying to build a "Jewish Shdema" and to prevent the land from remaining Palestinian. After the military evacuated the base there were plans, since shelved, to build a hospital for Palestinians. "They want more pieces of land that belong to the Jews. They want to take it away from us," Matar said.

"The Land of Israel was given by God to the people of Israel," she said. "Some will tell you God gave it to us, others will say Jewish history of 4,000 years is our historical right … You don't have to be a religious Englishman to see London belongs to the British."

This is a rare insight into how outposts get built: with determined settlers and eventually complicit Israeli authorities.

At first, after the army withdrew from the base three years ago, soldiers closed the area off and prevented all settlers from approaching. But the settlers sneaked in and kept coming. Eventually Matar, a leader of the group Women in Green, and her supporters convinced the military to allow them in just once a week, on a Friday. They cleaned the buildings up, painted over graffiti, tidied the rooms and held workshops and discussions. Sometimes they have stayed the night, sometimes they have been allowed to come twice a week and eventually, they believe, settlers will begin to live here.

Similar struggles take place every week on other hilltops across the West Bank. All this is happening even though the Israeli government says in public it will allow no new settlements.

"At the beginning we fought against the army to come up here," said Matar. "But when they saw we were adamant they let us come on a Friday … But it's not enough for us. We don't want to ask permission to be in our homeland."

Now every time they come the army far from preventing them in fact provides them with security, deploying several soldiers and armoured vehicles but not interfering with their activities. In April the military also halted the construction of a Palestinian park, part funded by the US government, because it was at the foot of the hill claimed by the settlers at Shdema.

Already the settlers have produced a glossy brochure with architectural plans of the Shdema they would like to see: it has grassy lawns, lines of trees, a cultural centre and a small but thriving Jewish community.

On this day around 30 settlers of different ages gathered, among them several children, a rabbi and at least two women carrying discreetly holstered pistols. They sat in one room on plastic chairs as Tomer Karazi, 34, a rabbi with five children, discussed a Biblical text and the importance of building a new village in this Biblical land.

Later Karazi said he and his wife Hannah were ready to move from their home in the settlement of Nokdim to Shdema as soon as possible. "It's our duty not to escort the process of redemption from the outside but to be involved and active from the inside," he said. "We don't need to wait for things like water and electricity. And we really love the place. It's beautiful."

Then out came large tubs of white emulsion paint and several brushes and the group began painting over the grey concrete walls, stopping occasionally for glasses of water and slices of watermelon.

Yosef Ziggerman, 18, a settler from Efrat had been involved in several other, often unsuccessful, attempts to establish new outposts on nearby hills. "I believe every single piece is ours and I don't see many pieces of land as beautiful as this," he said. "We aren't doing anything crazy or fanatic. We're painting and making it look nice."

Several spoke of their frustration with other Israelis who enjoy the more secular lifestyle of cities like Tel Aviv or Eilat but who seemed not to understand or endorse the settlers' millenarian ideology and their effort to claim the West Bank as their own. Since Israel withdrew its settlers from Gaza four years ago, many fear more compromises and would rather take a more radical and practical stand to expand Jewish settlement of the West Bank.

They described themselves as a frontline in a wider struggle against what they see as radical Islam, insisting that settler outposts protect the larger settlement blocs, which in turn protect Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, and which in turn protect the Western world.

"People like to present us like crazy lunatics," said Matar. "But one day these people in the West will see. The Muslims are taking over there too. You better be on our side for your sake, but you guys in Europe are not. Those who curse Israel will be cursed, and those who bless Israel will be blessed."


 

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Fwd: Activists telephone conference, this Thursday, August 27 at 7:30pm EDT

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Activists telephone conference, this Thursday, August 27 at 7:30pm EDT

Dial-in Access Number: 1-218-862-7200
Conference Code: 720504

The point of this phone conference is to help spark a grassroots campaign, against Obama's attempt to destroy the communities of Judea and Samaria. Specific actions will be recommended and Jews and lovers of Israel across the US will be urged to start mobilizing and acting immediately.
Up to 500 will be able to participate in the call.

Jewish Press -Frontpage Headlines - Important News Favoring Obama? Obama - No Second Thoughts by Jonathan Toban

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Dear Publishers, Editors, Journalists and Rabbinic Leaders:

This is In response to Anonymous who commented on a post I sent around and posted on my blog,   entitled "Fwd: Stop the Presses: Blood Libel Goes Mainstream...":This post was critical of the Jewish Press for their front page headlines and for using JTA as their news service.  The Jewish Press is not alone is presenting a slant that is not helpful to the Jewish people and the Jewish Land, Israel.  A Hamodia post used an AP  news service that did not go into detail why Jews disliked Mary Robinson. You call that objective journalism?????  Maybe an outcry from Hamodia and the Jewish Press widely circulated religious Jewish Papers, could have alerted Obama that honoring Mary Robinson deeply offends majority of Jews especially if Jews understand the  role she played at Durban.  While the News was still fresh, Jewish activism might have made a difference. However, Hamodia did not report what happened at Durban and Robinson's role and their readership who only wants "kosher news" had no clue about Mary Robinson's antisemitic connection to Durban and naturally didn't respond.  This lack of reporting also reflects the sleeping Jewish Leadership who take a Silent passive role in seeing disturbing current events unfold. Perhaps if the Jewish Media would report about it alerting the public, the public will then wakeup the sleeping Leadership.

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Um, maybe the Jewish Press highlighted the sory about obama getting 92 percent of support from Jewish Democrats is because... it HAPPENS TO BE AN IMPORTANT STORY. Should we pretend it's not true? The front page story in the Jewish Press is a NEWS story, not an editorial, so it's perfectly consistent for a newspaper to run a story like that while at the same time opposing Obama's policies. The fact that you don't understand this indicates you know nothing about journalism -- as does the fact that you keep glorifying Arutz Sheva. Look, I agree with most of the Arutz-Sheva/religious Zionist agenda, but Aryuz Sheva is not a reliable news source. They're advocates of a certain ideology -- an ideology I happen to share -- and they skew their "reporting" to fit their agenda in almost every story.



Posted by Anonymous to Shemittah Rediscovered at 9:57 PM

My response to Anonymous updated:

There are many important stories in the news.  I am sure Obama has done many wonderful things in his life.  He might act or be a wonderful father and husband and a paper can choose to have these positive images of him on the front cover.   Every news article has a slant. One news headline can be "Jewish Democrats Still in Love with Obama" and that 92 percent of American Democrat Jews favor Obama and that  there was nearly unanimous approval of Obama's efforts according to a survey of 500 self-identified Democrats  with a margin of error plus minus 4% as was in the front page headline of the Jewish Press, Friday August 21, 2009.  The Jewish Press could have chosen  a different  headline that reads "Majority of Israeli Jews feel that  Obama can not be trusted to Safeguard Israel's security" and that only 7 percent of Israeli Jews believe that Obama is pro Israel and that 60 percent believe that Obama can not be trusted to take Israel security into account and safeguard them in his diplomatic efforts. (Tami Steinmetz Center for Peace Research as reported in Arutz 7 and published by 5Times Jewish Times August 14, 2009 page 57 in article headlined Survey: 66% of Jews Say Jerusalem Sovereign Indisputable by Gil Ronen, Arutz7. The poll surveyed 512 people and has a margin of error of 4.5 percent)  Perhaps both headlines are accurate and important yet they send 2 very different messages. It seems to me that the Jewish Press has their agenda as well!  On front pages their headlines clearly reflect Obama Administration in a positive light and their inner pages reflect their true inner feelings which reflect a wariness about President Obama.  It seems to me that it's not so much hypocrisy on the part of the Jewish Press but a desire to on the surface find favor in the society they find themselves.

  However, there is an obligation of  religious Jewish papers of wide circulation to spread the knowledge to those who happen to glance at  the headlines, that the Obama Administration is truly acting in ways that is hurtful to Israel's security rather than that Obama is a favorite among Jews. 

One can be an "objective journalist" and at the same time be a soldier in the War of the Media. There is a Media War going on and Jewish Media unfortunately is fighting for the wrong side. Saying that Obama is a favorite of Jews (who will take notice that the headline says Jewish Democrats and not simply Jews?) does not send the message that Jews are concerned under the Obama Administration about the security  threat to Israel.  And if Jews are not concerned, then it is your job as educators of the news to inform the public, bring them the news,  and make them aware about why they should indeed be concerned and hopefully motivate them to act.  We have that obligation to ourselves, our children and to the 350,000  or so Jews living in Judea and Samaria within rocket range.  Reporting the News carries with it a moral and social responsibility. .

Unfortunately it deeply pains one like myself, who was made to feel isolated  and a minority by this headline,  to read that 92 percent of Democratic Jews couldn't care less about Israel's security since apparently they are still "in love" with Obama.

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No second thoughts
August 18, 2009
Jonathan Tobin, THE JERUSALEM POST

When asked about whether US President Barack Obama was rethinking his
decision to give Mary Robinson his nation's highest civilian award, a
spokesman for the White House was quoted as saying that the president
"had no second thoughts" about giving the former Irish president the
Presidential Medal of Freedom. Indeed, the ceremony went off without a
hitch and nary a discouraging word as Robinson and 15 other less
controversial recipients got their medals amid a blizzard of
presidential praise.

Obama lauded Robinson, the woman who presided over the United Nation's
anti-Semitic hate fest at the 2001 Durban Conference on racism, as "an
advocate for the hungry and the hunted, the forgotten and the
ignored," and ignored the widespread criticism of the honoree from a
wide range of Jewish groups as well as some members of Congress.

Robinson is a longtime foe of the Jewish state and even today holds
the post of honorary president of Oxfam, an NGO that gained publicity
last week for firing actress Kirstin Davis of Sex and the City fame as
its spokeswoman because she also represents Ahava, whose Dead Sea
cosmetics are considered off-limits by Israel-haters.

Though the dustup over Robinson cast something of a shadow on an event
that is almost always non-controversial (because the White House
generally eliminates questionable candidates), the dispute did not
generate a great deal of publicity. It was Robinson's good fortune
that the weeks leading up to the ceremony were dominated by a divisive
national debate over health care reform.

Even Obama's most virulent critics on the right were too preoccupied
with the debate over the president's massive expansion of government
power for it to register much of an impact on the nation's political
Richter scale.

BUT FRIENDS of Israel, especially those Jewish Democrats who have been
doing their best to ignore the White House's increasingly belligerent
tone toward the Jewish state, would do well to note what happened with
Robinson. Obama honored a virulent enemy of Israel, someone who bore a
great deal of responsibility for Durban, one of the most disgraceful
episodes in the history of an institution - the UN - that is no
stranger to disgrace. And he has gotten away with it with hardly a
scratch on his reputation.

Though some will dismiss this incident as a minor mistake that will
soon be forgotten, the main lesson to be learned here may not be the
one about presidential award nominations needing to be more thoroughly
vetted. Rather, it may be that as much as this was an unforced error
on the part of the White House, what Obama and his advisers may take
away from this incident is how easily they were able to dismiss a
nearly universal Jewish dismay.

In the weeks to come, the president and his foreign-policy team are
said to be preparing what we are told is a new Middle East peace plan.
The upshot of this exercise may be some sort of peace conference
doomed to certain failure because neither of the two leading
Palestinian factions - the supposedly more moderate Fatah that runs
the Palestinian Authority and the Islamist terrorists of Hamas - have
any real interest in a peace deal with Israel.

As Robert Malley, the former Clinton administration staffer who is a
prominent critic of Israel, wrote in The New York Times last week, for
either group "to accept Israel as a Jewish state would legitimize the
Zionist enterprise that brought about their tragedy. It would render
the Palestinian national struggle at best meaningless, at worst
criminal." Thus, the only possible purpose of the Obama initiative
will be to attempt again to bludgeon Israel into making concessions to
Palestinians that are uninterested in peace.

THE ADMINISTRATION is also still committed to "engagement" with Iran's
despotic Islamist regime and continues to appear uninterested in any
serious effort to stop Teheran from gaining nuclear capability. Though
both Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Defense Secretary Robert
Gates have talked about giving the Iranians until after the General
Assembly of the United Nations meets this fall before attempting to
organize more stringent sanctions, this is not a credible stance since
such efforts will not only be undermined by lackluster European
support and open opposition from China and Russia, they will almost
certainly be too late to stop Teheran's nuclear timetable.

On both these issues, despite their hopes that Obama may ultimately
step back from a full-throttle battle, the pro-Israel community may
soon find itself looking into the business end of a White House
propaganda machine that will feel confident about dismissing concerns
about Israel's security in much the same way that they have trashed
opponents of their health care plan.

There are those who take the point of view that the willingness of
mainstream groups such as the Anti-Defamation League and others to
allow any daylight to be seen between themselves and the White House
on the Robinson affair is a sign that Jewish spines are stiffening in
response to Obama's attitude on Jewish security issues. But that
strikes me as over-optimistic at best since left-wing groups with
growing clout among administration circles, such as J Street,
dutifully supported the president on the issue. So long as his leftist
base sticks with him, it's doubtful that the president will worry
about support from mainstream liberals who are loathe to make common
cause with Obama's critics.

Though they may have been surprised that any major Jewish groups had
the chutzpah to oppose the president even on this issue, the
nonchalance with which Obama and his apologists road roughshod over
any opposition to the award may well have taught the White House that
they can get away with anything.

There may have been some who thought Robinson's award would prove to
be Obama's Bitburg moment - a symbolic episode that forever tarnished
Ronald Reagan's reputation even among his most ardent Jewish
supporters. But while Reagan paid a heavy price for offending Jewish
sensibilities by honoring dead SS members at a German cemetery, Obama
escaped from the Robinson award with few scars and little media
attention to the story.

Far from serving as a warning to the White House to tread carefully in
the future when it comes to Israel or the Jews, Mary Robinson's medal
may turn out instead to be a trial run for far worse outrages yet to
come from this president.

The writer is executive editor of Commentary Magazine where he
contributes to its blog Contentions at www.commentarymagazine.com
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