Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Re:JTA responds to JTA Treif News Source. Switch to Arutz7 and other authentic Jewish Kosher News

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Dear Uriell Heilman of JTA,

Thank you for your response about how you stand by your reporting.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Uriel Heilman <uheilman@jta.org> wrote:
http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/article/2009/10/02/1008266/the-acid-test-we-stand-by-our-reporting
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Uriel Heilman
Managing Editor, JTA
Tel. 212 643-1890 x209


Mr. Heilman, Reporters pick and choose their stories. 

10,000 peoples lives were uprooted, their homes destroyed, synagogues, playgrounds, cultural centers in Gush Katif were bulldozed. Today as we speak their pain is still raw.  The wound is festering.  Beit Hashalom is merely another inflicted pain on this festering wound.

 A Nazi State that glorifies martyrs iis being slated to take the place of settlers in Judea and Samaria, who love the Land and their communities, the same kind who grew bug free lettuce, tomatoes etc.  and flowers in Gush Katif. 

The Mufti of Jerusalem was a partner with Hitler and he is the founding ideological  father of Fatah. 

Maybe you should visit Yad Veshem or review the pictures of Palestinians massacring the 3 soldiers. Why don't you report on the rapes and dismemberment of body parts in the massacre of 1929 to the Jewish Community of Hebron when they did nothing to provoke the Arabs and rather befriended them?  Compare their violence to the Jewish Violence.  Compare the hate speeches of their Leaders prior to the Massacre in Hebron  and the speeches of hte Jewish Leaders in Hebron while Beit Hashalom was in the process of being dismantled and the families expelled.

Why is your reporting so one sided?  I stand by my charge that  some of the news from JTA  is Treif reporting and that all authentic Jewish News Sources should choose their Jewish News from sources that reflect our Torah and our Biblical Heritage.

Why are you so blind to see the whole picture. What will  it take to wake you up?  Will the only way you  can relate to the settlers is if  someone comes to  destroy your home, chas vechalila, and you will find yourself forced to swallow your emotions, restrain your feelings so that others will report (or not report on your good behavior) and your ability not to be violent in the face of their "legal rights" to your home. 

Of course we would never want you to experience the Arab Violence as did the Jews in the 1929 Massacre. 

Arabs have a history of lying for PR and public sympathy.  They  have a history of blood libels and using Jewish compassion as their weapon.  They have a history of barbarity and cruelty. Just go on the PMW website (Itamar Marcus,) and report in JTA what they are saying iin Fatah news and teaching in Fatah schools.  Let your readers know after whom do they name their schools?

 I would strongly suspect any reports about acid throwing Jewish settlers.  I have lived and been n the Nationalist  circles and I can attest that the teachers in these circles do not encourage acid throwing against ARabs.  Never, in the many lectures and shiurim have I heard this being preached. Rabbi's do emphasize the Bible which  clearly teaches that the Land of Israel is G-ds gift to the Jewish people and that we in turn are obligated to keep the commandments in the Torah.  Jews also have the obligation to defend our Land and Protect our lives.

I suppose you wish to pick and choose which commandments in your opinion is "civilized" and which is not.  Perhaps, a certain number of the commandments you might find distasteful.

My guess is that  you have serious issues with some commandments of the Torah and since it is not political correct to admit that you have issues with what is written in the Torah since it might offend too many religious Jews who subscribe to your news, so you conveniently target the "fringe right wing fanatics, extremists,etc." and portray  them as extreme fanatics who hate Arabs.

Sincerely, Robin Ticker







Robin Ticker wrote:
bs"d

From Mattot Arim:

Whose Fault is it that We All Hate Settlers?
Hatred -- of any group -- does not drop out of the sky like rain. It is cultivated. Let's ask the JTA (the news agency which supplies most American Jewish newspapers) not to cultivate hate and not to falsely accuse settlers of criminal deeds.
 
Dear Jewish Telegraph Agency, Your website  http://jta.org/about  states that the JTA strives to be "the definitive, trusted global source of ...current events". But this past year you printed a series of 3 one-sidedly negative articles against settlers which does not fit this description.
 
I am told that Mattot Arim www.mattotarim.organ Israeli grassroots organization, has approached you several times regarding the most distasteful "fact" presented in your series:  "[R]adical settlers ...have ...thrown acid at Israeli soldiers" http://jta.org/news/article/2009/06/24/1005829/behind-the-headlines-radical-jewish-settlers. I understand that Mattot Arim told you they have carefully looked into this matter with the Hebron spokesperson, the Shomron Council spokesperson, Women in Green founder Nadia Matar, Gush Katif spokesperson and others and all believe that this allegation is not factual.
 
I also understand that you (the JTA) have claimed that an un-named Israel Police spokesperson made this allegation to you and you merely reported it. Could you, the JTA, possibly confirm this to me by return email. This will allow the un-named spokesperson's behavior to be raised in the Israeli Knesset or cabinet by Mattot Arim. Could you also write to the Israel Police, inform them that the information they gave you has been challenged and ask them to corroborate their allegation by providing the JTA in writing some elementary details regarding their allegation (copy of the chemical analysis performed if any, who (names, dates) purportedly witnessed these events, were any soldiers purportedly injured and if so where are the medical reports, etc.).
 
Or, since it's Yom Kippur season -- the traditional apology season -- could you simply publish a correction and apology indicating that no facts are available to support this allegation so it is hereby retracted until further notice! I look forward to hearing from you, sincerely, Robin Ticker

 

Dear Jewish Print Media,

You are Jewish aren't you?... and some of you are even Orthodox and Chareidi....

Why  bring your news from treif sources even if they call themselves Jewish?  Can't you syndicate from the following Kosher sources regarding Settlements in Judea and Samaria? A Palestinian State has its ideological partner with Nazi Germany.  Settlement in Judea and Samaria has its ideological roots in the Torah.  Why isn't your news waking up the Jewish People that the Land of Israel is our entitlement based on our Jewish Heritage?  Front Page Coverage of Women in Green and Matot Arim will tell the authentic Jewish news. Netanyahus handshake with Abbas is newsworthy but so is the fact that he is willing to negotiate away Land that does not belong to him making this agreement as well as Oslo null and void based on Biblical entitlement. Freezing Jewish Settlement in Judea and Samaria  and removing outposts indicates weakness in our ideological religious and historical conviction and claim to our Land. (The Land belongs to G-d and He chooses to whom he will give it.  First Rashi of Breishit). Yasher Koach to 5TJewish Times for their news coverage....

GOOD and Kosher NEWS SOURCES

Women In Green  Unbelievable!

Mattot Arim  Unbelievable!


Yosef and Melody Hartuv, Love of the Land,
http://www.eish-l.org subscribe to their newsletter
Israel National News - Arutz7

The David S. Wyman Institute forHolocaust Studies

Act for America - Brigitte Gabriel

Palestinian Media Watch , www.palwatch.org,
Independant Media Review Analysis _IMRA
http://israelbehindthenews.com - David Bedein

http://www.afsi.org/OUTPOST/outpost.htm - link to past issues

Outpost July August 2009- (12 pages long, very worthwhile reading)

www.yeshabulletin.com (excellent online news source )

http://yeshabulletin.blogspot.com/


Dear fellow activist, amv"sh

Please send your own letter to the above media and let them know that you'd appreciate front page non skewed, objective media coverage that reflects the position of the settlers and Torah
cc: mattotarim@gmail.com and faigerayzel@gmail.com

Gmar Chasima Tova! Gmar Chatima Tova!




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Thursday, October 08, 2009

Fwd: PICTURES FROM LONDON ....THIS IS BEYOND SCARY



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Date: Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:41 PM
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To: Robin Ticker <faigerayzel@gmail.com>

Why would anyone think that we should be at war with such nice, peaceful
Muslims?!

All Christians need to know. You need to forward this one to everyone!
These pictures tell it all!

Is this a sign of possible Religious Wars ???

Muslims have stated that England will be the first country they take over!


These are pictures not shown on American TV or in American Newspapers ,

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55 Timberlane Drive
Toronto, ON, M3H 1J3


Fwd: Shall we outlaw the Jewish siddur (prayerbook)? by Nadia Matar Shall we outlaw Torah and Jewish Holidays? (ps by faigerayzel)

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My supportive comments to Nadia's letter to radio host Tali Lipkin-Shahak of Galei Tsahal who suggested one should "limit the freedom of speech of the fringe right wing Jewish extremists who call for the building of the Temple" :

While we are at it.... Shall we then outlaw the study of Torah which is constantly referencing the Temple Mount.  How about outlawing Rosh Hashana when we read about the Akeida  that occurred on Temple Mount and Yom Kippur whose Musaf prayer talks about the Avoda of the Kohanim and the Kohein Gadol that takes place on Temple Mount and the Holiday of Sukkot which involves pilgramage to Jerusalem to offer sacrifices on Temple Mount.  I suppose for Tali Lipking Shahak there is no point in remembering all of that. It might incite the "right wing Jewish extremists" to try to "chadesh Yameinu KeKedem", restore what we once had. 

Once we start with limiting  freedom of speech of "right wing Jewish extremists"  who wish to rebuild the Temple there are no end of possibilities..


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Shall we outlaw the Jewish siddur (prayerbook)?
by Nadia Matar

Translation of Hebrew letter written to radio host Tali Lipkin-Shahak of Galei Tsahal:

Shalom Tali,

In reaction to your interview with Minister Dan Meridor this morning on Galei Tsahal (Wednesday, October 7, at about 9:10 am) in which you suggested that one should "limit the freedom of speech of the fringe right wing Jewish extremists who call for the building of the Temple" and thus incite the Arabs to violence, I would like to give you an idea:

Why don't you suggest instead to make the Jewish siddur (prayerbook) illegal for its "inciteful" content? As I assume you know, a very large portion of the prayers talk about our longing and the need to rebuild the Temple.

No, not a few "Jewish extremists" talk about rebuilding the Temple but millions of Jews, in Israel and abroad, who pray three times a day, longing for the rebuilding of the Temple.

"Sheyibane Bet Hamikdash" (May the Temple be built) are not empty verses we say, but we actually mean it!

So, Tali, as someone who seems to worry very much about the rights of the poor, poor, violent Arabs and not about the right of the Jews to their holiest place, which is the Temple Mount and not the Kotel (as even Meridor pointed out to you in the interview), you have two options:

·  to suggest making the siddur illegal
·  to put in administrative detention millions of Jews who might have the hutzpa to pray from that "inciteful" prayerbook

All this, of course, in order to make sure not to upset the feelings of the very sensitive Arabs.

It is with great sadness that we still have radio hosts who don't understand that we are at war with a bitter Arab enemy. That Arab enemy davka does understand what Uri Zvi Greenberg wrote years ago: "Whoever controls the Temple Mount, controls all of Erets Israel"

I would love to have a cup of coffee with you and give you a tour of areas that you probably never set foot in, the mountains of Judea and Samaria, where our forefathers lived and where all of Jewish history took place. From the mountains of Judea and Samaria, we who live here watch over you down there in Gush Dan. The fact that we live here in our Biblical Homeland is what protects you Tel Avivians and the rest of the country, and prevents you from being bombarded by Arab katyushot and missiles.

With warm wishes of a chag sameach and fervent prayers that G-d will give us the opportunity to rebuild our Temple on the Temple Mount,

Nadia Matar
Women in Green
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Monday, October 05, 2009

Want to Save Gilad Shalit? Who doesn't? Terrorist using this to their advantage to increase terror.



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Subject: Hamas repeats threat to capture more "Shalits"
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Bulletin
Oct. 4, 2009
Palestinian Media Watch
Click here to view on PMW's new web site

Hamas repeats threat to capture more "Shalits"

Khaled Mashaal repeats message of Hamas video animations
mocking Israeli hostage Gilad Shalit
 and threatening more kidnappings

by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik

Following the release of the Gilad Shalit video in exchange for 20 Palestinian female terrorists who were involved in attempted murder, Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal has repeated the organization's threats to kidnap more soldiers. Hamas sees the release as vindication of its kidnapping-for-hostage policy.

Mashaal said:
"The resistance, which has succeeded in capturing Gilad Shalit, keeping him alive and well for more than three years, giving him proper treatment, and excelling in conducting indirect negotiations, is capable of capturing [another] Shalit and [another] Shalit and [another] Shalit, until not a single prisoner will remain in the enemy's jails."
["Palestine Information Center" - Hamas website, Oct. 2, 2009]
 
The following documentation was publicized by PMW in its bulletin of Sept. 30th, 2009:
 
Two video animations showing hostage Gilad Shalit as Hamas's prime leverage for prisoners' release have appeared on Hamas TV. Both applaud the Palestinian kidnapping-for-hostage policy, and advocate more kidnappings of Israeli soldiers.

One animation shows a Hamas child using a stone (symbolizing Gilad Shalit) to scrape away at a chain (symbolizing Israeli prisons) painted on a wall. A song promises that many "Gilads" will be the means to release Palestinian prisoners. The boy tells the chain that the Palestinians are patient and can wait for the chain to break. The boy then drops the stone, and on it appears a picture of Gilad Shalit. The boy tells Shalit that Hamas will be back to "finish the job." The video ends with Shalit crying, and calling "Mommy!"
 
The second animation shows Gilad Shalit being held prisoner and talking to a Hamas child. The Shalit character says Israel does not care about him, and suggests that the only way for him to be released would be for Hamas to kidnap more soldiers. The child understands that further kidnappings would cause drafted Israelis to refuse to serve in the army out of fear of being kidnapped, and thus scare Israeli leaders  -who otherwise don't care about Shalit - into accepting Hamas's terms.
 
The following is the transcript of the first Hamas TV animation mocking Israeli hostage Gilad Shalit and promising more kidnappings of soldiers:
 
(Song) "In the prisons, our heroes cried with joy: Our day of release has come; this land is our country! You [Israelis] will all be 'Gilads'. We'll capture you."
Hamas child uses a stone to scrape away at a chain painted on a wall.
Child [to chain]: "You don't want to break- that's OK. Take your time; we're not in a hurry, we're very patient."
Child drops stone, and image of Gilad Shalit appears on stone.
Child [to stone - Shalit]: "You stay where you are; don't move. Tomorrow we'll be back and we'll finish the job."
(Song) "It is inevitable that the chains will be broken."
[The video ends with the stone - Gilad Shalit - crying: "Mommy!" (in Hebrew)]
[Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas), April 21, 2009]
 
The following is the transcript of the Hamas TV animation mocking Israeli hostage Gilad Shalit and promoting the kidnapping-for-hostage policy:
 
Gilad Shalit: "Mommy!"
Hamas child: "Who is it? Gilad [Shalit]? [Child laughs] Poor you! You've been rotting here for 3 years, and no one cares."
Gilad Shalit: "Please release me!"
Hamas child: "Are you asking me to be a collaborator and a traitor, that I'll betray my people and my homeland? Are you crazy!"
Gilad Shalit: "I have an idea: You [Hamas] go and capture more soldiers, they [Israelis] will be afraid and accept your terms to free me."
Hamas child: "Ah, they will free you not because they love you, but to prevent anxiety among your soldiers, so they won't be afraid, and stop their military service."
Gilad Shalit: "True."
Hamas child: "Gilad, stay here, and pray that [Hamas] succeeds in capturing another [soldier], so you'll be freed. Bye."
Gilad Shalit: "Mommy! Mommy! (in Hebrew) Free me!"
[Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas), July 6, 2009]
 
Both Fatah and Hamas have stated that the kidnapping-for-hostage policy is the Palestinians' most effective tool to force the release of terrorist prisoners. Following are two examples of PA and Hamas ministers advocating kidnapping of Israeli soldiers:

Ashraf Al-Ajrami, PA Minister of Prisoners:
"The language of peace and negotiations is not enough to urge Israel to cooperate positively regarding prisoners. The way Israel likes, it seems, is to exchange [prisoners] with kidnapped Israeli soldiers."           
[PA TV (Fatah), June 5, 2008]

Said Siam, PA Minister of Interior (Hamas):
"In the past, Hamas succeeded in kidnapping many Zionist soldiers. From among our forces there are thousands of prisoners. They (the forces) have to think how to free these prisoners, and I believe that there is no alternative but to kidnap soldiers to exchange for them.
Hamas has kidnapped 10 soldiers.
There is nothing the Resistance cannot do. When there is a goal and a good plan, the goal can be achieved, especially about prisoners, which is top priority.
During the PA administration, Hamas has succeeded in kidnapping and hiding bodies, but unfortunately, two bodies were handed over for nothing. When there is a kidnapping, and it is secured, each case at its own time has its own negotiations."         
[Abu Dabi TV, June 26, 2006]
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It should be noted that months before the Shalit kidnapping, PMW released the Siam speech, and warned that kidnapping-for-hostages was Palestinian policy.

To read PMW op-ed on Hamas's kidnapping-for-hostage policy, click here.
To see more statements on PMW's website confirming the Palestinian kidnapping-for-hostage policy, click here. 
To see a previous PMW bulletin (featured on the old PMW website), released prior to the Gilad Shalit kidnapping, "Hamas Plans to Kidnap Israeli Soldiers for Prisoner Trade,"  click here. 
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Thursday, October 01, 2009

Netanyahu's speech brilliant but then strayed off path....Od Yeshama....

bs"d

When the astronauts landed on the moon they practically missed their target.  They were going in the right direction for so long but at the very last moment due to the conditions on the moon that made the landing difficult they practically missed  it. With G-d's grace, with almost no  time to spare they succeeded in landing.

Netanyahu's speech was brilliant up to the point where he failed to make any equivalence between Fatah and Iran.  Then he strayed from his destination. Because there is no distinction between Iran's ideology, Fatahs ideology and Nazi ideology except one poses a nuclear threat and the other doesn't. 

 Netanyahu's recognition of a Palestinian State contingent on their acceptance of  Jewish State indicates that he does not understand the purpose and raison d'etres of a Jewish State.  Because if he did, he would understand that a Palestinian State can never actualize the holiness and Kedusha of Eretz Yisroel, Eretz HaKodesh, the Holy Land.

Not just Netanyahu is at fault.   The mindset of the Jewish People including Chareidim, modern orthodox, and secular share this mindset.  It is our stubborn refusal to accept the aspect of Kedushin, sanctity and exclusivity of the partnership with Hashem, Am Yisroel and Eretz Yisroel. A Jewish marriage is holy and has sanctity  One does not share ones wife with another. 

Our relationship is holy based on our observance of the Mitzvoth and from this holy and sanctified relationship comes holiness, blessings, peace, and prosperity for the entire world! 

Od Yeshama B'Arei Yehuda Uvechutzot Yerushalayim...The prophesy for the future is that the rejoicing of the bride and groom will be heard in the cities of Judah and the outskirts of Jerusalem.

Chag Sameach!.

Sunday, September 27, 2009

JTA Treif News Source. Switch to Arutz7 and other authentic Jewish Kosher News

bs"d

From Mattot Arim:

Whose Fault is it that We All Hate Settlers?
Hatred -- of any group -- does not drop out of the sky like rain. It is cultivated. Let's ask the JTA (the news agency which supplies most American Jewish newspapers) not to cultivate hate and not to falsely accuse settlers of criminal deeds.
 
Dear Jewish Telegraph Agency, Your website  http://jta.org/about  states that the JTA strives to be "the definitive, trusted global source of ...current events". But this past year you printed a series of 3 one-sidedly negative articles against settlers which does not fit this description.
 
I am told that Mattot Arim www.mattotarim.organ Israeli grassroots organization, has approached you several times regarding the most distasteful "fact" presented in your series:  "[R]adical settlers ...have ...thrown acid at Israeli soldiers" http://jta.org/news/article/2009/06/24/1005829/behind-the-headlines-radical-jewish-settlers. I understand that Mattot Arim told you they have carefully looked into this matter with the Hebron spokesperson, the Shomron Council spokesperson, Women in Green founder Nadia Matar, Gush Katif spokesperson and others and all believe that this allegation is not factual.
 
I also understand that you (the JTA) have claimed that an un-named Israel Police spokesperson made this allegation to you and you merely reported it. Could you, the JTA, possibly confirm this to me by return email. This will allow the un-named spokesperson's behavior to be raised in the Israeli Knesset or cabinet by Mattot Arim. Could you also write to the Israel Police, inform them that the information they gave you has been challenged and ask them to corroborate their allegation by providing the JTA in writing some elementary details regarding their allegation (copy of the chemical analysis performed if any, who (names, dates) purportedly witnessed these events, were any soldiers purportedly injured and if so where are the medical reports, etc.).
 
Or, since it's Yom Kippur season -- the traditional apology season -- could you simply publish a correction and apology indicating that no facts are available to support this allegation so it is hereby retracted until further notice! I look forward to hearing from you, sincerely, Robin Ticker

 

Dear Jewish Print Media,

You are Jewish aren't you?... and some of you are even Orthodox and Chareidi....

Why  bring your news from treif sources even if they call themselves Jewish?  Can't you syndicate from the following Kosher sources regarding Settlements in Judea and Samaria? A Palestinian State has its ideological partner with Nazi Germany.  Settlement in Judea and Samaria has its ideological roots in the Torah.  Why isn't your news waking up the Jewish People that the Land of Israel is our entitlement based on our Jewish Heritage?  Front Page Coverage of Women in Green and Matot Arim will tell the authentic Jewish news. Netanyahus handshake with Abbas is newsworthy but so is the fact that he is willing to negotiate away Land that does not belong to him making this agreement as well as Oslo null and void based on Biblical entitlement. Freezing Jewish Settlement in Judea and Samaria  and removing outposts indicates weakness in our ideological religious and historical conviction and claim to our Land. (The Land belongs to G-d and He chooses to whom he will give it.  First Rashi of Breishit). Yasher Koach to 5TJewish Times for their news coverage....

GOOD and Kosher NEWS SOURCES

Women In Green  Unbelievable!

Mattot Arim  Unbelievable!


Yosef and Melody Hartuv, Love of the Land,
http://www.eish-l.org subscribe to their newsletter
Israel National News - Arutz7

The David S. Wyman Institute forHolocaust Studies

Act for America - Brigitte Gabriel

Palestinian Media Watch , www.palwatch.org,
Independant Media Review Analysis _IMRA
http://israelbehindthenews.com - David Bedein

http://www.afsi.org/OUTPOST/outpost.htm - link to past issues

Outpost July August 2009- (12 pages long, very worthwhile reading)

www.yeshabulletin.com (excellent online news source )

http://yeshabulletin.blogspot.com/


Dear fellow activist, amv"sh

Please send your own letter to the above media and let them know that you'd appreciate front page non skewed, objective media coverage that reflects the position of the settlers and Torah
cc: mattotarim@gmail.com and faigerayzel@gmail.com

Gmar Chasima Tova! Gmar Chatima Tova!



Wednesday, September 09, 2009

Newsflash! Powerful AFSI letter by Helen Freedman to DM Ehud Barak re SHDEMAI Rav Amnon Yitchok

bs"d

To the New Media,

If you haven't already, please put this letter on the front page of your newspaper
.  It is well written and speaks the truth! 

Let your readers continuously be aware that there is
a very strong movement worldwide against American Foreign policy
and the freezing of building and construction in Judea and Samaria.  The freeze is effectively in place now for several months due to failure of the Netanyahu administration (Barak and company)  to issue permits.  From many News Print headlines (and you know who you are),many readers have come to wrong conclusion that negotiating away parts of Eretz Yisroel be it an outpost or a full community is inevitable, a done deal something we are too weak to protest given the massive international pressure and therefore must come to terms with as painful as it may be.  We are being brainwashed by front page articles and sometimes back page articles in news media that majority of Jews in the USA and around the world  is  comfortable or must be satisfied with "gestures of normalization" from the Arab world in return for giving away portions of our Land ("confidence building measures").  The implication being that we must maintain the good graces of America and the Nations of the world and seek their approval. .  Your readers will gain chizuk from  Rav Amnon Yitzchok that speaks from the Torah and of having faith in the Almighty Hashem and from Helen Freedman and the Women in Green to protest unjust, anti Torah, militarily irresponsible and suicidal policies

Contact the Shofar Organization shofar@netvision.net.il,  and get some transcripts of Rav Amnon Yitchok's latest speeches that reach hundreds of thousands of caring Jews and blasts the policies to remove Jews from the Land of Israel and the secular character of the State of Israel that is coercive in their secularism.  He is entertaining, convincing and charismatic and speaks with clarity. He has a tremendous following among secular Israelis who are becoming Baalei Teshuva in spite of serious efforts on the left to stifle his voice. .

To the Leaders and Rabbanim of major religious Jewish Organizations in America please also take your cue from Rav Amnon Yitchok that is Mekarev hundreds of thousands of chilonim with words of Torah and Emunah and from Helen Freedman, a courageous women with a powerful voice who is not afraid to speak the truth, for Torah, for Eretz Yisroel and Am Yisroel about Jewish entitlement and about the Palestinians lies and untruths about "occupation" and against any agreement or compromise that involves a settlement freeze and/or the formation of a Palestinian State Chas Vechalila!

 
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Subject: NEWSFLASH! AFSI letter to DM Ehud Barak re SHDEMA ASFI מכתב בנושא שדמה ממנכ"לית תנועת
To: eli7 <eli7@womeningreen.org.il>


From: Nadia Matar [mailto:nmatar@netvision.net.il]
Subject: CORRECTED-AFSI letter to DM Barak re SHDEMA-AFSI

 

להלן מכתב חזק בנושא שדמה שהלן פרידמן, מנכ"לית תנועת AFSI ,כתבה אתמול לשר הבטחון עם העתק לראש הממשלה ולשרים,

לאחר שהשתתפה לאחרונה בפעילות בשדמה וראתה במו עיניה את המצב ההזוי בו ליהודים מונעים מלשהות בשדמה יותר מכמה שעות ולערבים נותנים לבנות בנייה בלתי חוקית מאסיבית על שטחי C בשליטה ישראלית למרות צווי ההריסה וצווי איסור שימוש המבנים.

 

 

Daar friends,

 

below please find Helen Freedman's powerful letter to Defense Minister Ehud Barak.

Helen Freedman, AFSI's executive director, recently spent a morning with us in Shdema and saw with her own eyes the ludicrous situation in which Jews are prevented from showing a  constant Jewish presence at the site while Arabs

continue to build illegally on Shdema's territory depite the destruction orders.

 

Sincerely,

The committee for a Jewish Shdema and Women in Green

 

 

 

1751 2nd Avenue, New York, NY 10128

Tel: 212-828-2424; Fax: 212-828-1717

E-mail afsi@rcn.com Website; http://www.afsi.org/  

Contact: Helen Freedman, Executive Director

September 8, 2009

 

To: Minister of Defense,

Mr. Ehud Barak

Re: Shdema

 

Dear Mr. Barak

 

I'm writing to you in the name of the thousands of members of Americans For a Safe Israel (AFSI) in the United States who are concerned about the illegal Arab land grab taking place everywhere in Israel, and in particular in the abandoned army base of Shdema.

 

I was recently in Israel, viewed the situation in Shdema firsthand, and took part in one of the weekly cultural events put on by The Committee for a Jewish Shdema.  I have followed the Committee's evolution from a small group of activists, to an established organization with ambitious plans for the area and strong support by the public, local authorities, and governmental figures and MPs.

 

I believe the Committee's goals of keeping Shdema in Jewish hands is an imperative for both practical and principled reasons.  As a practical matter, Shdema overlooks the highway connecting Jerusalem with Eastern Gush Etzion and southwards.  Controlling Shdema is therefore vital to the safety and security of Israel's Jewish citizens that reside and travel in those areas.  As a matter of principle, for Israel to abandon sovereignty over its territory de facto and out of inaction will lead to chaos, violence, and a tsunami of Arab lawlessness, as we are already seeing everywhere in Israel, in the Galilee and the Negev as well as Gush Etzion.

 

The illegal Arab building in Shdema is a striking example of brazenness that was actually funded by the American (USAID) and European governments.  AFSI has every intention of raising a furor over U.S. governmental funds going to fund illegal, politically motivated construction in the Israeli territory of Area C.  The Internet sites of some of the international organizations active in Shdema are full of hatred for Israel and lies and incitement against her.

 

The Arabs have plenty of land under their own jurisdiction on which to build whatever they'd like.  We at AFSI hope that as defense minister you will defend Israel's vital interests and ensure that Shdema remains Jewish. 

 

Sincerely,

Helen Freedman

Executive Director, AFSI

 

 


Friday, September 04, 2009

Women In Green: Judea and Samaria or State of Terror - Yoram Ettinger front page news article

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Dear Journalists and Rabbanim,

Let us choose Life - Jewish Judea and Samaria rather than Fatah Terror State!  This terror State aligns itself with Nazi ideology and those that were Partners with Hitler Yemach Shemo. Let this reality be in the consciousness of your readers  and congregations that a 2 State Solution is actually the empowerment of evil of the likes of Nazi Germany as Israel's neighbors. Why is our tax money $900,000,000 going to them?  Where will the $20 billion dollars from an arms deal with Saudi Arabia go?

To all Journalists and  Rabbanim, Why not go on this chizuk trip and do your part to promote life rather than empower evil. Raise consciousness to your readers and members of your Kehilla of the ugly reality that the 2 State Solution really is the embodiment of evil aligned with Nazi ideology. The best way to counter and  to fight this evil is by choosing life, Jewish settlement and expansion in Judea and Samaria. Passivity on our part and activism on their part leads to our destruction chas Vechalila!  Our Hishtadlus and G-ds intervention will beezrat Hashem weaken our enemies until we can be worthy of destroying Amalek from our midst.  Shabbat Shalom!

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Dear Friends,

Please mark your calendar for Wednesday, September 23rd, and join us on a uplifting chizuk trip to some outposts in Binyamin and Samaria who are on the national public agenda.

Following the information on our trip is an article by Yoram Ettinger, "State of Terror", explaining the dangers of the creation of a Palestinian State in Israel's Heartland.

After reading Ettinger's article one understands even more how important it is to strengthen the outposts and do all we can to build more and more Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria.

With love of Israel,

Nadia Matar
Women in Green

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MARK YOUR CALENDAR!

WOMEN IN GREEN CHIZUK TRIP TO OUTPOSTS IN BINYAMIN AND SHOMRON!

Women in Green invite you all to a special and moving morning of chizuk in the hills of Eretz Israel .

We will visit some of the outposts on the national public agenda. We will see that "outposts" are real thriving Jewish communities, defending the larger communities of Judea and Samaria who in their turn are the ones who defend Jerusalem.

When?
Please G-d, between Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, WEDNESDAY,SEPTEMBER 23rd, 2009

Where?
We will visit Bnei Adam- Mitzpe Yossef-the Ronen Farm and Haresha

With whom?
With the great and special tour guide Aryeh Klein who will fascinate us with his stories and explanations. The tour will be in Hebrew with translation into English for English speakers.

Departure by bus from Jerusalem at 9:00am, Inbal Hotel
Approximate return: 3:30pm

Fee: 30 nis (which will help to partially cover the expenses of the day)

More details about the trip will be posted soon.
As usual, we come to strengthen and come back strengthened.

Registration for the bus is a must. Please call Elisheva Ginzburgh and register now: 052-300-3689


For details: Nadia Matar 050-5500834, Yehudit Katzover 050-7161818


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State of Terror
By Yoram Ettinger
August 26, 2009

Why a Palestinian state would be a threat to American, Israeli and even Arab national security.

The idea that a Palestinian state can lead to enduring peace in the Middle East has become a diplomatic obsession for American policy makers. Bringing such a state into being has become the equivalent of finding the Holy Grail. In fact, however, a Palestinian state would not only fail to bring peace and stability to the region, but would make it an even more dangerous place than it already is. And ironically, given its adamant backing for a government that would have been led by Yasser Arafat and now would be headed by Abu Mazen, U.S. support for the creation of "Palestine," which would immediately ally itself with and become a client of rivals and enemies of America such as Iran, would harm American, Israeli, and even Arab interests.

The history of the PLO's Abu Mazen ­ who is hailed by the US administration as a peaceful leader ­ tells us something important about the likely character of a Palestinian state. As a graduate of Moscow University (Ph.D. thesis: Holocaust Denial) and a beneficiary of KGB training, he managed the logistics of the Munich Massacre of eleven Israeli athletes in 1972. He was the architect of PLO ties with ruthless communist regimes until 1989 and, since 1993, a series of PLO accords with Hamas. In 1950, 1966 and 1970, he was forced to flee Egypt, Syria and Jordan, respectively, for subversive activities. During the 1970s and 1980s he participated in PLO attempts to topple the Christian regime in Beirut, which resulted in the 1976 Syrian invasion of Lebanon and a series of civil wars, causing close to 200,000 deaths and hundreds of thousands of refugees. As Yasser Arafat's confidante and first deputy for over fifty years until Arafat's death, Abu Mazen is one of the engineers of contemporary Palestinian hate education, which has become a production line for terrorists. In 1990, he collaborated with Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait, despite the Gulf country's unique hospitality to 400,000 PLO-affiliated Palestinians.

This history is not that of a peace maker, and the PLO's track record of inter-Arab treachery, non-compliance, corruption, repression and terrorism does not give evidence of peaceful Palestinian state of the future. Since its makeover from a terrorist organization to a semi-independent entity in 1993, the Palestinian Authority, which has been led by PLO graduates of terrorist bases in Iraq, Yemen, Sudan, Lebanon, Syria and Tunisia, has become an incubator for terrorist tactics, which have been exported to Iraq, Afghanistan, England, Spain and other countries.

The 1968-70 and 1970-1982 PLO autonomy in Jordan and in Lebanon respectively provided training and inspiration for scores of international terror organizations; introduced the first wave of commercial aircraft hijackings; and facilitated the murder of 300 US Marines in the 1983 attack on the US Embassy and Marine Headquarters in Beirut. The year 1993 ­ when the PLO catapulted to prominence ­ marked a wave of anti-US Islamic terrorism, starting with the first bombing of the World Trace Center in 1993 and ending with the September 11 attacks.

The proposed Palestinian State would inflict destruction upon America's Arab allies and would enhance the fortunes of its rivals and enemies. Other states in the region know this. During the October 1994 signing of the Israel-Jordan peace treaty, top commanders of the Jordanian military urged their Israeli counterparts to stop short of a Palestinian state west of the Jordan River, "lest it destroy the [pro-US] Hashemite regime east of the River." Home to the largest Palestinian community in the world, Jordan is considered by the PLO to be Palestinian land. Why would the US support the Hashemite regime on one hand, but doom it to oblivion, by promoting a Palestinian State, on the other?

Even more worrisome are the ties between the PLO and Iran. The PLO was one of the earliest allies of the Ayatollah Khomeini when he toppled the Shah of Iran in 1979. After his 2005 election to the chairmanship of the Palestinian Authority, Abu Mazen's first visits were to Teheran and Damascus. A Palestinian state would extend Iran's long terrorist arm, facilitating subversive operations against pro-Western Arab regimes. It would also enable Iran to enhance its intelligence and military operations in the region, including port facilities in Gaza.

A Palestinian State would be a tailwind to insurgent terrorists in Iraq. With its long record of connections to Soviet intelligence, it would provide Russia and possibly China and North Korea with a foothold in the eastern flank of the Mediterranean at the expense of vital US interests. The increasingly Islamist and anti-US direction of Abu Mazen's educational and media efforts indicates that a Palestinian state would export terrorism to Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states.

The long and determined effort by American administrations to soften the Palestinian Authority's harsh features cannot change the fact that a Palestinian State would add fuel to the fire of terrorism in the region. In tying its fortunes to the creation of such a state, the United States may be signing a suicide note for its Middle East policy.

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Ambassador Yoram Ettinger served as Minister for Congressional Affairs at Israel's Embassy in Washington and Director of Israel's Government Press Office, in addition to other posts. He speaks frequently on U.S. college campuses about the conflict in the Middle East.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=36065


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Thursday, September 03, 2009

Teshuva Elul! STOP Nothing is as important ! WATCH THIS FILM! CHOMESH 1 Hour and 4 minutes

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It is Elul.  Time for Teshuva and self reflection.  How can we allow history to repeat itself?  Please forward! Show and send to your family and friends! 

"HITNA'ARI" – Menora Chazani's Film about Jews' Expulsion from Chomesh is Presented Free of charge
Till SUNDAY, September 6 / 17 Ellul , at http://www.wejew.com/hitnaari
OR http://wejew.com/media/5878/Hitnaari_Exclusive_Online_Movie_Launch
(Book the high resolution film with screenings@12tribefilms.org (From Dr. gadi.eshel@ptk.co.il)
PS. To support Chomesh First!: http://yeshuv.org/help_homesh/

'Jews who sell to Arabs are enemies' Halachic Decision "The New Sanhedrin" at meeting participated by Rabbi Yaakov Yosef, Menachem Porush


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Dear List,  In response to the talkbacks in jpost to this article:

Jews who sell to Arabs are enemies'

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804468650&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Clearly these Rabbis are not racist and the  Torah is not racist  as some of the talkbacks suggest.  Because Jews as well are not allowed to sell a parcel of Land in Israel forever to each other because of the commandments Shemittah and Yovel.  These commandments clearly demonstrate, the Land belongs to the Creator of the World and by Jewish Law, Jews are not permitted  to do as he wishes with this Land!  Ownership of the Land comes with Biblical obligations. Will these Arabs who buy from the Jews keep the laws of Shemittah and Yovel as the Jews are required? Will they take a Sabbatical year every seven years?  How will the Holy Land retain it's quality of holiness if the commandments are not being adhered?  This isn't racism.  Levites have no inheritance rights either and they are accepting of their role. What about Jewish women?The Ger Toshav, alien resident, is provided for but they must accept Jewish Sovereignty and the Laws of the Land. As some of the talkbacks noted, Torah is not the same as Democracy and Democracy is not the Torah. But Torah is the source of many democratic principles as well as a model from where the modern day republic took it's political philosopy.


Jews who sell to Arabs are enemies'

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1251804468650&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

A Jew who sells his land to Arabs should not be allowed to lead prayers in synagogue, should not be given the right to make a blessing during the Torah reading, should not be counted among the quorum needed for public prayers and is considered an abettor to the enemies of Israel, according to a halachic decision issued on Monday night by a group of rabbis calling themselves "The New Sanhedrin."

Professor Hillel Weiss.

Professor Hillel Weiss.
Photo: Bar Ilan-University

Prof. Hillel Weiss, a spokesman for the Sanhedrin, said that while the seller of land to Arabs is helping the Jewish people's enemies, this does not mean that he or she is guilty of a sin that entails the death penalty.

Rabbis who participated in a meeting that took place in the capital's Pisgat Ze'ev neighborhood on Monday evening included Safed Chief Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, Rabbi Ya'acov Yosef, son of Shas mentor Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, and former United Torah Judaism MK Rabbi Menachem Porush, 93.....


Also please read http://www.torahmitzion.org/ENG/resources/show.asp?id=185

Parshat Behar

"And the Land Will Not Be Sold Forever"

Rav Yisrael Shachor, Former Rosh Kollel, Chicago Kollel, 2003

Tuesday, September 01, 2009

Town Hall Meeting with Congressman Anthony Wiener Flatbush USA Policy Towards Israel

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Tonight, Congressman Anthony Weiner held a Town Hall Meeting in Flatbush Ave N Jewish Center about USA Policy Towards Israel. Other meetings in the area are scheduled.  It was not a full audience by any estimation.  The auditorium was filled with less then half.  I doubt it was widely publicized or announced in the shuls.  We got a personal letter from the Weiner office since my husband had written letters in the past on this topic. I didn't hear Agudah, YI, OU publicize this important meeting regarding America's foreign policy that is infringing on the lives of hundreds of thousands of Jews in Jerusalem Judea and Samaria.  I do believe that Young Israel did have a representative there.  I can not understand this passivity given the knowledge that the citizens of Yesha have had their checkpoints removed putting the lives of 350,000 residents in danger and that no new housing permits have been approved over the last few months in Yesha.  Netanyahu's gov'ts policies are seriously infringing on the quality of life for 350,000 Jews and the Jews in Flatbush or Boro Park are not being directed by their leadership to SPEAK OUT!   The other day Rebbetzin Bracha  Lieberman the mother of Hillel Lieberman HY"D who murdered at Kever Yosef called me up and happen to mention that checkpoints were removed and that in the past her daughter in law had 2 flats on the road.  G-d forbid should this happen now without any army protection.  Aside from the natural birth growth freeze, would most mothers take the chance on traveling under such hostile and dangerous roads?  Giving freedom of movement to Palestinians by taking away checkpoints means providing freedom of movement for terrorists and loss of freedom of movements to Jewish mothers and widows and orphans of terror victims. For this Netanyahu was praised by President OBama!

Why aren't the Rabbonim speaking up?  Unfortunately, the Silence of American Jewry occurred in 1943 as millions of Jews were exterminated and Peter Bergson tried to raise awareness to bomb the train tracks to Auschwitz.  He was successful to bring 400 Rabbis to Washington for 1 march.  Why did they give up so easily when they were ignored by Roosevelt?  We should have raised the roof with massive demonstrations for the lives of fellow Jews!  What good is all our speeches on Ahavas Yisroel and Machsom Peh? When we say we want something we must act in a way that shows that we mean it.  Anyone can say that they want security for Israel and its people but if actions don't prove it and we don't back up our words in action, then such words are merely lip service and meaningless.

Congressman Weiner spoke first.  His  main point was that the Obama Administration should address Palestinian Terrorism rather than pressure Israel. He suggested that rather than give $900,000,000 to the PA unconditionally, we give it incrementally, $100,000,000 at a time and see if they reciprocate  In addition, he and Nadler introduced legislation to stop the Bush Administration proposed 20 Billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia.  "They are paying the bills for the suicide bombers" Mr. Weiner said in a 2007 article in the NY Sun.  He said at the Town Meeting that the Saudi's can not be trusted with the money.

 He also said that we must respect the decisions made by government democracies yet at the same time he noted that Hamas and Hizbollah, terrorist organizations have been elected via the democratic process.  I suppose Weiner would maintain that when it comes to a terror state one can ignore the democratic election and act in self defense and defiance against the decisions of a terror state.  Apparently, he would disagree at the suggestion that one can ignore decisions of a non terror democratic elected government even when it is making decisions against the platform  by which it was elected due to pressure by the American government. 

The government representing Israel,   made a decision against the will of the electorate to annul G--d's Covenant,  This government chose to reject the Divine will, the Holy Torah,  and chose to cave in to American pressure.


Congressman Weiner also said that he is a staunch activist for Jonathan Pollard  and is calling for his clemency by the President.  He said that Jonathan had incompetent lawyers in the past.  But he prefaced by saying that it is a known fact that Jonathan Pollard did a bad thing since he spied for Israel.  Congressman Weiner saw me shake my head when he said that it is a known fact that Pollard did a bad thing when he spied for Israel.

At the meeting there were 5 or 6 questions about USA Policy towards Israel. 

Then there was a question about healhcare reform and the audience forgot about USA Israel Policy. It was a heated discussion about Healthcare.

I was no. 2 to be called upon.     Here were my 3 points.

1) According to the Torah, the Land of Israel is not promised to the seed of Abraham completely and  Ishmael is excluded since it says that Ishael will not inherit with Isaac and the inheritance goes to Isaac only.  This contradicts what Obama said at Cairo.  The Land is not promised to the seed of Isaac completely since Eisav sold his birthright  to Jacob for a pot of Lentils.  It is exclusively promised to the seed of Jacob who is called Israel.  Therefore the people of Israel are the legitimate inheritors of Judea and Samaria and not the Palestinians according to the truth of the Torah.

2) The Palestinians have an ideology worse than Nazi Germany.  Hitler yemach shemo promoted extermination of the Jews, and succeeded with 6,000,000. His partner was the Mufti of Jerusalem, Fatahs ideological Founding Father. Fatah goes one step further than Hilter Yemach shemo and promotes martyrdom, SUICIDE, to be SHAHID, a holy martyr in order to kill Jews.  Many of the schools in the PA have names after such Martyrs, suicide bombers as reported by PMW (Palestinian Media Watch)  So why is America promoting a Palestinian State whose ideology aligns itself with Nazi Germany??

3) Didn't Jonathan Pollard share intelligence of weapons of mass destruction and how would we respond if an ally to America had intelligence regarding the World Trade Center attack and did not share that info with America?

Answer to quesion no 1) was speak to the Rabbonim and that we must honor the decisions of an elected democracy. 

Answer to question 2) He, Congressman Weiner is actively trying to stop aid to Palestinians unless they show some willingness to stop terror

3) Had no clear answer about whether AMerica kept to their end of their treaty with Israel to share intelligence.  How then can we say that he did a bad thing when we don't know the answer to this question.  If America did not keep to their treaty this put Pollard in a moral dilemma forcing him correctly to answer to a higher authority.

After several more questions the topic changed to healthcare, Weiner's baby.  Congressman Weiner was very convincing that the healthcare reform that he is promoting together is the best for America. 

Walking to his car I told Weiner that his arguments sold me on his healthcare arguments for now. However, my final comment to him before he went into his car was, if the Federal gov't takes over healthcare reform this means that much funds will be going to the Federal gov't instead of to private medical insurance companies.  To this he agreed.  Let's say that it will be half of the money going to private insurance companies.  If I know that the government now is spending Tax Payer dollars to promote a destructive Palestinian State whose agenda is the destruction of Israel, how can I trust that the federal gov't will spend this health care money morally.  Perhaps the key decision makers will provide major funds for abortion or mercy killing and other problematic causes in the name of healthcare. I am afraid to trust Obama and his Adminstration  right now even if Medicare is well run at the moment and has been over the last 40 years. To this he replied that regarding healthcare, nothing much will change for 5 years and that will be at the end of Obama's 2nd term if reelected. Then he joked that perhaps the next President after that will be himself (Weiner). 

I for one of course would welcome the change!

Robin Ticker

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WORTH REPEATING

Hi Robin,
My take on the Wiener Town Meeting. It's worth repeating.
 
He is quite bright & knows how to say the right things. He let's people hear what they want to hear. He let us know that he doesn't agree with the Pres' comment re settlement freeze b/c he doesn't know what is the game plan. He said this different ways to everyone's delight. Of course, one hears what one is set up to hear.
I have no doubt that he has worked hard for Israel and deserves recognition for that. But when push comes to shove, he's a Democrat first.
As he was leaving, I approached the Congressman. For a brief moment, I believe he let his guard down. I told the Congressman that he was downplaying the negative effect of Obama's comments re the building freeze. I pointed out to him that Israel made numerous concessions over the past 17 years and received nothing in return except a vague promise of American support. Menachem Begin, A"H, said in 1971, "There is no guarantee that can guarantee an international guarantee." And sure enough, each Israeli concession was met by further Arab demands & more US pressure and more terrorism.
The Congressman then blurted back, "All I meant was that the President's statement regarding the settlement freeze was nothing more than that. It was a statement and nothing has happened. Nothing has changed." ...
I immediately pointed out to him that Obama's statement will have the opposite effect because every unilateral concession by Israel in the past has been met with Arab intransigence. He again repeated that nothing has been lost by Obama's statement. When I again repeated that the Arabs will make more demands because they see their tactics work, he conceded, "Yes, it could have that effect." 
I wanted too ask him if he was aware of the building freeze in parts of Y-m, and in all of Yehuda & Shomron and this is having a detrimental effect on the lives of Jews. But he turned to speak to somebody else.

I wanted to ask him publicly what I had asked him after the meeting. Unfortunately I was not called on and the meeting became more passionate, not about the mid-east but Health care. It was also dominated by a handful of people who kept calling out with comments re Health care. 


Kol Tuv,
Aaron Kinsberg

FYI:
In 2003, Congressmen Wiener was trying to pressure Pres Bush to recognize Y-m as Israel's capital. Ira Forman, of the National Jewish Democratic Council, commenting on the silence of the Jewish community,
"Anthony Weiner's efforts highlight the great hypocrisy of these people (the Bush Administration) and it highlights the failure of our community to criticize a president when it's appropriate."

Well Congressman Wiener, it's time to criticize this President even if he is a Democrat.