Dear RobinYour idea of a Torah autonomy is so disconnected with reality and shows how you are not in touch with what is going on here in israel,that I don't know even know where to start to explain things to you.I appreciate your care and worry for israel from far- but in the end, for anyone who wants to promote any idea or solution- one needs to make surethat one has a large group of people supporting such ideasWhen another million Torah observant Jews would actually leave Galut and come to israel on Aliya- and settle in Judea and samaria,you won't need any out of the box unrealistic autonomy plans- you simply would have a situation where there would be a clear rightwing Torah observant majoritythat would form a real rightwing government with no problemSo instead of promoting plans that are disconnected from reality- let's promote the aliya of one million Torah observant Jewsand you will see how things will change for the better in israel.KoltuvNadia Matarבתאריך יום א׳, 12 ביוני 2022 ב-20:01 מאת Robin Ticker <faigerayzel@gmail.com>:BsdDear Nadia and Yehudit, amv"shאל המקום אשר...What are your thoughts on these?A Palestinian state is on the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6BTcsJLrE
Fyi
I am once again sending you a proposal for a prototype Torah Autonomy for Judea and Samaria that needs to be reconsidered in light of global current events.
Please note that the intention is not G-d forbid to divide the Jewish people and or the Government and State of Israel. The opposite. It is for Israel to survive with Unity as G-d intended. It is to present ideas that are out of the box that has never recently been seriously publicly considered, analyzed and debated.
Actually such a discussion took place in Marianbad in 1937 by the Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah and the Resolution was for Israel to be a State governed by Torah laws.
The time simply was not ripe.
Perhaps now the time is more ripe.
Why is the suggestion of a small scale prototype Torah Autonomy in Judea and Samaria considered divisive while an anti G-d plan that is being created with facts on the ground coming from an alliance of the EU and the Civil Authority not considered divisive?
Why is this? After all, the latter solution clearly endangers and abandons our Jewish G-d fearing brothers and sisters living in Judea and Samaria?
This is probably because the closer we get to forming a G-d fearing Government in Israel and elsewhere with G-d fearing laws, be it in Israel or the Diaspora, it greatly threatens the evil Anti G-d Global forces who are pushing their agenda, an agenda to remove G-d from the narrative.
In NY we feel it strongly as they push to force a very hostile curriculum on Jewish Orthodox Yeshivas. Their agenda pushes the negation of the 7 Noahide laws with GENDER studies and late term abortion indoctrination on little children.
This post is therefore as relevant today as then and probably more urgent.
Let me end with a parable brought by Rabbi Akiva. Thank you Rabbi Smith who brought down this parable in this weeks Parsha Naso class.
Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith Imperative for Life to Teach Jewish Kids (and Adults) Torah... and non Jewish Kids (and Adults) Torah for non-Jews!
https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2022/06/rabbi-yitzchok-dovid-smith-imperative.html?m=1
and tied it to the educational crisis happening in Yeshivas.
Can G-d fearing Jews live side by side peacefully with a Palestinian Autonomy? Impossible.
Berakhot 61b
The William Davidson Talmud(Koren - Steinsaltz)
6
תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: פַּעַם אַחַת גָּזְרָה מַלְכוּת הָרְשָׁעָה שֶׁלֹּא יַעַסְקוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּתּוֹרָה. בָּא פַּפּוּס בֶּן יְהוּדָה וּמְצָאוֹ לְרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא שֶׁהָיָה מַקְהִיל קְהִלּוֹת בָּרַבִּים וְעוֹסֵק בַּתּוֹרָה. אָמַר לוֹ: עֲקִיבָא אִי אַתָּה מִתְיָרֵא מִפְּנֵי מַלְכוּת?
The Gemara relates at length how Rabbi Akiva fulfilled these directives. The Sages taught: One time, after the bar Kokheva rebellion, the evil empire of Rome decreed that Israel may not engage in the study and practice of Torah. Pappos ben Yehuda came and found Rabbi Akiva, who was convening assemblies in public and engaging in Torah study. Pappos said to him: Akiva, are you not afraid of the empire?
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אָמַר לוֹ: אֶמְשׁוֹל לְךָ מָשָׁל, לְמָה הַדָּבָר דּוֹמֶה — לְשׁוּעָל שֶׁהָיָה מְהַלֵּךְ עַל גַּב הַנָּהָר, וְרָאָה דָּגִים שֶׁהָיוּ מִתְקַבְּצִים מִמָּקוֹם לְמָקוֹם. אָמַר לָהֶם: מִפְּנֵי מָה אַתֶּם בּוֹרְחִים? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: מִפְּנֵי רְשָׁתוֹת שֶׁמְּבִיאִין עָלֵינוּ בְּנֵי אָדָם. אָמַר לָהֶם: רְצוֹנְכֶם שֶׁתַּעֲלוּ לַיַּבָּשָׁה, וְנָדוּר אֲנִי וְאַתֶּם, כְּשֵׁם שֶׁדָּרוּ אֲבוֹתַי עִם אֲבוֹתֵיכֶם? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אַתָּה הוּא שֶׁאוֹמְרִים עָלֶיךָ פִּקֵּחַ שֶׁבַּחַיּוֹת?! לֹא פִּקֵּחַ אַתָּה, אֶלָּא טִפֵּשׁ אַתָּה! וּמָה בִּמְקוֹם חִיּוּתֵנוּ, אָנוּ מִתְיָרְאִין, בִּמְקוֹם מִיתָתֵנוּ — עַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה. אַף אֲנַחְנוּ עַכְשָׁיו שֶׁאָנוּ יוֹשְׁבִים וְעוֹסְקִים בַּתּוֹרָה, שֶׁכָּתוּב בָּהּ: ״כִּי הוּא חַיֶּיךָ וְאֹרֶךְ יָמֶיךָ״, כָּךְ, אִם אָנוּ הוֹלְכִים וּמְבַטְּלִים מִמֶּנָּה — עַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה!
Rabbi Akiva answered him: I will relate a parable. To what can this be compared? It is like a fox walking along a riverbank when he sees fish gathering and fleeing from place to place.
The fox said to them: From what are you fleeing?
They said to him: We are fleeing from the nets that people cast upon us.
He said to them: Do you wish to come up onto dry land, and we will reside together just as my ancestors resided with your ancestors?
The fish said to him: You are the one of whom they say, he is the cleverest of animals? You are not clever; you are a fool. If we are afraid in the water, our natural habitat which gives us life, then in a habitat that causes our death, all the more so.
The moral is: So too, we Jews, now that we sit and engage in Torah study, about which it is written: "For that is your life, and the length of your days" (Deuteronomy 30:20), we fear the empire to this extent; if we proceed to sit idle from its study, as its abandonment is the habitat that causes our death, all the more so will we fear the empire.
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Merely starting a discussion for a prototype Torah Autonomy in Judea and Samaria will bring fear in those who are creating facts on the ground for a Palestinian State. This is worthy to fight for with all our hearts and soul.
A Historic New Beginning as Sovereignty is on Hold. My letter to AFSI - Thinking out of the Box - A Judean Autonomy.
https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2020/09/fwd-historic-new-beginning-as.html?m=1
Posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com June 12, 2022
Wednesday, June 15, 2022
Re: Being connected with reality...
Sunday, June 12, 2022
They want to build a Palestinian State- Your thoughts
A Palestinian state is on the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6BTcsJLrE
Fyi
I am once again sending you a proposal for a prototype Torah Autonomy for Judea and Samaria that needs to be reconsidered in light of global current events.
Please note that the intention is not G-d forbid to divide the Jewish people and or the Government and State of Israel. The opposite. It is for Israel to survive with Unity as G-d intended. It is to present ideas that are out of the box that has never recently been seriously publicly considered, analyzed and debated.
Actually such a discussion took place in Marianbad in 1937 by the Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah and the Resolution was for Israel to be a State governed by Torah laws.
The time simply was not ripe.
Perhaps now the time is more ripe.
Why is the suggestion of a small scale prototype Torah Autonomy in Judea and Samaria considered divisive while an anti G-d plan that is being created with facts on the ground coming from an alliance of the EU and the Civil Authority not considered divisive?
Why is this? After all, the latter solution clearly endangers and abandons our Jewish G-d fearing brothers and sisters living in Judea and Samaria?
This is probably because the closer we get to forming a G-d fearing Government in Israel and elsewhere with G-d fearing laws, be it in Israel or the Diaspora, it greatly threatens the evil Anti G-d Global forces who are pushing their agenda, an agenda to remove G-d from the narrative.
In NY we feel it strongly as they push to force a very hostile curriculum on Jewish Orthodox Yeshivas. Their agenda pushes the negation of the 7 Noahide laws with GENDER studies and late term abortion indoctrination on little children.
This post is therefore as relevant today as then and probably more urgent.
Let me end with a parable brought by Rabbi Akiva. Thank you Rabbi Smith who brought down this parable in this weeks Parsha Naso class.
Rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Smith Imperative for Life to Teach Jewish Kids (and Adults) Torah... and non Jewish Kids (and Adults) Torah for non-Jews!
https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2022/06/rabbi-yitzchok-dovid-smith-imperative.html?m=1
and tied it to the educational crisis happening in Yeshivas.
Can G-d fearing Jews live side by side peacefully with a Palestinian Autonomy? Impossible.
Berakhot 61b
The William Davidson Talmud(Koren - Steinsaltz)
6
תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: פַּעַם אַחַת גָּזְרָה מַלְכוּת הָרְשָׁעָה שֶׁלֹּא יַעַסְקוּ יִשְׂרָאֵל בַּתּוֹרָה. בָּא פַּפּוּס בֶּן יְהוּדָה וּמְצָאוֹ לְרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא שֶׁהָיָה מַקְהִיל קְהִלּוֹת בָּרַבִּים וְעוֹסֵק בַּתּוֹרָה. אָמַר לוֹ: עֲקִיבָא אִי אַתָּה מִתְיָרֵא מִפְּנֵי מַלְכוּת?
The Gemara relates at length how Rabbi Akiva fulfilled these directives. The Sages taught: One time, after the bar Kokheva rebellion, the evil empire of Rome decreed that Israel may not engage in the study and practice of Torah. Pappos ben Yehuda came and found Rabbi Akiva, who was convening assemblies in public and engaging in Torah study. Pappos said to him: Akiva, are you not afraid of the empire?
7
אָמַר לוֹ: אֶמְשׁוֹל לְךָ מָשָׁל, לְמָה הַדָּבָר דּוֹמֶה — לְשׁוּעָל שֶׁהָיָה מְהַלֵּךְ עַל גַּב הַנָּהָר, וְרָאָה דָּגִים שֶׁהָיוּ מִתְקַבְּצִים מִמָּקוֹם לְמָקוֹם. אָמַר לָהֶם: מִפְּנֵי מָה אַתֶּם בּוֹרְחִים? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: מִפְּנֵי רְשָׁתוֹת שֶׁמְּבִיאִין עָלֵינוּ בְּנֵי אָדָם. אָמַר לָהֶם: רְצוֹנְכֶם שֶׁתַּעֲלוּ לַיַּבָּשָׁה, וְנָדוּר אֲנִי וְאַתֶּם, כְּשֵׁם שֶׁדָּרוּ אֲבוֹתַי עִם אֲבוֹתֵיכֶם? אָמְרוּ לוֹ: אַתָּה הוּא שֶׁאוֹמְרִים עָלֶיךָ פִּקֵּחַ שֶׁבַּחַיּוֹת?! לֹא פִּקֵּחַ אַתָּה, אֶלָּא טִפֵּשׁ אַתָּה! וּמָה בִּמְקוֹם חִיּוּתֵנוּ, אָנוּ מִתְיָרְאִין, בִּמְקוֹם מִיתָתֵנוּ — עַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה. אַף אֲנַחְנוּ עַכְשָׁיו שֶׁאָנוּ יוֹשְׁבִים וְעוֹסְקִים בַּתּוֹרָה, שֶׁכָּתוּב בָּהּ: ״כִּי הוּא חַיֶּיךָ וְאֹרֶךְ יָמֶיךָ״, כָּךְ, אִם אָנוּ הוֹלְכִים וּמְבַטְּלִים מִמֶּנָּה — עַל אַחַת כַּמָּה וְכַמָּה!
Rabbi Akiva answered him: I will relate a parable. To what can this be compared? It is like a fox walking along a riverbank when he sees fish gathering and fleeing from place to place.
The fox said to them: From what are you fleeing?
They said to him: We are fleeing from the nets that people cast upon us.
He said to them: Do you wish to come up onto dry land, and we will reside together just as my ancestors resided with your ancestors?
The fish said to him: You are the one of whom they say, he is the cleverest of animals? You are not clever; you are a fool. If we are afraid in the water, our natural habitat which gives us life, then in a habitat that causes our death, all the more so.
The moral is: So too, we Jews, now that we sit and engage in Torah study, about which it is written: "For that is your life, and the length of your days" (Deuteronomy 30:20), we fear the empire to this extent; if we proceed to sit idle from its study, as its abandonment is the habitat that causes our death, all the more so will we fear the empire.
-----
Merely starting a discussion for a prototype Torah Autonomy in Judea and Samaria will bring fear in those who are creating facts on the ground for a Palestinian State. This is worthy to fight for with all our hearts and soul.
A Historic New Beginning as Sovereignty is on Hold. My letter to AFSI - Thinking out of the Box - A Judean Autonomy.
https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2020/09/fwd-historic-new-beginning-as.html?m=1
Posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com June 12, 2022
Wednesday, June 01, 2022
Senior Religious Zionist Rabbi slams American Left on abortion
Monday, May 30, 2022
Fyi United Nations Population Fund Leader Says Family Breakdown is a Triumph for Human Rights. Alice Bailey's Vision of A New World Order... 10 point plan
United Nations Population Fund Leader Says Family Breakdown is a Triumph for Human Rights
A leader in the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) has declared that the breakdown of traditional families, far from being a "crisis," is actually a triumph for human rights.
This is further proof of the United Nations agenda which Rabbi Rietti explained on Lag Ba'omer.
The agenda is to take everyone away from worship of One G-d, destroy the traditional family unit, promote to'eiva and abortion, and more.
Please, let us wake up before it is too late.
Brucha Weissberger writes:
Here I'll post a picture of the UN/WEF goals so you can see clearly.
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The UN organization UNESCO has been actively working for years to shape curriculums in schools worldwide to achieve to their goals. The UN philosophy was actually shaped by the works of Alice Bailey (1880-1949), one of the founders of the "New Age Movement", and her 10-Point Plan of the New World Order, which she wrote in the '40's. The stated purpose of her charter is to "redeem the nations from Judeo/Christian tradition." The people that Alice Bailey hated the most and most wanted to to destroy, though, were the Orthodox Jews, as is seen in references she makes in her writings, "The Externalisation of the Hierarchy" and "Esoteric Healing".
Teachers cannot talk to children, children step up and say "I have my rights, you cannot talk to me like that.")
3. DESTROY THE TRADITIONAL RELIGIOUS FAMILY STRUCTURE (Why?) She said: "It is oppressive and that the family is the core of the nation. If you break the family, you break the nation. Liberate the people from the confines of this structure." (How?)
a)Promote pritzus – (here I edited greatly for tznius purposes.)
b) Use advertising industry, media – T.V., magazines, film industry to promote pritzus as the highest enjoyment in humanity.
4. IF PRITZUS IS FREE, THEN MAKE ABORTION LEGAL AND MAKE IT EASY She said: "Build clinics for abortion – Health clinics in schools. If people are going to enjoy pritzus, they need to be free of unnecessary fears, in other words they should not be hampered with unwanted pregnancies."
'Abortion as told by religion is oppressive and denies our rights, we have a right to choose whether we want to have a child or not. If a woman does not want the pregnancy, she should have the freedom to get rid of that pregnancy as painlessly and as easily as possible'.
5. Make divorce easy and legal, and free people from the concept of marriage.
6. Make to'eiva an alternative lifestyle. Alice Bailey preached that —— enjoyment is the highest pleasure in humanity, no one must be denied and no one must be restricted how to enjoy themselves.
7. Debase art, music and drama and make it run mad and corrupt. How will they accomplish this? The philosophers explain that since art (pictures, music, drama etc.) is the language of the spirit and captures the heart of the young, we need to ensure that it is filled with desire and immorality.
8. Use media to promote and change the mindset of men.
(How well have they accomplished this? They invest astronomical sums to capture the minds of the young to their corrupt and immoral way of thinking - through professional psychologists and market experts. To illustrate:
Number of 30-second TV commercials seen in a year by an average child: 20,000 = 10,000 minutes or 166 hours and 35 minutes. Number of TV commercials seen by the average person by age 65: 2 million + 1 million minutes or 16,666 hours or 1,389 days (12 hours) which is 3.8 years of the average American's life is spent watching TV commercials by 65 years of age. Or about 3.5% of your life is watching commercials!
Number of 30-second TV commercials seen in a year by an average child: 20,000 = 10,000 minutes or 166 hours and 35 minutes. Number of TV commercials seen by the average person by age 65: 2 million + 1 million minutes or 16,666 hours or 1,389 days (12 hours) which is 3.8 years of the average American's life is spent watching TV commercials by 65 years of age. Or about 3.5% of your life is watching commercials!
Total spending by 100 leading TV advertisers in 1993: $15 billion V. GENERAL Percentage of local TV news broadcast time devoted to advertising: 30 % Percentage devoted to stories about crime, disaster and war: 53.8 % Percentage devoted to public service announcements: 0.7 %
Percentage of Americans who can name The Three Stooges: 59 % Percentage who can name at least three justices of the U.S. Supreme Court: 15 %.)
9. CREATE AN INTERFAITH MOVEMENT (Edited, can see full version online.) Alice Bailey wrote: "Promote the importance of man in determining his own future and destiny" – HUMANISM. "Tell man he has the right to choose what he wants to be and he can make it happen, he has the right to determine his cause."
10. GET GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE ALL THESE LAWS AND GET THE CHURCH TO ENDORSE THESE CHANGES.
(End quote.)
SO ALL THE "MERCIFUL" 'FREEDOM' GIVEN in recent years was actually FOR ONE REASON ONLY - TO LEAD US AWAY FROM G-D, AND INTO THE ARMS OF CRUEL SATANISTS.
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