Dear Neemanei Eretz Yisroel, Prof. Eldad and my List, amv"sh
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Neemanei Eretz Yisroel and see their declarations for a Jewish Authority in Judea and Samaria.
Though perhaps we don't agree with all that is written in these declarations, myself included as explained below, there is good reason to address this declaration seriously and really extend our imagination and envision, as the co signers have, the actualization of our dream of 2000 years of Am Yisroel having Jewish Sovereignty in Eretz Yisroel that is governed by Torah and not by secular law. Let us welcome the courageous stand of Neemanei Eretz Yisroel and rather than condemn it, brainstorm and be part of a new dawn, a new age that really demonstrates our Emunah Peshuta, our simple belief in G-d and our belief in our Holy Torah with concrete action and not merely lip service.
While the majority of the people of Israel are not quite ready for such a revolutionary suggestion of a government based on Torah, the communities in Judea and Samaria are open to it. Now when Israel faces the prospect of a hostile Palestinian State governed by Sharia Law glorifying shahidism side by side the State of Israel, the prospect of a sister Jewish Authority side by side the State of Israel governed by the Written and Oral Laws of Torah and a Sanhedrin, does not seem quite as threatening.
It does not seem likely that Netanyahu's government would have what it takes to annex Judea and Samaria. Let us take advantage of this window of opportunity and explore the possibility of a government that is based on the Torah and Hebraic Law as a prototype in Judea and Samaria. Even if Judea and Samaria was annexed, G-d willing, establishing a prototype gov't based on Torah in Judea and Samaria is a revolutionary idea and should be done small scale. I suspect that the majority of Israeli's will be afraid of religious coercion. One can not simultaneously govern according to secular law and religious law. That is why there needs to be a distinction in the way these Torah Authorities are governed along with collaboration and cooperation with the Secular State of Israel.
Let me incorporate some of the ideas presented by Prof. Eldad at the Jabotinsky Memorial.
To paraphrase Prof. Eldad. What has been obvious for generations is no longer obvious and the people are very confused.
Those that cosigned this declaration of Neemanei Eretz Yisroel clearly understand that Eretz Yisroel has intrinsic value of its own and is not merely a tool. Eretz Yisroel is the aspiration of the Jewish People for thousands of years as MK Eldad eloquently pointed out at the Jabotinsky Memorial hosted by AFSI in Manhatten this past Thursday, and not merely a place of refuge for the Jewish People. Let us free ourselves of the shelter mentality and proclaim that Eretz Yisroel is our homeland. It is a Holy Land which acquires it's sanctity to its fullest when the Nation of Israel, G-d's Chosen People, adhere to the Commandments on the Land. Eretz Yisroel can not be traded for "peace". It is not negotiable by "leaders". Pieces of Land can not be swapped. Drawing lines while negotiating territorial compromises do not lead to peace but lead to war. The shelter mentality according to Dr. Eldad is the source of our weakness.
Where is our yearning to keep the commandments and bring forth the sanctity of the Land prescribed by the Torah? Will the Palestinians keep Shemittah?
The extended borders of Eretz YIsroel are the borders promised by G-d to Abraham. In Parshat Masei, those borders were reduced and instead of being commanded to conquer 10 Canaanite Nations, Joshua was commanded to conquer 7 Canaanite Nations. Perhaps this was as a result of the Sin of the Spies. Yet the Jewish People still dream for the Messianic era when the borders will extend till the Euphrates as promised to our forefather Abraham. Personally, I do not believe that this time has come because the Sin of the Spies has not been rectified. In my opinion, the sin of the Spies will be rectified when all the Rabbis unite and reestablish a Jewish Court by Temple Mount also known as the Sanhedrin.
I am unaware of any Rabbinic commentary who suggests however that the expanded boundaries of Eretz Yisroel is nullified and void and replaced by the reduced boundaries in Parshat Masei. It is understood that the expanded boundaries will be the accepted boundaries for the Messianic times,
It is for this reason I would not support the campaign which states that Jordan is Palestine as promoted by MK Eldad. MK Eldad is proposing a solution that is not based on reality but on what he believes will be a palatable solution that Nations of the World will find acceptable. This temporary solution is deceptive since, eventually there will be a Sanhedrin and G-d willing one day, G-d's Covenant with Abraham will be fulfilled and the borders of Israel will be extended to the Euphrates.
It is my understanding that MK Eldad says that 80 percent of Jordan is anyway Palestine, and anyway the Arab Spring will affect Jordan as it did Egypt and it's inevitable that the Palestinians will take Jordan so why not make the most of it.
I see problems with this argument.
- Why promote Nazi sympathizers next door.
- Jordan is not the homeland of the Palestinians. Palestinians actually come from all over and they are from many different Arab countries. Let them all return from where they came from. The further the better. Mike Huckabee suggested Saudi Arabia and not Jordan because as he said it's too close for comfort.
- The Hashemites Kingdom, (King Abdullah) are Noahites. At least that is my impression Surely they do not promote the destruction of Israel as do the Palestinian Authority. The emblem of the Palestinian Authority is proof of the Palestinian agenda.
I do not suggest the deportation of any Palestinians. According to Prof. Eldad, forced transfer is against the law and Rabbi Kahana was marginalized because he advocated something that is against the law. Rather let us take our cue from Joshua who gave the residents of Canaan 3 choices.
- Accept Jewish Sovereignty and the 7 Noahide laws Their status is then of Ger Toshav with many rights and the Jewish State will look after their welfare.
- Leave to wherever they choose, the door is open for them to leave. Surely there are plenty of Muslim countries or non Muslim countries that they will find much comfortable than a Jewish country.
- Stay and fight the Jews and accept the consequences of War.
In conclusion, let us conduct an open debate regarding how Jews can once again establish a government true to the Torah.
fyi, What follows is some of the Neemanei Eretz Yisroel declarations. For the rest visit
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The Jewish Authority in the Land of Israel
12 Elul 5771
September 11, 2011
The Secretary-General of the United Nations
The President of the Security Council
The President of the General Assembly
Gentlemen,
It is with great pleasure that we bring to your attention that on September 8,2011 the Jewish Authority in the Land of Israel was proclaimed as a political and legal entity at an assembly of the residents of the Land of Israel convened in Nofim,in the Shomron (Samaria).
The Jewish Authority in the Land of Israel derives its legal existence from the title of sovereignty of the Jewish People over the regions of Yehuda (Judah) and Shomron (Samaria) granted by the Almighty to their ancestors and subsequently recognized by the Principal Allied Powers in April 1920 at the Peace Conference convened in San Remo, Italy; confirmed by the Council of the League of Nations in July 1922; and preserved by Article 80 of the Charter of the United Nations adopted in 1946 – though as yet not implemented by the State of Israel.
The confirmed existing sovereignty of the Jewish People over the regions of Yehuda and Shomron precludes any legal possibility of recognizing any foreign political entity that may claim sovereignty over this area, and any decision in favor of such recognition is patently illegal and as such – is null and void.
The Provisional Executive Committee of the Jewish Authority in the Land of Israel will hold within one year free democratic elections in which registered residentsof Judah and Samaria will be eligible to choose their own leadership.
Very sincerely,
THE PROVISIONAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE,
THE JEWISH AUTHORITY IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL
Rabbi Shalom Ber Wolpo, Beitar Illit
Professor Hillel Weiss, Elkana
Mrs. Anat Livni, Nofim
Mrs. Ruth Eisilowitz, Hod Hasharon
Att. Boaz Shapira, Tel-Aviv
Yonatan-ben-Eliezer:Amarcol, Jerusalem
Mr. Yoel Lerner, Jerusalem
The Jewish Authority established in Yehuda and Shomron, with its Capital at Jerusalem, is the sole autonomous representative of the Jewish People in accordance with recognized Law.
The Authority completely and firmly rejects Netanyahu's plan calling for the creation of "Two States for Two Nations".
No "leader" is invested with such authority, nor can any leader be invested with such authority.
The Authority will see the UN as an aggressor as long as the UN obstructs the free and legal exercise of the Sovereignty of the Jewish Nation throughout the Land of Israel.
The Jewish Authority calls upon all of the Peoples of the World to join together with us, individuals and families, Christians and Moslems that accept the Torah of Moses, the Prophets and the Holy Writings, to create a World Forum as an alternative to the UN, to support the Jewish People and to join in a World Pilgrimage to the Temple Mount.
The Jewish Authority will hold free elections in accordance with the Torah throughout Yehuda andShomron, as well as in the Capital, Jerusalem in order to properly appoint a leadership that truly represents the fundamental principles of the Jewish Nation and will safeguard the People's Rights and the People's Security.
The Jewish Authority calls upon the State of Israel, as well as to all of its agencies and its institutions, to adopt the Fundamental Principles of the Jewish Authority in a formal Resolution.
The Jewish Authority rejects and negates any "decision" by the Supreme Court and/or any other court the ffect of which is the impediment of Jewish Rights, including the Right of Self-Determination of the Sovereign Jewish People, and certainly any "decision" which contravenes the Torah of Israel.
The Jewish Authority will establish and maintain a system of Justice in accordance with the legal principlesof the Torah throughout Yehuda and Shomron, including in the Capital, Jerusalem, insofar as the Jewish population understands its vital importance.The Jewish Authority will support the raising of funds for building, security and agriculture as well as local cottage industries throughout Yehuda and Shomron.
The Jewish Authority supports all activities that promote an increased Jewish Presence on the Temple Mount.
We also call upon the Moslem Arabs that live in the Old City of Jerusalem and the surrounding areas, as well as throughout Yehuda, Shomron and Binyamin to participate in the elections upon acceptance of certain documented conditions as follows:
- A signed declaration of acceptance of the Koran in its entirety, and therefore acceptance of the fact that the entire Land of Israel, from the Euphrates to the Nile, is the Land of the Children of Israel, the Jewish People of today as the direct descendants of our Fathers that stood at Mount Sinai with Moshe the Prophet, Master of all Prophets, who has never been equaled.
- A signed declaration of request for status as a Resident of the Land in consequence of an oath to observe and uphold the Seven Commandments of the Children of Noah according to the Torah of Israel and to be faithful to the Principles of the Jewish Authority, specifically that theJewish Authority has the exclusive Right to operate throughout the Land of Israel.
- In lieu of paragraph 2. (above), one may elect to convert with the intention of accepting and fulfilling the Commandments according to the Torah of Moshe and Israel.The above is predicated upon an oath of Allegiance to the Jewish Authority.
One who abrogates these conditions is considered an enemy and will be deported at the earliest opportunity. We are confident that this approach and the world-view that is presented here are the key to peace among all of the Nations of the world, the Jewish People and the Creator.
We pray together with all of God's loyal peoples:
"May it be
His Will that God's Presence pervade the World that He created inkindness and mercy, and that He bring the Redeemer of Israel, the anointed scion of David, to his Holy City as is right and proper for all times. Upon his throne nostranger shall sit, and no others may inherit this honor! Blessed are You, our God, the Lord of Redemption!"
THE PROVISIONAL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE,
THE JEWISH AUTHORITY IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL