EVEN MORE responses from callers to Rav Perlow and Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky

from	Renanah Goldhar
to		faigerayzel@gmail.com
date		Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:22 PM
subject		conversations with Rav Perlow and Kamenesky/ also question: what about asking them to ask the Israeli rabbinate to speak out, followed by Diaspora support?

I spoke with  Rav Perlow the Noveminker  and Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky today.  R av Perlow said that we should keep doing whatever we can but that he could not speak with me about the "political situation."  I told both Rab Perlow and Rav Kamenetsky that I was a student of the life and writings of Rabbi Dov Weissmandl of blessed memory.

 

Rav Kamenetsky was very warm and sad - it seemed to me.

He spoke about supporting the Israeli rabbis ONCE they speak out.  He said to do so first would NOT help them or the situation.

 

Well, what about the Israeli rabbinate speaking to him and asking him to speak out?  Rabbi Weinberg, Rabbi Waldman and others?

 

Perhaps Rabbi Kamentsky meant that it had to be not individual rabbis.  Well - what about Aish Hatorah?   What about the Nir Yeshiva?

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My comments are in purple.

Yasher Koach!  Please ask Rav Perlow why it's a "political situation?"  Why is the expulsion the hundreds of thousands of Jews less of a Torah issue then  Basar Vechalav.  If we want to keep the Mitzvah of Shemittah which is Shabbat Haaretz it's a Torah issue. Observing these Mitzvoth becomes impossible if we give away the Land of Israel. Where is the yearning and desire to keep the Mitzvoth of Eretz Yisroel of Sefer Devarim taught by Moshe Rabbeinu to Am Yisroel especially since he was not going to be leading the Nation into Eretz Yisroel.  These Mitzvoth are the key to our survival.  We will be unable to keep the Mitzva DOrayta of Shabbat Haaretz. And if you say Shemittah is simply Drabbanon then why is the halacha of Badatz against Heter Mechira and yet now how are their Rabbanim so willing to actually give Eretz Yisroel away? There is also a matter of Al Taamod Al Dam Reiacha which the gov't of Israel is doing withe citizens of Judea and Samaria and Sderot. They are imprisoning the Jews of Judea and Samaria if these Jews protest giving away Eretz Yisroel.  What about Pidyon Shvuyim????? There are so many Mitzvoth DOrayta Lo Saaseh there were violated with the expulsion of the people of Gush Katif.  What's the point of learning all the gemarras on property rights when one is silent when ones brothers home was destroyed and means of Parnassa taken away and the same is programmed to happen for hundreds of thousands more Chas Vechalila. The IDF has brainwashed it's loyal citizens to abandon it's function as protector of the citizens of Israel to be an instrument of the gov't who make immoral decisions on behalf of the Nation.   If the gov't would outlaw Bris Mila does it become a "political situation? or does it still remain a Mitzvah of the Torah.  Our Covenant is not a "political situation"

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Renanah Goldhar <rgoldhar2@sympatico.ca> wrote:

I spoke with  Rav Perlow the Noveminker  and Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky today.  R av Perlow said that we should keep doing whatever we can

We don't have their influence and network infastructure over the masses of Jews as they do.  

but that he could not speak with me about the "political situation."  I told both Rab Perlow and Rav Kamenetsky that I was a student of the life and writings of Rabbi Dov Weissmandl of blessed memory.

 

Rav Kamenetsky was very warm and sad - it seemed to me.

He spoke about supporting the Israeli rabbis ONCE they speak out.  He said to do so first would NOT help them or the situation.

I personally spoke to Hadas Rav Eliashiv's secretary and to Rav Efrati.  They both said that if a Mishlachat of Chashuva Rabbanim including Rav Perlow, Rav Kamenetsky, Rav Matisyahoo Solomon, Rav Malkiel Kotler would come to Israel with an entourage of other chashuva Rabbanim to ask Rav Eliashiv to speak out for our entitlement of Eretz Yisroel is would be "mashpia".  My understanding is that Rav Eliashiv who is bli ayin hara around 97 years old needs to know that his people will back him up. There is no question that all the Rabbanim believe of our entitlement espeicially Rav Eliashiv.  The Novaminsker himself reported that Rav Eliashiv said that giving awy Land makes the security situation worse.  The Novaminsker himself acknowledged that Gush Katif was a disaster (at Agudah conventions last year).  Even Satmar can not disagreeof our entitlement because this is Torah.  However, all are afraid to state so publicly.  Maybe their concern is what if the Nations of the world express a backlash at the very notion of us insisting on our Land just like Pharoe made it worse for the Jews when Moshe Rabbeinu asked Pharoeh to let the Jews go.  Moshe Rabbeinu asked Hashem "Lama Hareiosa?"  Why did you make it worse after I spoke up.  Rav Eliashiv needs to know that each and every Jew wants Eretz Yisroel very badly and only then will we Am Yisroel have the Zechus of keeping Eretz Yisroel.  But if we scorn the Land after Nissim gluyim and give it away no different then Eisav scorned his Bechora for a pot of lentils then why should we expect from Hashem His Divine Povidence?

 

Well, what about the Israeli rabbinate speaking to him and asking him to speak out? 

The Israeli Rabbinate are selected by the gov't and it seems to me that they are first politicians and their halacha is based on politics.

Rabbi Weinberg, Rabbi Waldman and others?

 

Perhaps Rabbi Kamentsky meant that it had to be not individual rabbis.  Well - what about Aish Hatorah?   What about the Nir Yeshiva?

Everyone is passing the buck.  Is Rav Perlow and Rav Kamenestky willing to publicly state that the Land of Israel is our birthright and a gift from G-d. Rav Perlow is Rosh Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah and so is Rav Kamenetsky I believe.  If they can not speak up and make a difference then who can? Their leadership influences hundreds of thousands of Orthodox Jews including the more modern orthodox. Rav Kemenetsky is the spiritual mentor of the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation who reach over 50,000 Jews on Tisha Baav alone and they have the network in place to reach 1000's of Yeshivot I believe.  Of course Aish Hatorah and Nir Yeshiva should also speak up for Eretz Yisroel as should each and every Jew, man, women and child.  And they automatically would if Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah comes out with a Kol Korei.   Each child can write a letter to the White House saying this My land and we are obligated to keep, observe the Commandments such as Shemittah which is not the case for even a "peaceful, wonderful Palestinian State" and this will bring the blessings to mankind.  I see this matter  of getting the Rabbinic Leaders of our generation to speak up for Eretz Yisroel as Tikkun Chait Miraglim the test of this generation!

Urgent Action Item Response to Calling Campaign to Rav Perlow and Rav Kamenetsky

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In a previous email I wrote about a calling campaign to Rav Perlow the Noveminsker Rav as well as Rab Shmuel Kamenetsky and ask them why they remain silent when there is talks going on to give away 93% of Judea and Samaria and dividing Yerushalyim. Below are some of our readers responses to this urgent action item

Please continue to put on the pressures to those in the inner circle of Agudath Yisroel of America. The internal pressure makes a world of difference. We have inside knowledge that if a Mishlachat of Chashuva Rabbanim from Chutz LeAretz such as the Rav Perlow, Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky, Rav Matisyahoo Solomon, Rav Malkiel Kotler, etc. would send a contingent to Erez Yisroel to ask Rav Eliashiv shlita  to make a public statement regarding our entitlement of Eretz Yisroel that it would be Mashpia. 

Shoshana of Beit Shemesh writes:

Regarding the Novominsker Rav et al, I don't know whether to be shocked or not, as our Rabbanim have continued to disappoint in matters relating to Eretz Yisrael, for about 150 years now.  The question is why??

 

If you haven't already, try to read "Em HaBanim Semaicha" by HaRav Teichtal.  He was a Rav in Europe before WWII, and very stronly anti-Zionist.  The sefer he wrote, in hiding during the war, publicizes his teshuva and change of heart/mind on that  topic, and he quotes the Vilna Gaon, who says that many rabbanim are guilty of Chet HaMeraglim when it comes to their attitude toward Eretz Yisrael.  It is translated by Rav Moshe Lichtman (any other translation is without express approval of the Teichtal family) and it is fascinating.  All of the quotes in the sefer from Tanach, Gemara etc., were written from memory, as Rav Teichtal did not have access to his sefarim when he wrote it.  He was killed at the very end of the war, trying to save someone else, and the manuscript was discovered and published by his family.

 

I wish you Chodesh Tov, Ksiva v'Chasima Tova and much koach to continue your struggle for Klal Yisrael.

 

Kol tuv.

 

Shoshanna

Beit Shemesh (former New Yorker)

Rena writes:

I heard this also last night from friends who were visiting from Jerusalem.  Rab Perlow told someone not to bother him about the fact that Jerusalem was to be divided or that Judea and Samaria were going to be given away.  I guess that the gedolim who live in America don't believe in HaShem and the very miracle that He has created in bringing Jews back to Eretz Yisrael.  How can they live there?  I just don't understand.  Rena 

 

 

NO ONE LISTENS OR PAYS ATTENTION.   COULD IT BE THAT EVERYONE EXPECTS THAT HASHEM WILL DO ALL THE WORK!   IF YOU SUBSCRIBE TO WAITING FOR HASHEM THEN CONTINUE TO WAIT.  BUT IF YOU FEEL THAT HASHEM MAY BE WAITING FOR YOU THEN GET ON THE PHONE AND MAKE LOTS OF NOISE. 

Robin's response to Rena:

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Dear Rena, amv"sh

I believe that is the test of our generation.  Apparently Hashem has made the Gedolim blind.  It is for the purpose of tikkun Chait Hamiraglim and to unite religious and secular Jews in the fact that we are all as one a human and an imperfect generation when it comes to our practice of Torah. Our generation must not cry a bechiya ledorot and therefore not accept a Rabbinic and Spiritual Leadership attitude of being like grasshoppers.  It is for our Spiritual Leaders benefit and ultimately for our own that we reject this position of Silence regarding our entitlement of Eretz Yisroel and place our faulty leadership in a position of recognition and sincere regret and kabbala al haatid to speak out with clarity for Eretz Yisroel. Since indeed the Gedolim have the potential of being Gedolim Batorah together with a generation who is worthy and united and insist to show uncompromising belief in the Torah and our Covenant and not accept any other Gods (be it in the form of bribery and tuition subsidies or fear of foreign nations) that masquerade as Torah. It is not with arrogance that I say this since I see my own faults clearly and know that I too am unworthy in many areas of Torah as well.

Kol Tuv and thanks so much for writing and if you can get more information of the people who have evidence that the Gedolim are turning a blind eye, I believe it is proper to advertise it for the purpose of preventing further disengagements and tragedies upon Am Yisroel because of silence and inaction on the part of hundreds of thousands of caring Jews that follow their Rabbinic Leaders. 

Lester writes:

Dear Robyn:

I just spoke to Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky.  He listened to me patiently. I asked him for the help you are suggesting.  Asking him to think about it.  He said OK.

Yours Lester

Robin's response to Lester:

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Dear Lester, amv"sh

Thank you so much for writing!  That seems consistent with Rav Kamenetsky's  typical response.  He is polite and empathetic and I've personally spoke to him on a number of occasions but unfortunately he has not instructed the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation to speak about our entitlement to Eretz Yisroel in their programming.  Last Tisha Baav they featured Dovid Hatuel speak about retaining faith in Hashem in spite of unbelievable tragedies yet no mention was made of the Disengagement or of the fact that these terrorists committed such a horrific crime and that we must fight such terror. Dovid Hatuel himself did not mention the Disengagement and its tragedy.  He only spoke of his personal tragedy of losing his wife and children and somehow getting the strength to carry  by keeping his faith in Hashem.  I have personally called Michael Rothchild Executive Director who seems extremely empathetic but his hands apparently are tied by their Rabbinic Leadership.  I am convinced that his  organization, the Chofetz CHaim Heritage Foundation can iif they choose to do so make an unbelievable difference in fact it is for this reason alone to counter the sin of the Miraglim was this organization brought to such popularity and greatness.

This past Tisha Baav they spoke about conquering the bad MIddah of envy and no mention of the terrible decree of the Roadmap or the establishment of a Palestinian State or the sorry state of Sderot as a result of the Disengagement and the tragic consequences of our brethren if such a decree was enacted.

They speak about Ahavas Yisroel etc. but ignore the fact that we allowed Gush Katif to happen and are not preventing another Gush Katif to happen to hundreds of thousands of Jews of Judea and Samaria.  Are all these lectures merely lip service.  I would call Rabbi Kamenetsky again.  He told me on the phone that the religious Zionists believe that Eretz Yisroel is the entire Torah.  I answered him isn't Shabbat Kenegged Kol Hatorah Kulah and that Shabbat Haaretz which is Shemittah also Keneged Kol Hatorah Kula.   I remember reading a Medrash that says that Eretz Yisroel is Kenegged Kol Hatorah Kula.

If you look at Chumash from the first Rashi till the last pasuk, the entire Chumash has references to Eretz Yisroel and keeping the Mitzvoth in Eretz Yisroel.   I believe that Rav Kamenetsky should be engaged in an open debate regarding this topic and not only when he controls which questions he will answer but in an equal setting with someone that wishes to challenge his position of Silence regarding Eretz Yisroel.  Thank you for calling.

Shmuel in a voice mail said (not verbatum);

Our desire to rebuild the Temple can not be actualized if we give away Har Habayit and apparently it doesn't seem to be a consideration to Rav Perlow.  Perhaps we should choose as our Rabbinic Leaders Rav Ariel and Rav Chaim Richman of Temple Institute and to Rav Zuhn who has a Kollel to study the practical laws of  Karbanot in a practical preparation for Moshiach's arrival.

Yosef instant messaged me

I called, Rav Perlow said he didn't want to discuss it and I asked "why"? He answered that he was hanging up the phone.

 

ACTION ITEM! URGENT...Breaking News: .Latest from Rav Perlow, Rosh Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah of Agudath Yisroel

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Dear List, amv"sh

Please forward to your lists:

Motzei Shabbos Parshat Reeh 5768.   Sunday, August 31st 2008

Rav Perlow was called tonight by a fellow activist who asked him politely what about the recent developments in negotiations of giving away 93 percent of Yesha and parts of Yerushalyim and our activist was told not to bother him.

Last Thanksgiving before the  summit in Annapolis, didn't Agudath Yisroel of America, after much nudging, finally make a resolution against dividing Jerusalem.  At the time we complained that they didn't mention Judea and Samaria.  Apparently at that time the State Dept. of American  was pushing for a Palestinian State so Agudath Yisroel  felt safe speaking out for a United Jerusalem but didn't have the courage to speak out against a Palestinian State.  Now that the State Department has gone one step further and  is speaking about dividing Jerusalem, why is Agudath Yisroel Silent?  Was the resolution simply to pacify those of us that were upset that the Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah weren't speaking out with clarity for Torah?.

Who else should we bother if not Rosh Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah whose every word is followed by hundreds of thousands of Jews when the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Jews are in the making?.

If we daven to rebuild Yerushalayim and then agree to give it away when we have it, what does this mean?

Getting some annoying phone calls can not compared with the consequences of tragic proportions should these negotiations actualize.

Will tehillim rallies with the theme "We share in their Pain" be the extent of activism after the fact????? Or will we have to face our Creator on Yom Hadin because our Silence was the CAUSE of our brethren's pain?

Willl we be forced to look in the mirror and say it's because we Am Yisroel throughout the world simply couldn't care less about our birthright, our precious gift Eretz Yisroel did the tragedies happen to us and to the entire world? 

The Nations of the world, will chas vechalil mock us and say how come you were silent?  How full of shame we will feel but worse because our Silence put the entire world in danger.

ACTION ITEM:

Please call Rav Perlow the Noveminker Rav at 718-436-1133 home
Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky 215-477-1000 Yeshiva of Philadelphia 215-473-2798 home

Rav Perlow is Rosh Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah in Agudath Yisroel of America.  They have a Washington Office. They have a network of hundreds of thousands of caring Jews that can be mobilized. Simply making resolutions w/o putting the full force of the organization behind the resolution is of no real consequence.  Every school child can write a letter.  Every parent can pick up the phone to the White House.  Business as usual can be put on hold when the lives of our brethren are on the line.

Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky is the spiritual mentor of the Chofetz Chaim Heritage Foundation that reaches over 50,000 caring Jews on TIsha Baav alone.  They are networked to thousands of locations, shuls and schools throughout the world.  They too can mobilze Am Yisroel to show their love for Eretz Yisroel with concrete action and not just in a world of inspiring lectures that are not implemented.

Please email me the responses of our Rabbanim to your cry for help so that it is documented.

Israel Kaplan writes:

PRAYING THREE TIMES A DAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.   GRACE AFTER MEALS WITH GREAT EMPHASIS ON THE REBUILDING OF JERUSALEM.  THE THOUSANDS OF YOUNG MEN IN 1967 THAT SELFLESSLY AND BRAVELY FOUGHT TO THEIR DEATH IN ORDER TO RECAPTURE JERUSALEM KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ALIVE TO SHARE IN THE REGROWTH PROCESS . THE SLOGAN THAT HAS BEEN ON THE LIPS OF EVERY MAJOR JEWISH ORGANIZATION SINCE 1967 "JERUSALEM: THE UNDIVIDED CAPITAL OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE. 

 

AND NOW THE NIGHTMARE OF NIGHTMARES:  THE HEADS OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL ARE NEGOTIATING IT AWAY IN FULL VIEW OF THE WORLD.  COULD THIS BE HAPPENING?  

 

IN SHUL TODAY A FRIEND APPROACHES ME AFTER READING THE ISRAEL NEWS AND REMARKS TO ME.   WHEN RABBI BEREL WEIN NOTED JEWISH HISTORIAN WRITES THE HISTORY OF THESE DAYS WILL HE MENTION HOW THE SHAS PARTY ALLOWED THE OLMERT GOVT. TO GIVE AWAY YERUSHALAYIM?

POINTING FINGERS AT THE POLITICIANS IS FAR TOO EASY AND LETS WORLD JEWRY OFF THE HOOK.   THE DEAFENING SILENCE OF WORLD JEWRY, MAJOR JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS, ZIONIST INSTITUTIONS PROVIDE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH REASON NOT BE CONCERNED.   MAY BE JUST TOO LATE TO CRY WHEN 30,000 IDF WEARING BLACK, ROBOTICALLY  REMOVE JEWS FROM THEIR HOMES AND YESHIVOT, THE SAME WAY THEY REMOVED THE JEWS FROM GAZA. 

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Resolution Adopted at Agudath Israel's 85th National Convention

November 26, 2007

WHEREAS, the American government is convening a conference later this week in Annapolis, Maryland in an effort to promote Middle East peace, and particularly to move Israel and the Palestinian Authority toward a final peace agreement; and

WHEREAS, the American government is reportedly urging the parties to proceed to the "final status issues" that remain to be negotiated, including sovereignty over the holy city of Jerusalem; and

WHEREAS, the delegates to the 85th national convention of Agudath Israel of America, following the direction of Agudath Israel's rabbinic leadership, and for reasons relating to considerations of security as well as the singular place Jerusalem has always occupied in Jewish religious and communal life, are deeply pained and concerned about the prospect of Israel relinquishing parts of Jerusalem to Palestinian sovereignty.

NOW, THEREFORE, the delegates to the 85th national convention of Agudath Israel of America hereby resolve that Agudath Israel of America, under the direction of its rabbinic leadership, should communicate to appropriate government officials the organization's strong belief that, for the reasons set forth above, Israel should not relinquish parts of Jerusalem to Palestinian sovereignty, and the American government should not pressure the Israeli government into doing so.

(November 25, 2007 - Stamford, CT)

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Brachot and Klalot are a direct consequence of keeping or not keeping the Mitzvoth.  We have free choice.  Time for Cheshbon Hanefesh!  Did we do Teruma, Maaser, Vidui Maaser and Shemitas Kesafim as the Torah specified?  Let the Moetzet Gedolei Hatorah, focus on the words of the Torah and the implications of keeping the Mitzvoth of the Torah, which requires sovereignty of the Land, rather than on playing  politics!

Please forward to your lists!

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Dear List, amv"sh

 

Attached please find the flier that we will distribute all over.  Feel free to download and distribute.  Thanks  Robin

 

5768.11.05 Israel the Land of My Possession Arieh Eldad speaking with strength. Mattot Arim, Soldier says I"m Sorry.

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5 Av 5768

Wednesday, 6 August 2008

1.  Using a decisive military option in Gaza rather than capitulating to terror.  Arieh Eldad

2. Mattot Arim newsletter.  Urgent Action items.

3. Soldier "indoctrinated" by govt to help them expel Jews, expresses remorse..

4. More on the Pollard Court Petition
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1.  Using a decisive military option in Gaza rather than capitulating to terror.  Arieh Eldad www.ynetnews.com*

Ongoing debate on Shalit prisoner swap diverts attention from military option

By Arieh Eldad

07.30.08

Gilad Shalit has been in captivity for more than two years now. The
media is replete with harsh descriptions regarding the conditions his
captors are holding him in – a cellar or a narrow tunnel, without any
daylight. I don't know what the source of these descriptions is and
whether they are based on intelligence information or imagination.
However, there is no doubt that we need to get Shalit back home.

The debate seemingly focuses on how many terrorists should be
released for him and how much blood we may accept on their hands. Is
it moral to free hundreds of terrorists when everyone knows that
anywhere between a third and a half of them will attempt to kill Jews
again?

In our cemeteries one can find hundreds of buried Jews who were
murdered by those released from Israeli prison in these types of
tainted deals. Yet the debate regarding the number of prisoners and
blood on their hands diverts it from what should be its main focus:
The military option.

The Gaza Strip is a terror hub established through the folly of
Israeli governments and by ignoring our national and security
interests. This terror hub can be dismantled, however. We can fix
what we ruined. Yet the
correction has to start from this point. Capitulation to Arab
terrorism in the form of Hamas' Gaza regime paves the way for a
complete Arab victory over Israel. What's hanging in the balance is
no longer Shalit's release,
but rather, the State of Israel's liberation. Israel is a hostage at
this time. Moreover, the Gaza Strip is within arm's reach; within
walking distance.

In the 1970s and 1980s Israel scored important victories against
terror; these triumphs often exacted a heavy human toll, as was the
case with the hijacked bus on the Coastal Road and the hostage-taking
in Maalot. We even went as far as Uganda in order to rescue our
hostages. Yet there is no doubt that had Olmert and his spineless
government were leading Israel at the time, we wouldn't even be
considering a military move: Because of the distance and risk.
Instead, we would have released thousands of terrorists. Yet during
those days, capitulation to terrorism wasn't an option.

Even when IDF soldier Nachshon Waxman was abducted, Israel's leaders
chose a risky military operation that ultimately ended in failure –
the captive was killed, as did Nir Poraz, a Sayeret Matkal officer
who died during the
rescue operation. Yet the message conveyed to terror groups was that
Israel does not capitulate to terror.

There is a military option There is a military option in Gaza. We can
issue an ultimatum to Hamas that Israel would assassinate one of its
leaders in Gaza or elsewhere every day if Gilad Shalit is not
released at once. We can embark on a targeted operation based on
existing intelligence information, or a broad operation if we lack
such accurate intelligence information. We can kill every terrorist
on the way, go from one house to the next, and while we're at it blow
up Qassam rocket workshops, arms caches, and tunnels. We can
pulverize Hamas in Gaza as we pulverized the PLO in the First Lebanon
War, and unlike what we did to Hizbullah in the Second Lebanon War
(the reason we didn't do it was not lack of power, but rather,
deficient political and military leadership.)

The alternative is not only capitulation to terror and the release of
thousands of murderers. The alternative is reconciling ourselves to
Hamas' military buildup and fortification, until its rockets reach
Tel Aviv and Dimona – then, we shall have to enter Gaza and pay a
much greater price because of our current cowardice, hesitation, and
flawed political considerations, which come in place of decisive
national considerations.

Gilad Shalit must not become the reason for avoiding a war on terror.
If this materializes and this is the way adopted by Israel, terror
groups will realize that they found the way not only to release the
murderers in our
jails, but also "their entire Palestine."

Tomorrow, more soldiers will be abducted for the sake of Mount Dov
(which they refer to as the Shebaa Farms,) and two days from now,
they will kidnap more troops and demand that we withdraw from Hebron.
They will demand Temple Mount in exchange for several abducted
civilians, and if, heaven forbid, they take over a kindergarten,
they'll demand Arab autonomy in the Galilee.

There is no logical reason for them to stop, unless we stop and say: No more.


Knesset Member Arieh Eldad, National Union-NRP

2. Mattot Arim newsletter.  Urgent Action items.

KFAR SABA-ites: PLEASE BE IN THE KFAR SABA COURTHOUSE WHILE RIVKA MEIRCHIK IS JUDGED TOMORROW!

Kfar Saba court-case of still-under-arrest Rivka Meirchik, dissident from an outpost. TOMORROW 6 August, 11:30 AM, Kfar Saba courthouse 3 minutes walk from Zomet Raanana. It's behind the police station -- ask any local person. Call  09-7474747 which is the Court switchboard, before you leave the house tomorrow morning,   just in case the time has changed. Afterwards, if possible, write your detailed impressions to sddym@bezeqint.net since this is sometimes useful for Honenu to have. Thanks.

TISHA BE-AV -- HERE'S A KINA FOR GUSH KATIF  Courtesy of Machon Meir. Thanks to Weizmann Institute's Clifford Felder for reminding us about this one. Print out 20 - 30 copies from here:  http://machonshilo.org/PDF/Machon_Shilo_Gush_Katif_Kinna.pdf and bring it to your Bet Knesset on Tisha beAv. Thank you. 

TISHA B'AV NITE (SAT NITE): WALK AROUND THE WALLS OF THE OLD CITY WITH WOMEN IN GREEN
Commemorating the destruction of the Temple; Yamit;  Gush Katif & Northern Samaria. This Sat. nite (Motzei Shabat Hazon), August 9
21:45: Eicha reading, Safra Sq. 22:30 Walk, led by Rabbi Israel Ariel, MK Prof. Arieh Eldad, Atty Elyakim Haetzni & Dudu Elharar, near the New, Damascus & the Flower Gates. Ending at the Dung gate near the Kotel. We have a police permit. http://www.womeningreen.org Women in Green 

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ALSO -- tours to the East of the Jordan (which is also part of Eretz Yisrael, just to refresh our collective memories) and Hebron thru the Gush Etzion Field School: 02-9935133 או http://www.k-etzion.co.il/.

THE JEWISH PARTISANS OF LITHUANIA -- LIKE THE YESHA SETTLERS -- ARE NOW BEING CRIMINALIZED
The double standard you see all the time in Israel (settlers are "criminal", Palestinians -- despite their 70% approval rating of suicide bombing -- are not), has now reached Europe. The Government of Lithuania has recently instituted judicial investigations into "crimes" committed by  Jewish partisans during World War II. Lithuania killed one of the highest proportions of Jews to population from all of Europe, but only three of these Nazi collaborators were ever tried. Instead, Jewish partisans, two from Lithuania and one from Israel, are being interrogated. "The murderers are now becoming national heroes and we, the few surviving victims who took arms and fought murderers, are under investigation as criminals," said former Yad Vashem chairman Yitzhak Arad, the Israeli partisan being investigated. 

Write to the Lithuanian Ambassador audrius.bruzga@ltembassyus.org, cc Rosian@Zerner.com (daughter of partisan Paul Bagriansky) demanding that all the charges against the partisans be dropped. Example text: "I am writing on behalf of Holocaust survivors, their descendants and others who consider the partisans of World War II as heroes.  We urge you to immediately cease the interrogation of Jewish partisans in Lithuania. This probe seems obviously anti-Semitic, against brave men and women who fought for the freedom of all Lithuanians from totalitarian Fascism." (name, address, if you are a Holocaust survivor please include your country/camps). 

MARK YOUR CALENDAR -- SEPTEMBER 1, 2008, BAGATZ TO STOP KNESSET PAYMENTS (!) to ACCUSED HIZBULLAH SPY: Arab Knesset member Azmi Beshara is suspect of spying for Hezbolla during the 2nd Lebanon war. The World Likud movement has appealed to the Israeli Supreme Court asking it to order the Knesset to stop all benefits and pension payments Beshara was entitled to as a former MK up until now. 1 September 2008 in the High Court of Justice in Jerusalem. Danny Danon from World Likud invites everybody to attend. Read more: World Likud Campaigns against Bishara (From the Jerusalem Post

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3. Soldier "indoctrinated" by govt to help them expel Jews, expresses remorse..

One of the soldiers who took part in the expulsion, a female now in her 20s, wrote a letter expressing her pain, profound remorse, and the need to share her feelings of guilt
for taking part in the government'Äôs uprooting of Jews from their home.

In an interview on Kol Chai Radio, the anonymous former soldier, now
in her 20s, explained how she was indoctrinated by the government,
bringing her to a level of insensitively which permitted her to act in
accordance to the government's, police and IDF orders. Today, she
seeks the forgiveness of those whose lives she helped to destroy,
calling on soldiers to disobey orders should there ever be a repeat of
the expulsion events chas v'sholom. She painfully recounted her
actions in Kfar Darom, explaining how the children cried and she tried
to understand why this was all happening.

She opened an email account and has asked people to write to her to
express their feelings regarding her legitimate effort to mend fences.

Imsorry6@gmail.com

(Yechiel Spira 'Äì YWN Israel) sent by rosewalk@ooncentric.net

4. More on the Pollard Court Petition

Israeli agent, Jonathan Pollard, who is completing his 23rd year of a
life sentence in the United States for his service to Israel, on
Monday, filed a lawsuit in Tel-Aviv District Court seeking
Declaratory Relief.

Pollard's lawsuit aims to set the record, once and for all, that he
and his wife, Esther, have never received any money whatsoever from
the State of Israel, from the day of his arrest to the present.

In his lawsuit Pollard states from the outset, that neither he nor
his wife are interested in receiving money from the State - that his
sole purpose in bring suit against the Government of Israel is to put
an end to the lies it disseminates, lies which have been severely
undermining the public struggle for his release.

In an unprecedented move Pollard turns to the Tel Aviv District Court
today in order to refute the state's allegations, according to which,
Jonathan and his wife Esther have been getting money from Israel for
years. Pollard demonstrates in his lawsuit that the Government is
lying to the media, to the public and the to the Courts when it
states, repeatedly and in every public venue imaginable, that it
supports him and his wife, that it makes resources available to them
and that it provides them with funds. Pollard states unequivocally
and offers proof that neither he nor his wife has ever received a
cent from the Government of Israel.

Pollard's lawsuit demonstrates that the false statements and claims
of the State about the issue of money  are intended to obscure from
public scrutiny the fact that the State has not made the most minimal
effort to secure his release from prison; and that they are also
intended to blacken his reputation and that of his wife, Esther
Pollard, in the eyes of the public, by portraying them as people
whose sole motivation is a desire to elicit monetary support from the
State - which is patently false. In defaming him this way, Pollard
states, the State of Israel is effectively preventing him from
galvanizing public support to help secure his release from prison.

Pollard is represented by attorney Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, director
of "Shurat HaDin - Israel Law Center", and attorney Roy Kohavi.

According to the lawsuit, Pollard has done everything he possibly
could to get the State of Israel to stop lying, by claiming that it
helps him financially or in any other way. He has turned to the
Supreme Court, which refused to help on the grounds that the issue is
political. He has turned to the State Comptroller, who told his
attorney that he is not empowered to investigate this issue, that his
mandate from the Knesset limits him only to expressing an opinion,
not to investigating. Again in order to try to stop the lies, Pollard
(via his attorney) turned to the State and asked for a detailed
accounting of the funds they claim they are providing to him and his
wife.  The requests for information made to the Prime Minister's
office were declined based on bizarre excuses such as "the
individual's right to privacy", "sensitivity issues", and "for fear
it will harm Pollard's own good and Israel's efforts to assist him".

The lawsuit maintains that Pollard and his wife, Esther, have been
abandoned by the State. It points out that they live in grave
distress, both financially and in general. All of their expenses are
funded by what little money Pollard's wife, Esther, has, and with the
support of a few close friends.

The lawsuit reveals, for the first time, a letter from then-Prime
Minister and Defense Minister Ehud Barak to MK Rechavam Ze'evi, which
states unequivocally that the State of Israel does NOT give any money
to Pollard and does not have a bank account for him.

According to Pollard's attorney, attorney Nitsana Darshan-Leitner,
"the State is throwing sand in the public's eyes and is shamelessly
lying to the court when it claims it financially supports Pollard and
his wife. The state cannot go on deceiving the public by making it
believe that it does anything for Pollard. Not only did the State
abandon Pollard for 23 years, it also has the audacity to lie about
it. If the State ever gave one shekel to Pollard or his wife - let it
prove it! We know the truth, and it will come to light in the
courtroom."

According to Esther Pollard, "This week, it is Jonathan's 54th
birthday. Had the State of Israel made the slightest effort, Jonathan
would be here, celebrating his birthday at home in Jerusalem.
Instead, he is "celebrating" by being forced to sue the State of
Israel to try to stop the campaign of lies it is waging against him."

(Yechiel Spira ñ YWN Israel)

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