Thursday, July 12, 2012

Fwd: The Holocaust List!

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 VERY sad, unbelievable....
Click here: YouTube - CBS  Holocaust Part I
 
Click here: YouTube - CBS  Holocaust Part 2

 
This  story was aired on CBS on "60 MINUTES" ** about a long-secret German  archive that houses a treasure trove of information on 17.5 million victims of the Holocaust. The archive, located in the German town of Bad  Arolsen , is massive (there are 16 miles of shelving containing 50 million  pages of documents) and until recently, was off-limits to the public. But after the German government agreed earlier this year to open the archives,  CBS News' Scott Pelley traveled there with three Jewish survivors who were  able to see their own Holocaust records. It's an incredibly moving piece,  all the more poignant in the wake of the meeting of Holocaust deniers in Iran and the denial speeches in the UN. We're trying to get word out about  the story to people who have a special interest in this  subject.

 

It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated with the German and Russia peoples looking the other way! Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be "a myth," it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012

Yes to MK Hatoveli Bill, No to MK Katz Bill and Uprooting large scale settlement, proclaim our entitlement of all of Eretz Yisroel rather than politics and deals!

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Dear Knesset Members, amv"sh

Yasher Koach  - Kudos to MK HATOVELI! 


MK Hotovely to submit a bill which adopts the principles of a report that states Judea and Samaria are not "occupied territories."The committee, which was headed by retired Supreme Court justice Edmund Levy, concluded that from a historical and legal prospective, and considering agreements with the Palestinian Authority, the international law against "occupation" does not apply to Judea and Samaria. Please read:

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Robin's comments:

I hate politics for good reason but Hatoveli has restored some of my faith in Israeli MK's and earned my respect and my full admiration for putting the Edmund Levy Report in center stage and for introducing a bill calling for Israel to adopt the recommendations of this report!  Yasher Koach as well to Esther Levens of UCI, Arlene Kushner, Mattot Arim, AFSI, Arutz7 and all those who have been publicizing this historic report!

Simple Faith, Emuna Peshuta is our only answer.    

What MK's and MInisters should be doing is precisely what Hatoveli is doing and that is to PUBLICLY support and applaud the NO OCCUPATION Report and not to even suggest any reason to destroy any settlement in Judea and Samaria  at ANY PRICE!  

Because of past experiences, I have lost faith in Netanyahu.  Good people in Likud like Hatoveli, and Feiglin MK supporters should assess whether Netanyahu will pull the wool over our eyes once again.  I am not alone in being cynical. 

A fellow activist wrote to me regarding Netanyahus likely response towards the upcoming conference in Hebron tomorrow iyh to annex Judea and Samaria. 

 They will make a show that "even" the prime minister is behind it  [Annexing Judea and Samaria]. Then when it is refused, the PM can make a show of being upset and blaming legal injustice. Then when the show is over, the bulldozers will be back at work with the Prime Minister wringing his hands crying:"What can I do? What can I do?" When he is the prime mover behind the whole scheme. 

You can't petition a court that is owned by the government.

Dear Knesset Members.  What do you think? How will Netanyahu respond to the pressures of the State Dept against Edmund Levy's Report????? 

State Dept Objects to Levy Committee's Legalizing Outposts

Let us put an end to MK's and PM's "putting on shows"!

MK's must insist that Netanyahu  proves that he supports this bill and act on its recommendations to legalize the settlements of Judea and Samaria at the risk of losing his coalition.  Surely otherwise,  Netanyahu will buckle to the whims of the State Dept.  

MK Katz is one of Yesha's greatest Leaders and supporters. But,  NOT his recent stupid political maneuverings and backroom deals in cahoots with professionals political maneuverers UTJ and SHAS ministers. 

Why is one of Yesha's strongest supporters in the Knesset MK Katz wasting time and energy to play political games that in principle undermines the very basis of our rights to settle in Judea and Samaria.



Can someone's love, blood, sweat and tears have a price tag? Does any part of Eretz Yisroel have a price tag? 

It's just a show.  MK Katz is against the dismantling and destruction of any Jewish Settlement. Surely, MK Katz figures that the gov't would find this pre condition too costly and would never actually implement it.  Surely he figures that by the time the gov't gets around to actually rebuilding the community, they will realize it's just not worth the effort.  Surely he figures that it's impossible to do this large scale.  Practically, therefore, such a plan will never actualize and a community will be saved.  Surely he figures that the end justifies the means.

This kind of reasoning was similar to Netanyahu who agreed to the 2 State Solution on condition that our "Peace Partners" accept Israel as a Sovereign Nation knowing they will never agree. Many considered and still considers Netanyahu as an astute and wise politician that has learned to "play the game". 

But the foundation of such deals is built on the premise that if the other side fulfills the precondition then it would be ok to give away parts of EY.  There lies the fault of such a deal.  In principle it is untrue because it goes against Divine Will and our Covenant with G-d. 

Rather than accomplishing his goal, Netanyahu  succeeded in convincing himself and others that the 2 State solution is indeed a good idea.  He strives to prove to his adversaries that his proposal for peace was sincere and everyone including himself is slowly forgetting the precondition ...

By actually agreeing to dislocate the settlements at a price, MK Katz weakens in principle the greatest victory the settlers have ever had and that is the "NO OCCUPATION" Report! Let him backtrack and denounce any plan to displace Jewish settlement in Judea and Samaria under any price!


Today I heard on Radio Hidabroot from one of their Rabbanim (perhaps Reb BenZion Platzko but I'm not sure) that the people get the leadership they deserve.  Even when a leader wants to lead the proper way, as soon as they are in power they lose their ability to lead in the way they  personally prefer when those whom they are leading are not worthy. They therefore will lead according to the way the people deserve. Perhaps this is why Begin and Sharon were unable to lead once they got into power. 

 I see disturbing trends among the finest and the best Yesha has to offer who finally are getting some recognition.    Women in Green Conference talking about granting masses of Arabs Israeli Citizenship while annexing Judea and Samaria, MK KATZ agrees to dismantle settlements as long as they are given something of equal value.  Hebron Leaders and Shomron Leaders publicly silent when Sheikh Farid al-Jabari of Hebron invites them into his tent and says "The land belongs to God and the entire Muslim world".  After all, the Sheikh is our friend because he, unlike others,  agrees in principle to allow Jews to  stay on the Land, to live side by side, and not be displaced.

Where is the voice of the Rabbanim influenced with the spirit of Hebron guiding the people that will make Israel a Nation worthy of Righteous Leaders who proudly stand up for G-d's Covenant? There is no shortcut!  Each and every Jew in Diaspora and in Israel must help to bring the Geula by proving our worthiness. Let us publicize and then put our money where our mouth is by helping to validate, and justify the building of each and every orchard, vineyard, flock of sheep grazing, outpost, settlement and community in Judea and Samaria and by extension all of Eretz YIsroel!

Yehiyu LeRazon Imrei Fi Vehegyon Libi Lefanecha Hashem Tzuri VeGoali. May the words of my mouth and the meditations of my heart. Be acceptable to you, O God, my Rock and my Redeemer


Sincerely,

Robin Ticker
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Sunday, July 08, 2012

Dear Friends of Hebron and the Shomron! Beware of making a Covenant with the inhabitants of the Land and giving them a foothold! Zocher Habrit! Remember the Shabbat

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Please read about this recent meeting called by Sheikh Farid Al -Jabari of Hebron!  Four years ago, Jabari had prevented Palestinians and anarchists from destroying the Hazon David synagogue, a small outpost on the edge of Hebron. True we owe him a debt of gratitude for saving the shul.  But how steep a price?  We must not remain silent when he declares Hebron and Tel Aviv belongs to the Muslin World given to them by G-d! 


 Sheikh Farid al-Jabari of Hebron meets with Noam Arnon,  Dovid Wilder, spokesmen of Hebron and Gershon Mesika and David HaIvri of the Shomron Liason Council, among others, whom Jabari hosted in an unusual gathering of Palestinians, settlers and conservative European parliamentarians on Thursday afternoon July 5,2012 in his large tent, set back from the road in the South Hebron Hills.and said


..."There won't be two states," he said, as he looked out at the surrounding hills through an open flap in the tent. It is not possible, because Islam does not allow its followers to relinquish land, he said.

"In our religion, Tel Aviv is like Hebron," he said.  The land belongs to God and the entire Muslim world, he said.

Uh Oh!  Did the Jews who attended this meeting reply with the first Rashi of Breishit? Did they loudly proclaim that the Land belongs to G-d and He gives it the Jewish People on condition that we keep the Commandments? We demonstrate such with our obligation to keep the Mitzvah Shemittah.  

Will Jabari and his people keep Shemittah? Not Relevant You Say??  

The Torah is always relevant!

Shabbat Haaretz like the day Shabbat is only meant for Zera Yaakov, the seed of Yaakov, as we say in the Sabbath Shacharit prayer "And Hashem our G-d did not give the Sabbath to the nations of the lands, nor did Our King make it the inheritance of worshipers of idols, and also the uncircumcised will not be sheltered in its rest.  For Your People Israel, G-d has given it with love, to the seed of Yaakov, whom You have chosen, the people that sanctifies the Shvii the Seventh, all of them will be satisfied and will be delighted from Your goodness, and the Shvil, the seventh, You were pleased with it and sanctified it, most coveted days, You called it, a remembrance of the act of Creation.  

These words apply to Shabbat Haaretz and not only the day Shabbat as it says in Sefer VaYikra, Parashat Behar, Perek 26, Pasuk 2, the Torah tells us "Et Shabtotai Tishmoru UMikdashi Tirau." You should keep my Shabbats (in the plural). 

Holiness, Sanctity is connected with the number 7.  The Sabbath.  The Military camp must be Holy as well.  Sanctification, Kedusha, means that there is a unique and special relationship whereby others are excluded.  Kiddushin, a marriage between man and his wife excludes all others. The Holy Temple was surrounded with guards.  Shomrim.  There was no trespassing of the designated camps of Israelites, Levites and Kohanim at the risk of death.  The Priest and Levites were commanded to do guard duty day and night.  The closer one got to the Holy of Holies, the greater the number of exclusions.

Shiekh Jabari is only  repeating the lie perpetuated by the UN, by Obama, by the EU and even by Jews like the ones funded  by NIF. .  We know that the truth is that The Land belongs to G-d and G-d has given the Promised Land to the Chosen People, the seed of Yaakov based on G-d's Covenant with Yaakov, Yitzchok and Avrahom.  G-d did not give the Land of Israel to the Muslims.  In Selichos we say Vayikra 26 Pasuk (42) "Vezacharti as Brisi Yaakov, Veaf as Brisi Yitzchok, Veaf es Brisi Avraham Ezkor, Vehaaretz Ezkor". I will remember My Covenant with Jacob and also My covenant with Isaac, and also My covenant with Abraham will I remember, and I will remember the Land. (43)The Land will be bereft of them; and it will be appeased for its sabbaticals having become desolate of them; and they must gain appeasement for their iniquity, because they were revolted by My ordinances and because their spirit rejected My decrees.

Our debate is as follows:  Is the Land of Israel first a Democracy and then Jewish or is first Jewish and then a Democracy?  Jabari wants it to be a Democracy first and then under this umbrella, let Jews and Muslims live in peace and harmony.  This aint gonna work!!!!!! Deuteronomy 7:1-2, When the Lord…casts out many nations before you…make no covenant with them and give them no foothold…

For the same reason we can not allow Arabs to have equal voting rights.  We can not allow Arabs to have guns in order to protect us.  

All Jews whether they reside in Israel or the Diaspora, whether they are Secular, Religious or Chareidi must share the duties and honor of protecting the Land of Israel.  In so doing, it must be a HOLY CAMP i.e. a HOLY Military Camp! How will drafting non Jews contribute to the Holiness of Israel's Military camp?  Those who have recently built a house or  planted a vinyard or betrothed a women and did not consecrate or is fainthearted are exempt. Otherwise it is an obligation especially in a Milchemet Mitzvah to be in the army. Surely we do not welcome any impostors who wish to do us harm.  

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Wednesday, July 04, 2012

re: Arabs citizenship - Stay on track and don't lose sight of your goal BEFORE THE CONFERENCE BEGINS read this!


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Dear Mr. Wise, Nadia and Yehudit, amv"sh

(Mr. Wise's article forwarded by Women in Green entitled "Should Israel apply Sovereignty to all of Yehuda and Shomron" is printed below the double dotted lines)

You are overly emphasizing the demographic issue. Arab demography is irrelevant. If Arabs have equal voting rights as Israeli citizens then there is a reason to address the demographics.  They can not have equal status as Jews.  I think you need to get back on the right track.  You have a goal but like a spaceship going to the moon even 1 degree off will miss the target.  Please watch Glenn Beck video to give you the strength.


Demography should not be a factor.  Israel must assert her rights based on the fact that it is G-d given land to the Jewish People exclusive of all other nations.  Non Jews have a right to live in the Land of Israel and they do have rights.  However, our tradition and our Biblical and Rabbinic sources are quite clear that they are of a different status and their rights are not equal to that of Jewish descent or those that are righteous Jewish converts.  

Therefore, we need not concern ourselves regarding the population growth of an Arab population whether or not they are hostile.  Our goal should be as follows: If Arabs are hostile then they themselves will not find themselves welcome in Israel and they themselves will want to leave or face the natural negative consequences of Israeli law of any anti Israel education or any aggression against  Israel or Israeli citizens or the rights of Israeli citizens. They,  the Ger Toshav (Non Jewish residents of Israel) clearly must be proud of their Israeli affiliation and their status of being a  Ger Toshav (non Jewish Resident) of Israel.  A pledge of Allegiance of America  is a prerequisite of being an American citizen. That is a reasonable and  accepted given.  Israel need not tolerate those who hate Israel.  Leave a door open and let anyone that wishes to leave, leave.  There are any one of the existing 22 Arab and even more Muslim States to choose from.  These Muslim countries, as you surely know have closed the door to Jews. They might close the door on their own brothers but why do we need to be more hospitable then they are to themselves at OUR expense????Take your cue from the conquest of Joshua as per what choices were given the inhabitants of Canaan. (Read The Midrash Says or the Little Medrash says),  WATCH GLENN BECK TO REMIND YOURSELF WHY ISRAEL SHOULD NOT TOLERATE OR GRANT RIGHTS TO THOSE WHO DENY RIGHTS TO OTHERS. It would only diminish what is good in the world. 

Now to address what Zahava Engard wrote. Please visit this link. 

 

Please go back to JEWISH sources relevant to the laws regarding Ger Toshav as your model. 

Please read the following from

 R Isseroff rsisseroff@yahoo.com wrote


If Israel takes back the land, there will have to be provision for Arabs who want to stay. Such as the Druse in Ghajar (Rajar), etc. Why not have a provisional citizenship that is minus army service, etc? There was in days of yore such a thing.

It was a "Chaver" status that Beis Din granted non-Jews who lived in Eretz Yisrael. The condition was that they agree to keep sheva mitzvot bnei Noach.

A similar thing could be redone today. Some will want to keep sheva mitzvos of Noach. Others will simply have to abide by Israeli law. Others will simply have to leave, as their policies of killing Jews are unacceptable...

It would never work under the present government. Only under a religious government could this work. They would pervert the idea making service in the Army mandatory. They would even extend it to electing Arabs to be in the government. Suddenly, you would have Arabs having a say in how the state is run, as is the situation today.
Raanan

Is Professor Paul Eidelberg invited to this Conference in Hebron?  I believe he can add a lot to the discussion!
Israel's Territorial Syndrome: Part I
 
Prof. Paul Eidelberg
 
A group of "right wing" activists, including prominent lawyers, intellectuals, and journalists, has responded enthusiastically to Women in Green's clarion call to get to the "root" of the Israel-Palestinian problem. What precisely is the "root" of that problem? The activists agree with Nadia Matar that "Albeit 45 years late, it's time for the government of Israel to pursue an initiative that would extend its sovereignty over Judea and Samaria, which would include granting the Arab residents in the area Israeli citizenship."
 
Encouraging these high-minded activists is a groundbreaking study of the American-Israel Demographic Research Group (www.aidrg.com) which was publicized even before the August 2005 expulsion of Jews from Gaza. The study concludes that there is no need to retreat from Judea and Samaria in order to secure Jewish demography. This gloomy perception was based on the assumption that Jews are, "ostensibly, doomed to become a minority between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean." However, the AIDRG study shows that as a result of a declining Arab birthrate on the one hand, and an increasing Jewish birthrate on the other, the Jews would have a substantial demographic majority if the Netanyahu government extended Jewish sovereignty over Judea and Samaria even if the Arabs therein are granted Israeli citizenship.
 
Of course, the right-wing activist entertain the idea that these Arab citizens would pledge their loyalty to the Jewish state—a dubious expectation given the demonstrable fact that these Arabs are so anti-Israel that many used their own children as human bombs to kill Jews.
 
Given this nasty (but trivialized) fact aside, let's try a thought experiment. Suppose two polls were conducted to ascertain the attitude of these Arabs as to whether they would agree to be citizens of a Jewish state—one poll conducted by an Israeli, the other by an Arab. Inasmuch as the entire world supports the establishment of an independent Arab nation-state in Judea and Samaria, and since Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has himself endorsed the creation of such a state, what do you think would be the response of these Arabs to each of said polls? I leave the reader to answer this question. Have the right-wing activists considered this thought experiment?
 
Netanyahu wants the Arabs to recognize the Jewish state of Israel. What does this mean? Wouldn't these Arabs, who are Muslims, have to renounce their religion or scriptures? What would happen to a "Palestinian" leader or diplomat who recognized Israel as a Jewish state? How would he be regarded by the rest of the Muslim world? Would he suffer the fate of Anwar Sadat?  No less than Yasser Arafat once said he was speaking not merely for the Palestinians. Can you really believe that the PLO-Palestinian Authority, a consortium of terrorist organization, would turn their backs on a 1,400 year history punctuated by politicide and genocide as well as by the most obscene Jew-hatred? Would they turn their swords into plowshares and become bourgeois democrats ala Bibi Netanyahu?
 
Evident here is not only desperate denial of reality but also a blatant insult to Islam, as Jabotinsky elaborates in The Iron Wall (1923):  
   
To think that the Arabs will voluntarily consent to the realization of Zionism in return for the cultural and economic benefits we can bestow on them is infantile. This childish fantasy … comes from some kind of contempt for the Arab people, of some kind of unfounded view of this race as a rabble ready to be bribed in order to sell out their homeland for a railroad network.


 
This view is absolutely groundless. Individual Arabs may perhaps be bought off but this hardly means that all the Arabs in Eretz Israel are willing to sell a patriotism that not even Papuans will trade. Every indigenous people will resist alien settlers as long as they see any hope of ridding themselves of the danger of foreign settlement….
 
Another point … The vast areas of the U.S. never contained more than one or two million Indians. The inhabitants fought the white settlers not out of fear that they might be expropriated, but simply because there has never been an indigenous inhabitant anywhere or at any time who has ever accepted the settlement of others in his country. Any native people – it's all the same whether they are civilized or savage – views their country as their national home, of which they will always be the complete masters. They will not voluntarily allow not only a new master, but even a new partner. And so it is for the Arabs. Compromisers in our midst attempt to convince us that the Arabs are some kind of fools who can be tricked by a softened formulation of our goals, or a tribe of money grubbers who will abandon their birth right to Palestine for cultural and economic gains. I flatly reject this assessment of the Palestinian Arabs….
 
Thus we conclude that we cannot promise anything to the Arabs of the Land of Israel or the Arab countries. Their voluntary agreement is out of the question. Hence those who hold that an agreement with the natives is an essential condition for Zionism can now say "no" and depart from Zionism. Zionist colonization, even the most restricted, must either be terminated or carried out in defiance of the will of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, continue and develop only under the protection of a force independent of the local population – an iron wall which the native population cannot break through. This is, in toto, our policy towards the Arabs. To formulate it any other way would only be hypocrisy….
 
All this does not mean that any kind of agreement is impossible, only a voluntary agreement is impossible…. But the only path to such an agreement is the iron wall, that is to say the strengthening in Palestine of a government without any kind of Arab influence, that is to say one against which the Arabs will fight. In other words, for us the only path to an agreement in the future is an absolute refusal of any attempts at an agreement now.
 
(Part II of this essay will show that the activists mentioned above fail to see that Israel's preoccupation with the territorial issue obscures Israel's paramount issue, which is How to make Israel an authentic Jewish state. Lacking both practical and theoretical knowledge, they do not address the question of how to make Israel more Jewish by means of democratic principles, and how to make Israel more democratic by means of Jewish principles. Therein is the solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

(To be continued)

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Should Israel apply sovereignty over all of Yehuda and Shomron?
Michael L. Wise,   mlwise@gmail.com


The dream of two states for two peoples will not realized in the tiny
parcel of land that lies between the Jordan River and the
Mediterranean.

The vision of Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat, Yossi Beilin and the EU,
Dennis Ross and Foggy Bottom, Ron Lauder and the "Jewish People Policy
Planning Institute", is unacceptable to the leaders of the Muslim
world, to the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah and to
global Jihadists.

Events surrounding the 1915-1916 MacMahon-Hussein Correspondence,
outbreaks of violence between 1920-1936, the 1937 Peel commission, the
1939 MacDonald White Paper, the 1947 UN partition plan, Menachem
Begin's autonomy plan, Oslo, Intifadas, roadmaps and various two state
initiatives demonstrate the futility of expecting any Arab leader
coming to terms with Jewish sovereignty over any part of a divided
land. Total Arab rejection of a Jewish State has not changed over the
past 100 years.

PM Netanyahu's generous 2009 Bar Ilan "two-state" offer was stillborn
the moment he required that one of the "two-peoples" recognize the
right of the Jewish people to a Jewish State. As Abu Mazen proclaimed:
"The Palestinian people (sic) will never accept the right of the
Jewish people to their own State. Not for a 1000 years!"

It does not take too much insight to comprehend the consequences of
Israel's various withdrawals from1956 until today. Every time Israel
blinked the Jihadist mission of cleansing the Middle East, first of
Jews and then Christians was encouraged. The day after Israel withdrew
from Gaza, missiles were launched in the expectation that continued
violence would assure further withdrawals from "occupied territories"
that include every bit of land west of the Jordan River. The new Gaza
quickly witnessed the Hamas Jihadist takeover with Fatah "moderates"
ejected from the roofs of six story buildings. Each Israeli concession
or withdrawal bolstered Jihadists with the conviction that further
violence would encourage the Jews in "Palestine" to flee to Europe and
elsewhere.

A basic tenet of Islam is Jihad: the struggle for Islam's global
ascendancy by any possible means. As interpreted by authoritative
teachings cited by Imam and scholar alike, that primary Jihadist
obligation is legally and morally suspended only in times or in places
where the chance of Jihadist success is minimal. Thus weakness or
compromise by those defending themselves against Jihad is viewed as
submission and a signal that Jihadist ventures can resume. It is
understandable, therefore, that the history of "salami" concessions
designed in good faith by leaders schooled in Western thought and
culture to encourage and bring about a "two-states for two peoples"
resolution only increases instability and conflict by signaling the
Jihadists that the time is ripe to return to violence to destroy the
Jewish State.

So why do so many well meaning people such as Tzipi Livni (former
foreign minister and Prime Minister wannabe), Ehud Olmert from the
witness stand, the editors of the NY Times, Haaretz, Manchester
Guardian, Professors in Haifa and Ben Gurion not to mention Tel Aviv
and Hebrew Universities continue to promote, preach, and struggle for
a new Middle East with Arabs and Jews living, working, and prospering
together? The Pollyannaish solution to the "Arab-Israeli" conflict is
captivating. It is a function of the Western bias that all Peoples and
their leaders want what our culture dictates to be desirable and that
any conflict can be resolved by reason and good will.

They argue moreover that two states for two peoples is the only way to
preserve Israel as a Jewish democratic state. This conclusion is based
on faulty demographic arguments and faulty predictions of behavior
patterns. It would lead to the opposite result: the creation of a
Jihadist state in Israel's backyard which will guarantee the
disappearance of the Jewish state!

For the time being, let us leave Gaza to its own devices. It may
remain a "free and independent" Islamic entity, it may revert back to
Egyptian domination, or maybe a new Turkish flotilla will reassert
Ottoman control. But it should not be the concern of Israel. Indeed,
the Arabs of Israel and Yehuda and Shomron (widely known as the former
West Bank of the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan) have little kinship
and little interest in the Arab population of Gaza.

As to the intellectual proposition that a "two state solution" is
necessary for Israel to continue as a "Jewish democratic state", it is
now well established since the groundbreaking 2005 demographic studies
and projections of Zimmerman, Seid and Wise issued by the American
Israel Demographic Research Group that the demographic facts and
trends do not require the artificial exclusion of people and territory
from Israel sovereignty.  Until that study was digested by impartial
academics, professors of Demography and Geography told the world and
told Israelis and Israeli policy makers that there was an Arab
majority between the River and the Sea and as a consequence,
separation and creation of a Palestinian "State" was the only way to
preserve Israel as a Jewish State.

But that mantra, the two-state "solution", is based on faulty data,
logic, and perception. It is also falsely based on security,
demographic, political, economic, electoral, societal considerations
on many levels.

Currently the Jewish population of green line Israel, Yehuda and
Shomron is 67% Jewish.

The last 20 years of birth data combined with migration data have
established that there is positive Jewish demographic momentum and if
Israel does not pursue policies that encourage Jihadists that 67%
majority is expected to grow.

Ask yourself and your friends and neighbors the difficult question:
What percent minority population would allow Israel to maintain its
character as a Jewish State? (By the way, there is nothing to be
embarrassed about living in a Jewish State. The Organization of the
Islamic Cooperation has 57 members, 56 of which are members of the
United Nations.) The answers will vary from zero percent Arabs (the
extreme left in Israel oddly enough now want no Arabs and a very high
fence!!) all the way to "it does not matter" (we want "a state of all
its citizens").

Will Israel with a one-third non-Jewish minority lose its character as
a Jewish State?
Will the two-thirds Jewish majority prosper in Israel? The conclusion
that there is positive Jewish demographic momentum changes many of the
previously held beliefs about the future of the Jewish State. Indeed,
demographic considerations have impacted policy, strategy, and
planning from the first Zionist Congress until today. The Mandate for
Palestine which was approved unanimously on July 24, 1922 by the
League of Nations and separately by the US Congress, formally
legalized for all time the Jewish right to Palestine. The Mandate
understood that a Jewish State could not be practically declared until
there were more Jews in the Land. The Mandate formally called for the
Jews of the world to support and encourage re-population of Palestine.
Jews were encouraged to immigrate and support financially, physically
and spiritually the growth of a Jewish majority in the Land. Once that
majority was achieved, a Jewish State could be declared and the
trusteeship could end.

Distinguished historians, political scientists and sociologists preach
that in all cases once a minority community reached 20% or possibly
30% and certainly 33% of the total population, the character of a
state changes. The majority cultural group loses its integrity and a
new creation is morphed into reality. Conversely, a less than 20%
minority group quickly assimilates and becomes absorbed by the
dominant 80% majority population.

Both of these propositions seem shaky as they relate to the internal
dynamics of Israel.

Where and how was the "scientific" conclusion reached?  By observing
multiple societies around the world. Can these theories account for
the history and integrity of the Jewish people through their almost
2,000 year Diaspora? No.

The survival of the Jewish people as distinct minorities in multiple
societies suggests that Jewish society is a remarkable exception to
conventional sociological thinking. Jewish minorities of 1-5% have
prospered and grown in remarkably diverse environments, both
economically, culturally, and demographically (sans pogroms and
inquisitions) over a period of 2,500 years since the destruction of
the First Temple. The Jews in Babylonia as well as in Lithuania, the
Ukraine and Poland succeeded and violated all the accepted norms about
assimilation and acculturation. Societies where the Jewish minority
never even exceeded 5% exhibited extraordinary Jewish involvement in
the highest levels of society and administrative infra-structure. We
will not go into the causes and explanations, but there are many
unique factors that contributed to their success. One need not explain
the phenomenon to observe it as proven fact.

Now imagine a country that is 67% Jewish, with a strong Jewish
participation in all segments from Arts and Science, Politics,
Medicine, Law, Security and Foreign Policy, Business and Finance, High
Tech and Agriculture etc. Will that society lose its Jewish character?

Per Israel's Declaration as an independent democratic Jewish State,
the rights of minority communities and individuals must be preserved.
But those minorities must uphold the Law of the Land and cannot be
permitted to act inimically to the welfare of the country.

The fears of a fifth column are legitimate but are clouded by the
current political environment. Israeli Arabs have been told by Israeli
politicians and media for 20 years that there will be a hostile Arab
state created in Israel's backyard. That is a guaranteed formula to
foster an extremely hostile internal population. Once that proposition
is laid to rest, the benefits of remaining or becoming part of
Israel's success will become paramount for the vast majority of the
Arab population. Recent events surrounding the "Arab Spring" have made
it clear to the fortunate Arabs living in Israel and Yehuda and
Shomron that a blue Israel Identity card is a treasured asset. Very
few Israeli Arabs have sought refuge under the PA or have fled to Gaza
or Syria.
Of course, the tragedies of the past century led to a fear that should
the Jewish population of Israel drop to 66% majority, terrible
catastrophes would emerge. But the fears do not take into account the
experience and logic of Jewish sovereignty.

I am working on a study that analyzes the risks and benefits of a
Jewish state with a one-third (and diminishing) Arab minority. The
concerns that people express with regard to a large minority
community, are generally very visceral and not well conceived. Those
fears and phobias arise from multiple issues including (in no
particular order): security, social, prejudice, political,  economic,
global reactions, character of a Jewish state,  character of  a
democratic state,  religious, inter-marriage,  conversion,  impact on
aliyah and yeridah,
government budgets, electoral, districting and representation, paths
and criteria for citizenship, etc. Each of these "threats" must be
analyzed, quantified and put into proper perspective using game
theoretic disciplines.

How should Israel sovereignty over Yehuda and Shomron be implemented?
Different annexation paths have been proposed. Phased in or partial
annexation, districting, electoral reform and representation in the
Knesset, various criteria for the changed legal status of the new
residents of Israel, etc. Many possible paths were analyzed almost ten
years ago and can be found at http://www.onestateplan.com/.

There is no quick, assured or ideal resolution to a conflict that has
more than a 100 year history. Nonetheless, it has become increasingly
clear that complete annexation of Yehuda and Shomron offers the best
opportunity for security, peace and prosperity for all the residents
of Israel.

Your comments are appreciated at mlwise@gmail.com. More information
can be found at  http://www.onestateplan.com/ and

Tuesday, July 03, 2012

Re: Nationalist Activists send shockwaves throughout Judea and Samaria?????Women in Green - Make all Arabs Israeli citizens??? My explanation of what they can mean

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Nationalist Activists send shockwaves throughout Judea and Samaria
by Zahava Englard'


Zahava Englard claims that she sat with Nadia Matar and Yehudit Katzover and they want Judea and Samaria to be annexed (ok) and here comes the shocker, they would like to grant Arabs in Judea and Samaria Israeli citizenship (???).  

This calls for and demands greater explanation.  One one hand they themselves quote from the Torah Deuteronomy 7:1-2, When the Lord…casts out many nations before you…make no covenant with them and give them no foothold… and then Zahava quotes Yehudit Katsover who says "Because we believe in our sovereignty over Judea and Samaria, we are willing to pay the price and give the Arabs in the region citizenship," explains Yehudit. "For our land we are ready to suffer and sacrifice. We will pay the price."

???? That is from left field. That sounds like Netanyahu talking about sacrifices for peace which includes destruction of settlements.  

I seriously do not believe that Nadia or Yehudit want to annul the Torah when it says "make no covenant with them".  I also do not believe they went off their rocker (i.e. are afflicted with temporary insanity).  So the following is my interpretation of what they probably do suggest.

In the Torah a Non Jew living in the Land of Israel, falls under the category of Ger Toshav.  A Ger Toshav has rights.  If you want to call the Ger Toshav a non-Jewish Israeli citizen, call it what you wish.  However, a Ger Toshav is not obligated in the 613 Mitzvoth as is the Jew, the seed of Avraham, Yitzchok and Yaakov and their rights are limited compared to a full fledged Jew.  They must adhere to the 7 Noahide laws.  They must accept Israel Sovereignty.  A Ger Toshav rights are different then the Ger Tzedek whose rights are pretty identical to the Jewish people with certain exceptions relevant to the Ger Tzedek. It's not a matter of being fair or not fair.  It's just different.  A Ger Toshav does not have  inheritance rights as member of one of the Tribes. They can never outvote the Jewish People from the Land since they don't really have inheritance as do the 12 Tribes.  When it comes to inheritance rights, neither does the Levi for that matter and the Levi is very special to G-d since G-d is their inheritance.  So is the Ger Tzedek.
They are assured housing and shelter. Israel must provide for the Ger Toshav and make sure that they do not fall into poverty.  True today we do not really know which Tribe we belong to and/or which land is our inheritance,  so come Yovel we can not apply the inheritance laws according to the Torah.  

However, we must acknowledge that there is an inherent difference between Jews and non Jews and their obligations and rights are not identical in the Land of Israel and these must be spelled out!  

Side note: In case you think I am advocating confiscating the property of all non Jews, let me assure you that we have a precedent in the Torah of purchasing property from non Jews and not confiscating the land from them even though it was promised to Abraham.  Abraham purchased Land from Efron HaChiti.  He paid full price for Maarat HaMachpela. On the other hand, there is no reason to allow children textbooks or TV shows in Israel that glorify Jihad and promotes Israel's destruction.  There must be a precondition of accepting Israel's Sovereignty and being a proud non Jewish Citizen of Israel. (or call it what you may) 

  One may not add or subtract to the Torah and that remains true this very day as well.  So while you speak about citizenship for Non Jews, make it clear that Israel is not merely a democracy.  It can only be a Jewish democracy which has distinctions between men and women, distinctions between Kohen, Levi and Yisroel, Kings and non Kings, Jew and Non Jews, Ger Toshav and Ger Tzedek and Amcha, your people. 

Judaism is not a racist religion but there are differences and these distinctions must not be blurred nor are we allow to deceive others into believing that these distinctions can be blurred.    If distinctions are blurred it is a Bedieved, not the best way to handle the situation and not a Lechatchila (the preferred method in dealing with the situation) and our goal is to actualize the Torah to the fullest and to the best of our abilities because that and only that will bring peace and prosperity to humanity.

Is Professor Paul Eidelberg invited to this Conference in Hebron?  I believe he can add a lot to the discussion!

Author of THE GILBOA IRIS (Gefen Publishing House) and SETTLING FOR
MORE: FROM JERSEY TO JUDEA (Urim Publications)

A couple of days ago I sat with Yehudit Katsover and Nadia Matar
somewhere in Gush Etzion. We discussed a new and provocative
right-wing initiative while drinking ice water to ward off the
afternoon heat. Nadia and Yehudit are both passionate, devoted veteran
Land of Israel activists, and when they began to speak about a
proposal that includes offering the Arab residents of Judea and
Samaria Israeli citizenship, naturally, I was intrigued.

Over the years, Nadia and Yehudit have tirelessly struggled to block
illegal Arab take-overs of Jewish- and state-owned land. And for the
past seven years they have been working together as co-chairs of Women
for Israel's Tomorrow, also known as Women in Green.

"There's always another fire to put out," says Nadia. "Each time
leftists attempted to close an area to Jews — Ulpana, Migron, Givat
Assaf, Beit HaShalom, etc. — the local Jews had to move fast to put
each fire out."

She and Yehudit  realized that almost every day another hill was taken
over by "agricultural jihad" or illegal Arab construction.

So they decided the time has come to get to the root of the problem —
and that didn't mean a two-state solution.

"Albeit 45 years late, it's time for the government of Israel to
pursue an initiative that would extend its sovereignty over Judea and
Samaria, which would include granting the Arab residents in the area
Israeli citizenship," Nadia says.

The two regularly quote from Genesis 12:7, I will give this land to
your offspring; Genesis 17:8, And I give to you and your offspring
after you the land you sojourn in…as an everlasting possession; and
Deuteronomy 7:1-2, When the Lord…casts out many nations before
you…make no covenant with them and give them no foothold…

While giving credit to these biblical references may not fit the
modern thought process of the left, it is nevertheless the core of a
conviction that is steeped in the roots of Judaism, the religion of
our nation. It is not something that can be easily dismissed. It is,
after all, the reason we are here, the reason for our claim to the
land, and the very reason for our yearning for this land since the
destruction of the Second Temple.

Our history begins in our heartland. And the heartland of Israel is
Judea and Samaria. Nadia refers to Tel Aviv as a "tinoket," a baby,
next to Judea and Samaria. The heartland is the spine of our country,
which protects the coastal plain.

"Because we believe in our sovereignty over Judea and Samaria, we are
willing to pay the price and give the Arabs in the region
citizenship," explains Yehudit. "For our land we are ready to suffer
and sacrifice. We will pay the price."

Being a full-fledged nationalist right-winger myself, I support
Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. But I'm not entirely sold
on the proposal of Israeli citizenship for Arab residents there and
the terrorists that lie within. I pour myself another glass of water,
by that point wishing it was something stronger, and continue to
listen.

They inform me that the initiative will be thoroughly explored at the
upcoming Sovereignty Conference, Thursday, July 12, at the Mahpela
Visitor's Center in Hebron.

It is their contention that the government consistently considers
throwing out Jews out of their homes — an option that was indeed
carried out in 2005 in Gush Katif and the northern Shomron. With the
disastrous consequences of that decision felt daily in southern
Israel, the time has come, they say, to swerve public discourse away
from capitulation, and regain the initiative.

To be sure, many in the right wing camp aren't convinced that a plan
that includes citizenship for Arabs Judea and Samaria is the wisest
path, even if it is instituted in stages. Nadia and Yehudit concede
that there are risks, but they claim these risks are reasonable and
worth taking. They and other like-minded advocates consider an
annexation of Judea and Samaria a medication to make Israel healthier,
and like with every medication, there can be side effects.

Perhaps surprisingly, the much-touted "demographic threat" is not
among the side effects they're worried about. They cite Yoram
Ettinger, formerly the minister for congressional affairs at Israel's
Embassy in Washington, DC, and a former consul-general of Israel to
the southwestern US, who is a recognized expert on Jewish-Arab
demography. Ettinger maintains that the demographic problem is not as
grave as it has been portrayed.

For one thing, the left has added one million to the Arab population
in Judea and Samaria: their dead are still counted into the total, as
well as those who have emigrated. At present, the Jewish birthrate
exceeds the Arab birthrate in the region. With the increase in higher
education for Arab women came a decrease in birthrate. Ettinger
predicts that should the Israeli government treat aliya as a top
national priority, by 2035 there will be an 80% Jewish majority.

According to Nadia and Yehudit, it is the creation of a Palestinian
state that would unsettle the Jewish demographics. As long as Israel
has sovereignty over Judea and Samaria it controls the border with
Jordan, preventing an influx of Jordanian Arabs.

Having spoken to large groups of secular Jews in Israel, Nadia and
Yehudit say they found considerable numbers that were receptive to
their initiative. It is further understood from Arabs themselves that
many would prefer Israeli citizenship to the Palestinian Authority —
even if they are afraid to declare this aloud.

It would necessitate having the Arabs sign an oath of loyalty to the
State of Israel and its laws, along with a commitment to carry out
national service. The oath of fealty is not an unreasonable idea,
according to Nadia, who says it took a relative of hers 10 years
before she was able to receive American citizenship.

As to how the world would react to an Israeli annexation of Judea and
Samaria, "The skies didn't fall when Israel applied sovereignty over
Jerusalem and the Golan Heights; nor will it fall when we apply
sovereignty over Judea and Samaria," says Nadia. "Should the world
scream over it, let them. Better that than to have them love us for
capitulating as we are driven out of our land."

Many notables have been pushing for this initiative over the past
year: MK Tzipi Hotovely, Caroline Glick, Yoram Ettinger, Attorney
Howard Grief and MK Uri Ariel — to name a few — who likewise plan to
be present at the Sovereignty Conference.

As for me: I've marked off July 12 on my calendar. While I found merit
in what was explained to me, I was still not completely convinced. And
I've decided to remain undecided until I can explore this initiative
further and weigh all the pros and cons. As I understand it, bus
transportation to the event will be available from a variety of
locations. Lectures will be in Hebrew with simultaneous English
translation. Perhaps you'd like to join me?

Further details on the Conference, in Hebrew and in English, can be

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Robin Ticker
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