Tuesday, March 29, 2016

Fwd: The Killing of a Muslm Terrorist

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The Killing of a Muslim Terrorist

Prof. Paul Eidelberg


It was reported in the Jerusalem Post of March 28, 2016, that an Israeli soldier shot an incapacitated "Palestinian," really a Muslim, terrorist in Hebron.


According to Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon and Chief of Staff Lt. Gadi Eisenkot, the soldier violated "basic rules of military engagement." Eisenkot reported said that "the soldier's behavior reflected neither the IDF's nor Jewish values."


Since an investigation into this incident is being made, it would be premature to draw fast and narrow conclusions about the incident. However, it would not be inappropriate to ponder the issue in an abstract way, in the light of political philosophy, having in mind the possible inadequacy of the IDF's "basic rules of engagement" when dealing with Muslim terrorists.


Nevertheless, allow me to quote a comment from a rabbinical source on the incident in question:


"At the time of the shooting either [the terrorist] was already dead or he was still alive. If he was dead then the additional bullet did not kill him. If he was alive [two alternatives are possible]: (1) either he was so badly wounded that he could not have done any more harm, or (2) he was not so badly wounded and was still dangerous, in which case it was a mitzvah to neutralize him, since he had just demonstrated that he is trying to kill Jews.


"So this was a case of safek sakanat nefashot [a doubt involving danger to life] in which you have to take action to protect yourself and others to make sure that the sakana [danger] is removed. There was no time to think it out, every second was dangerous. Furthermore it was the attacker himself who created an atmosphere of emergency and panic, so if the soldier acted in a state of panic, it is the attacker who set up that state and is responsible for the consequences of that state."

 

That said, I shall approach the problem as a political scientist who received his PhD from the University of Chicago. I mention this because more than one Israeli university is reputedly left-wing-oriented, therefore philosophically narrow. Here is how I look at the Hebron incident.

 

1. A murder committed by a Muslim terrorist is qualitatively different from an ordinary murder in that the latter, unlike the former, does not a manifest a political ideology with global scope and a history of politicide and genocide.

 

2. In the context of Israel, the murder of a Jew by a Muslim terrorist is not typically animated by some individual grievance against the victim, who might not even be known by the murderer, but by what the victim represents, namely, the Jewish state of Israel.

 

3. Essentially and existentially understood, the murder of a Jew by a Muslim member of the Palestinian Authority is ipso facto a manifestation of politicide and genocide. This is made explicit in the Charter of the Palestinian Authority (PA), which, apropos of the 1993 Oslo Agreement, succeeded the Palestine Liberation Organization. The PLO is a consortium of terrorist groups established in 1964, three years before the Six Day War when Israel regained much of it ancient homeland, for which the PLO-PA lusts and kills.

 

4. The PLO-PA has murdered more than 1,000 Jews. It has wounded and traumatized many thousands more, including children who have been deliberately targeted by Muslim terrorists to demoralize the Jewish people and diminish their birth rate.

 

5. These horrific considerations, judging from the reaction to the Hebron incident by Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon and Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Gadi Eisenkot, are not evaluated in an ideologically sophisticated manner by these military men and by the IDF rules of engagement (and I have only touched the surface of Muslim savagery). It seems that the IDF would treat a captured Muslim terrorist as if he were a conventional soldier of a foreign army, to be treated as he may have been treated in the 19th century or prior to the Geneva Conventions of the 20th century.

 

This suggests that Ya'alon and Eisenkot and the IDF rules of engagement do not take fully into account the ideological motivation of Muslim terrorists, who make no distinction between soldier and civilian, between adults and children, and who are animated by the global ambition of Islam. All of which suggests that the IDF rules of engagement are flawed and should be drastically revised, and that Ya'alon and Eisenkot have not been properly educated at Israel's Command and Staff College, a former head of which was the self-professed moral relativist Professor Y, Harkabi, the mentor of Shimon Peres and the architect of the disastrous Oslo Accords!

 

Returning to the Hebron incident, the issue boils down to this: should all the rights of a human being be extended to a Muslim even though he is a terrorist acting on behalf of the Palestinian Authority, an organization whose charter calls for the annihilation of the Jewish state of Israel?

 

In the case of an ordinary murderer, the significance of his murdering an individual does not extend politically beyond the life of his victim. In sharp contrast, in the case of a Muslim terrorist murdering a Jew, his is a meta-political act and it's intended to arouse daily dread in all Jews living in Israel. This fact, which puts said Muslim beyond the human pale, signifies that the IDF rules of engagement should not regard a captured terrorist as merely a conventional prisoner of war, or even, unqualifiedly, as a human being whose free will is sacrosanct. This is why some degree of cruelty, such as water-boarding, is necessary and proper to obtain information about terrorist plots and save innocent lives.

Indeed, were it not for the utility of this interrogation technique, and inasmuch as Israel is at war with a genocidal foe, the terrorist should be summarily executed. He is not a soldier and is not entitled to any rights of the outmoded Geneva Convention. As a terrorist he's beyond the human pale.

 

Truth to tell, it would be a travesty of civilization to treat a Muslim terrorist merely as an enemy combatant. Notwithstanding any rulings of Israel's Supreme Court, which, not unlike PM Netanyahu, is tainted by the lethargy of moral equivalence, to refrain from getting information from a captured terrorist about other terrorists, say by means of water-boarding, is foolhardy and irresponsible.

 

Netanyahu says he does not need a lesson in morality. But when it comes to the use force against Muslim terrorists, he should back up our soldiers and draw a lesson from World War II, when civilized America and England incinerated Dresden, causing more deaths in that city than the A-bomb dropped on Hiroshima!

 

It's hard for sheltered academics and jurists in Israel, as well as media-mesmerized politicians, to stand upright. This is not the posture of authentic Jews. Such Jews have ever stood alone, devoted to the reason for Israel's existence, to relate God's praise.☼

 

Sunday, March 27, 2016

IDF Morality and Neutralization of Terrorists. Downgraded to Manslaughter. Trust Military Investigation?

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Key testimony supports Hevron soldier who shot terrorist

Soldier's case strengthening: commander admits he would have shot too, comrade says were told terrorist had a bomb belt.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/210563

Hebron soldier: ‘I’m only being investigated because they’re scared of what the world has to say’

The testimony of the detained soldier suspected of killing a neutralized terrorist was released for the first time today. In his interrogation, the soldier claimed, “Thoughts came into my head about a Hamas terror cell telling us that they’re planning to carry out a terror attack.”
http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/politics-and-military/military/exclusive-interview-with-the-hebron-soldier-released-20399

My son deserves to be treated like a hero not a criminal says father of IDF Soldier. Prosecution is preparing an indictment for manslaughter against him. 
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/hebron-soldier-released-from-jail/2016/03/31/ "I am convinced the investigation will be professional and fair to your son.” says Netanyahu to father.  
My comments:
Can someone be trusted to investigate itself?  It does not take days of investigation to acknowledge that there was a real possibility that the terrorist was wearing an explosive device under his closed vest that could have potentially detonated endangering everyone. In real time, a soldier does  does not have the luxury to investigate.  A soldier must make a quick decision and act.  

I do not trust the Military investigation will be fair since the Morality Laws of the IDF are based on political correctness rather than on Moral Ethics of combat.  Terror attacks on soldiers and innocent civilians should be considered as an act of War.  The Palestinians themselves do not consider these knife attacks as terror.  They consider them "Resistance". They chant "Resistance is justified when Palestine is occupied."

If the Terrorist was merely engaging in resistance than perhaps shooting him was not in order. However, it is clear to everyone that the attacker was not merely resisting, but rather engaged in a deadly act of terror on IDF soldiers no different than a real time war situation.

Another question of moral ethics is whether the IDF should treat terrorist and victim as if there is no difference between them when both victim and terrorist are wounded. It is not the job of the medic to make that decision because they have been trained to disregard the circumstances and go by the rules of triage. So unless instructed otherwise, the terrorist who is in worse medical condition will be treated before his victims according to the Moral Ethics of the IDF.  This morality seems very off. Being compassionate to the cruel will make one cruel to the compassionate. 

 Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon and Chief of Staff Lt. Gadi Eisenkot, the soldier violated "basic rules of military engagement." Eisenkot reported said that "the soldier's behavior reflected neither the IDF's nor Jewish values." 

Maybe Moshe Ya'alon and Chief of Staff Lt. Gadi Eisenkot should be under investigation for violating "basic rules of military engagement" whose Moral ethics do not reflect Ethical and moral rules of combat warfare nor Jewish ethics of combat warfare but rather reflect influences of a political nature.  
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Petition in Support of arrested IDF Soldier. Almost 58,000 signatures
אזרחי ישראל מעניקים ציון לשבח לחייל צה"ל
http://www.atzuma.co.il/citation
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Moving Facebook Post Defending IDF Infantryman Accused of 'Executing' Terrorist Goes Viral as Social Media Survey Says Most Israelis Support His Action

By Ruthie Blum http://www.algemeiner.com/2016/03/27/moving-facebook-post-defending-idf-infantryman-accused-of-executing-terrorist-goes-viral-as-social-media-survey-says-most-israelis-support-his-action/  The Hebrew Facebook post of a former IDF soldier, Dror Zicherman, critically wounded by excess compassion to a terrorist by his commanding officer, defending the IDF infantryman, has gone viral since it was uploaded on Saturday night, with nearly 23,000 shares so far and almost 3,000 comments.


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This is what Moshe Feiglin posted on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/893527364072852/permalink/1026178060807781/

There is nothing more moral than eliminating a terrorist who attempts murder. Whoever doesn’t understand this literally sheds blood. 

How many soldiers and civilians will G-d forbid pay with their lives for the pandering to the nations 'morality' show put on by the Prime Minister and Defense Minister in response to Thursday's event in Hebron, in which a soldier shot and killed an injured terrorist?

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Excellent Article!
Western morality and Islamic jihad
Posted on March 27, 2016 by Vic Rosenthal
http://abuyehuda.com/2016/03/western-morality-and-islamic-jihad/

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Why would any soldier want to serve in an army knowing that his supreme commanders will not have his or her back?  by Zahava Englard

Reader Post: Leave No Man Behind

http://www.israellycool.com/2016/03/27/reader-post-leave-no-man-behind/

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The Killing of a Muslim Terrorist by Prof. Paul Eidelberg
http://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2016/03/fwd-killing-of-muslm-terrorist.html

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A Mother of a Golani Soldier writes to her son
http://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2016/03/fwd.html


My comments:




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This protest in NY was a protest in Solidarity with ongoing protests in Israel,  http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/angry-israelis-demonstrate-outside-prison-where-idf-soldier-jailed-for-killing-terrorist/2016/03/26/  demanding the release of the soldier who was jailed for shooting a terrorist in Hebron and neutralizing him permanently after he was semi neutralized. 

We defend a soldier's actions to fully neutralize a terrorist in order to prevent a potentially deadly terror attack that can occur when a terrorist is only partially neutralized.  The Algemeiner Link above is an example of exactly that happening. 

There are many people,  angry veterans of the IDF, parents of IDF soldiers and regular citizens who are extremely upset that this soldier is being treated as a criminal, jailed and  reprimanded  in the media by public officials before any formal military investigation was conducted.  

The Duma arson has similar parallels.   Quick to accuse, condemn and sentence our brothers and sisters, righteous Jews, in the media and then actually imprison them?!?!?!?...

This is merely the tip of the iceberg.  

By prosecuting this IDF soldier, Israel appeases Obama and thereby aids and abets those whose goal and mission is the destruction of the State of Israel!  

Let us have an open discussion about Torah morality?  How about Universal morality?   Let us scrutinize "IDF morality" and check out its true source.  It is not based on Torah.

Jews in Judea and Samaria, East Jerusalem and Israel proper, live with daily terror attacks because Palestinian terrorists are not afraid of consequences. They have been fed with hate education from an early age.  When  IDF soldiers who have tried to protect  Israeli civilians are viciously condemned in the media and prosecuted as terrorists, this makes other IDF soldiers afraid to do their jobs effectively and destroys their motivation.  They will refrain to engage with terrorists lest that they too become the target of prosecution by the Israeli gov't.  It plants seeds of doubt and hesitation.   Lives are then lost due to terror... precisely the agenda of Israel's enemies. 

Exactly this scenario was posted on facebook by a mother of a soldier 

Being compassionate to the cruel means we are cruel to the compassionate and these rules of engagement as specified by the Defense Minister are deadly for the protection of the Land of Israel and the protection of the People of Israel.

Not only have IDF Solders been prevented from properly defending themselves and the people, Jews in Judea and Samaria have been prevented from properly defending themselves to fill in the void.

Have the lives of the IDF Soldier and the residents of Judea and Samaria deemed Hefker,  abandoned, endangered by these "morality laws"? 

Why are hundreds of righteous, idealistic, innocent youth of Judea and Samaria under surveillance,  suspect and/or house arrest.  Why are Amiram ben Uliel and Elisha Odess under administrative detention, suspects in the Duma arson,  tortured in prison until they confessed to a crime they say they did not do?  Why is Meir Ettinger sitting in a high security cell surrounded by Arab Terrorists because of his opinions and his requests to be tried in a a Jewish court of Law treated as if he was a Jewish Terrorist?

It is no surprise that these youth and their families feel betrayed and have lost confidence in the IDF's willingness to defend them and their families.

Silent Intifada: Over 100 attacks in one week (Mar 18th- Mar. 24th) 

Put yourself in the place of the Jewish settler in Judea and Samaria.   If the IDF is unwilling to defend you and  your family, then how would you feel?  

Vulnerable.

We can not stand by and let this continue. We must protest!

It is Shabak and the Judicial System and those in the Government of Israel including the Defense Dept. that should undergo a thorough investigation by the Knesset as per whether they are properly defending Jewish lives in Judea and Samaria and elsewhere and whether they tie the hands of soldiers who are there to protect Israeli civilians.  Then they proceed to tie the hands of the Settlers, whose lives are now in greater danger as a result of this void.  

What is the Torah perspective on this?  Chareidim, Yeshivish, Chasidish, Dati Leumi, Yeshiva Torah Scholars who are busy learning Torah day and night surely can offer a Torah perspective in this timely and relevant discussion of Pikuach Nefesh. 

Let the slander, condemnations and false derogatory reports on Jewish warriors come to an end!

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Sincerely,

Robin Ticker

Israel Advocacy Calendar (www.IsraelAdvocacyCalendar.com).
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Most of these emails are posted on Shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com

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Obama’s Final Solution for the Jewish State | Frontpage Mag

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My comments: Trumps offer of being a neutral negotiator is a breath of fresh in comparison  to Obamas being a proxy negotiator for an Islamic Terrorist State!

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262233/obamas-final-solution-jewish-state-daniel-greenfield

Blog: Susie Dym, Theology, Technology and the AIPAC agenda - Arutz Sheva

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/8273#.Vvb7wHqzddt

Friday, March 25, 2016

Fwd: Virtual Rebellion in Israel supporting IDF soldier who shot Arab terrorist in the head - Are Israelis waking up?

Chag Shushan Purim Sameach!

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Talk-back internet rebellion in support of IDF soldier who neutralized Arab-terrorist in Hebron

The soldier who shot an Arab terrorist in the head after the terrorist already succeeded in wounding two Israeli soldiers Wednesday in Hebron, and after he was already on the ground, has triggered serious virtual discourse on Israeli social media. The talkback response  of the overwhelming majority of Israelis has given sweeping support for the soldier and stark condemnation of PM Bibi Netanyahu, Defense Minister Bogi Yaalon, and Chief of Staff Eizenkott who have all harshly condemned the soldier and who all claim that his behavior is diametrically opposed to IDF ethics and morality – to shoot a terrorist who is apparently already neutralized. Bibi, Bogi and and Eizenkott continued to blast the soldier who has already been arrested despite the fact that eyewitness testimony support the soldier's  version of the story that claim the terrorist had moved and that there were shouts that he had a bomb strapped under his bulky jacket that he was about to set off. Not an uncommon scenario. The spirit of the talkbacks are angry - ranging in demands for Bibi, Bogi and Eizenkott to resign for their defeatist policies, to demanding the arrest of the IDF leadership and the politicians - for abandoning IDF soldiers and the citizens of Israel.

Motti Almoz, the IDF spokesman was attacked virtually by hundreds on his facebook page for condemning the soldier's actions. People attacked him for listening to Bibi, Bogi and Eizenkott. Clearly people are fed up with the constant wave of terror and with the fact that their leadership is siding with the left, the Arabs and the International Community and not with the IDF soldiers who are on the frontlines in this complex battle. Only a handful of rightwing politicians have taken the side of the soldier, declaring him innocent until proven guilty.

IDF Last Holy-Cow in Israel
What happens when IDF Generals and the politicians who define the laws of engagement in battle verbally lynch an IDF soldier in the media? The IDF has been the holy cow of Israeli society since the birth of the modern state of Israel. While the police, Knesset members and judges all lag at the bottom of popularity contests in the polls, the IDF has consistently maintained a most favorable rating. Even the unpopular expulsion from Gush Katif, which could not have been executed without the aid of the IDF, left the IDF almost unblemished politically. If anything, the majority of Israelis who opposed the surrender of Gaza and Northern Shomron, blamed the politicians for forcing the army to participate in the politically controversial disengagement-expulsion debacle. "Keep the army out of politics," was the commonly felt sentiment of the nation.

However, people see the simple soldier and the not the generals as the IDF they so adore
And so we have a mini-revolution albeit only in internet forums and on the Israeli social media network. The nation of Israel and the simple soldiers pinned against the leadership of the army, the politicians, the Arabs and the international community. The soldiers and the nation fear for their lives, the politicians and the Israeli left fear international opinion. The smart populist rightwing-politicians, hope to reap the political coupon. In the meantime the state continues down a road of self-destruction, and when new elections are called all of the politicians will again pretend to be clones of Kahane, that is until they get reelected after they again have duped the people of Israel.

Timely poster ad campaign that depicts Eizenkott as Ahashaverosh
Posters have been plastered around the country placing Eizenkott in the garb of Ahashverosh, calling for the resignation of Eizenkott and asking him to take Bibi and Bogi with him. The timely posters attack Eizenkott for ridiculing Jewish law and the imperative to "wake up and slay one who comes to slay you first." The poster quotes the verse from the Megillah about Ahashverosh giving the Jews license to slay those who merely plotted to kill Jews, and concludes that Eizenkott, Bibi andf Bogi are even worse than  Ahashverosh.

The online rebellion and the theme of the poster campaign could lead to real change
Clearly this is the way to combat the insane orders being passed down by the politicians and the high- command of the army. This is the way to combat the allegiance that Israeli leaders show to misplaced mercy and distorted perceptions of "purity of arms" dictated by the left and the international community. There needs to be massive propaganda that shows how the politicians and the leaders of the IDF are pinned against the interests of the nation and against the simple IDF soldiers. The propaganda needs to show how the politicians merely use and abuse the masses to get elected and how they then betray their promises and the security interests of the people and the soldiers.

Bibi - wake up - This could turn into the demise of your political career
If I were Bibi, Bogi, Eizenkott, the Israeli left, the European Union or the Obama Administration I would pay close attention to the online rebellion supporting the IDF soldier over the generals. The nation of Israel is placing a wedge between the simple soldiers and the generals. The nation is fine with dumping its generals and embracing the rest of the army. This sentiment is translating into action. Soldiers are beginning to disregard the generals, nothing the elitist generals did not bring upon themselves from their ivory towers. Finally the Jew in Israel is being forced to decide between Jewish values and survival vs anti-Jewish values and suicide; between the dictates of G-d and common sense vs the dictates of Washington and the European Union.

The good Jews will win in the end
In the end the will of the nation and the Jewish Way will win out. Even dictatorships have to take into account popular opinion. Certainly a state that calls itself a democracy will be forced to listen to the voice of the people. Today that voice is only being spoken on the internet and in private parlors, but it is only a question of time before the angry sentiments being expressed online will flow offline and onto the streets. This is why the Israeli government has implemented draconian decrees against those who have the courage to speak out clearly against government policy. This is the real reason why people like Meir Ettinger have been arrested and held without trial and due process; without charges and without having committed a crime; without indictment or basic rights afforded to other prisoners.

The soft voice of the people is getting louder and angrier, if the current talk-backs online are any indication
Find attached a picture of the posters which have been plastered in strategic areas such as the Kirya in Tel Aviv, the Israeli "Pentagon", as well as other areas across Israel. There is yet hope because the majority of Israeli Jews and the simple soldiers are still healthy, and not yet corrupted by the galut complex that plagues the Israeli leadership. The virtual uprising is something new. When the people are forced to decide whether they support Jewish survival and the IDF soldiers or the brass and politicians, they have unequivocally voiced their support for life, Jewish values and IDF soldiers over universalism, misplaced mercy and values imposed by the United Nations, the European Union and the Israeli left.


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