Tuesday, November 25, 2014

Har HaBayit Internal Debate -


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 Internal Jewish Debate

fyi Interesting debate opposing and supporting ascent on Har Habayit.  I will save my comments to a future post. Robin

Four people killed in terror attack at Jerusalem synagogue
Two terrorists infiltrate synagogue, yeshiva compound in Har Nof neighborhood, attack worshipers with large knives and gun; eight people wounded; terrorists killed.
Noam (Davul) Dvir, Agencies

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While the PFLP didn't explicitly claim responsibility for the atrocity at the synagogue in the Har Nof neighborhood, it did laud the attack while describing the two assailants, cousins Ghassan and Odai Abu Jamal, as "PFLP comrades." A statement released in the name of Khalil Maqdesi, a member of the PFLP's Central Committee, was in essence a call to genocide. "Occupiers and racists do not belong to the land of Palestine; there are, and must be, consequences and repercussions for the theft of our land and our rights," Maqdesi said. If his meaning here is unclear, look at the bloodstained images from the Har Nof synagogue for clarification. Similarly, anyone tempted to believe that the PFLP is the secular organization that Maqdisi presents it to be, should ask why the terrorists screamed "Allahu Akhbar" as they embarked on their murder spree.

What was most striking about this statement, however, was Maqdesi's praise of Jewish anti-Zionists: "Thousands of Jews around the world are true and genuine voices for the struggle, leading boycott movements and joining the Palestinian struggle for liberation on a daily basis. We salute each and every one of them." I think he knew what he was doing here, and it's smart. Maqdesi understands that by heaping compliments on the tiny minority of Jews who collaborate with anti-Semites, many observers will conclude that the PFLP didn't kill Jews this week because they are Jews. And once that's established, the door is open to the moral equivalency and rationalization that has stained so much of the media coverage of the Har Nof attack. http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/11/24/overlooked-palestinian-terror-group-returns-with-a-vengeance/ 

Terrorism with an Israeli ID card
A look at the absurdity going on in Jabel Mukaber, whose Arab Israeli inhabitants went to the High Court of Justice to ensure that they stayed on the Israeli side of the separation barrier • Now they are trying to have it both ways.
Nadav Shragai


..Netanyahu said last week that Israel had no intention of changing the status quo on the Temple Mount, where a Muslim trust enforces the ban on Jewish prayer at the site.

Netanyahu and the Temple Mount Status Quo By Rabbi Chaim Richman 11/19/2014  http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/6481#.VHQehfnF8WI 

Netanyahu: No change in Temple Mount status quo
Statement comes after Jordan warns peace treaty could be in danger if new policy emerges regarding Jewish prayers at holy site
BY JTA October 28, 2014,

'Netanyahu to meet Jordan king again for Temple Mount talks'
Jordanian MP says PM expected in Amman for 2nd meeting in days to cement agreement on deescalating situation in Jerusalem
BY AFP AND TIMES OF ISRAEL STAFF

Judaism: Inheriting the Land of Israel on the Temple Mount. Rabbi Melamed writes what late Religious Zionist leader Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook would have decided about the halakhic question of ascending the Temple Mount had he seen the political situation today.
November 24, 2014 
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/16042#.VHYrRTHF8WI

A historical crime against the Jews: Let's set this right: Synagogues on the Temple Mount a History by David Ramati
http://empathy2013.blogspot.com/2014/12/update-8-dec-13-historical-crime.html

Op-Ed: It's Time to Annex the Temple Mount by Daniel Perez
This was a massacre against Jews, not Zionists, and against the freedom to pray without fear. Annexing the Temple Mount is a fitting response.

Op-Ed: Once Again, The Temple Mount is the Heart of the Matter by Matan Peleg and Douglas Altabef
There is a strategic Palestinian Arab plan. The pulling on Al Aqsa can lead to an unraveling of the whole Zionist enterprise. We ignore it at our peril.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/16038#.VHOIvIusV1Z

Op-Ed: Israeli Concessions are Seen as Proof Israel is Wrong  by Mark Langfan
Concessions are seen as admissions that Israel is wrong, because Arabs do not concede anything in return.


Woodcliff Lake, NJ - Agudah Convention: Novominsker Rebbe Slams Those Who Go To Har Habayis

The Novominsker, who is the head of the Agudah's Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah, advised anyone to is seeking to become closer to the shechina to do so in their own shuls, instead of going to Har Habayis.



Sunday, December 23, 2007
Temple Mount exclusive broadcast rights to Fatah-Hamas. For Zion's sake, I will. http://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2007/12/temple-mount-exclusive-broadcast-rights.html
This past Thanksgiving, at the Agudah Convention in Stamford Connecticut, on Motzei Shabbos,  the theme was an Undivided Jerusalem.  Rav Perlow, the Noveminsker, the Rosh Agudath Yisroel spoke.  He said that he actually took a plane recently to Eretz Yisroel for the sole purpose of speaking to Rav  Eliashiv and Rav Shteinman regarding this matter.  Rav Eliashiv said clearly that he is against giving away parts of Yerushalyim. Rav Shteinman also agreed.  Rav Eliashiv told Rav Perlow that he can say so publicly in his name and with full strength (Bechol Hatokef).  Rav Eliashiv said "Will we have to ask permission of the Yishmaelim to daven at the Kosel?"  Rav Perlow asked the audience regarding the Gov't of Israel "Can we trust them with Security???" The Mayor of Jerusalem, the Honorable Uri Lupiansky then spoke.  He told the audience that we in America have great influence.  He asked us not to wait until it gets too late to speak up. He reminded us what happened when there was a riot at on Har Habayit.  They started throwing stones at the Kotel square. He said it was a miracle that no one was killed.  He said that the enemy is within.  They are the forces that wish to divide us like a piece of Salami, piece by piece and hand us to our enemies. 


In Plain Language: O Jerusalem!
The claim that a Jewish presence on Har Habayit 'inflames' Muslim sensitivities and invites disaster is disingenuous By STEWART WEISS 11/13/2014
http://www.jpost.com/landedpages/printarticle.aspx?id=381738

Rabbi Dovid Yosef

Israeli chief rabbi tells Jews to stay away from Temple Mount
November 7, 2014. Yitzhak Yosef, Israel's chief Sephardic rabbi, made the call during the funeral Friday of Shalom Ba'adani, 17 who died that morning in hospital from wounds he sustained on Wednesday when a Palestinian terrorist hit him and 12 others with his car.This is the place to call on the esteemed public to stop this incitement, from here a call is heard, forbidding any Jews from going up to the Temple Mount. From here a call is heard to stop this so that the blood of the People of Israel may stop being spilled," Yosef said.
Members of the Jewish Home party criticized Yosef for calling to Jews to stay away from the Temple Mount and disputed his assertion that it led to bloodshed.
Naftali Bennett, the party's leader and Israel's economy minister, wrote on Facebook: "Honorable Chief Rabbi, Jewish blood was spilled because Arabs murdered them."
Orit Struck, a lawmaker for the party, called the rabbi's remarks "unfortunate," The Jerusalem Post reported. "I protest the blaming of Jews for the incitement and murder committed by Arab terrorists," she said.



Chief rabbis David Lau and Yitzhak Yosef have signed a declaration reiterating the Chief Rabbinate's opposition to Jews visiting the Temple Mount. 12/2/2013 http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Chief-Rabbis-reimpose-ban-on-Jews-visiting-Temple-Mount-333741

Senior Haredi Sefardi Rabbi Approves Going Up to Temple Mount  By: Yori Yanover  March 9th, 2014 Rabbi Meir Mazuz (seen visiting a synagogue in Crown Heights, Brooklyn) declared in a public Internet psak that it is legal for a Jew to go up to temple Mount.

Rabbi Benny Lau Backs Jewish Prayer on Temple Mount

High-profile rabbi changes stance in light of recent developments; 'It can't be that Jews are humiliated to the lowest depths.'

Rabbi Lau - who is a cousin of the current Ashkenazic Chief Rabbi David Lau and a household name due to his weekly TV show and regularly media appearances - noted that the campaign for freedom of religion on the Mount could no longer be ignored, particularly since Muslim and Palestinian leaders were wielding the issue as part of their overall war against the Jewish state.

"The battle on the Temple Mount is no longer a battle of a few individuals," he continued. "It has already become a wider battle where both the Muslim leaders and the Palestinian leaders have set their eyes on the Temple Mount which is the focus of everything and impossible to put to the side for one moment."

He added that his decision had also been influenced by recent strongly-worded statements by hareidi rabbis against Jewish visits to the Temple Mount.

Among them, Rabbi David Yoseph - a prominent member of the Shas party's council of Torah sages and brother of Sephardic Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yoseph - went so far as to pen a letter to the prime minister, asking him to prevent Jews from ascending the Temple Mount.

Rabbi Yoseph even branded the silent prayers of those who did manage to visit the site as "abominations."

Dismissing the long list of prominent rabbis who support and encourage Temple Mount prayer, particularly (though not exclusively) from the religious-Zionist camp, Rabbi Yoseph urged Netanyahu "not to be fooled by an extreme and eccentric minority" who he claimed were "using Jewish law" to justify a "Messianic" agenda and advocating Jewish prayer rights on the Mount.

The Temple Mount: Are Jews Allowed To Enter?

By: Rabbi Shlomo M. Brody
Published: November 20th, 2014 

הגר"ד לאו ביקר את יהודה גליק והבהיר: נגד עלייה להר הבית
שעות לאחר שביקר את יהודה גליק, הבהיר הרב הראשי לישראל הגאון רבי דוד לאו כי הוא נגד עלייה להר הבית. העיתונאי בני רבינוביץ על הביקור: "זה צעד בלתי מובן Opposition to ascending Har Habayit.  Hours after visiting Yehuda Glick, the Chief Rabbi HaGaon Rabbi Dovid Lau stated that he is opposed ascending Har Habayit.  The journalist Benny Rabinovitz remarked "this  doesn't make sense"


Thursday, May 17, 2012
Asifa Moetzet Gedolei HaTorah at Marianbad 1937 - Horaas Shaah, Asifa Citi Field and Yom Yerushalyim - Vehaya Machanecha Kadosh..

Woodcliff Lake, NJ - Novominsker Rebbe Highlights Well Known Brooklyn Figure Mendel Weiss In Criticism On Bloggers

Internal Arab Debate

  Jordanian Preacher Proposes Place of Worship for Jews on the Temple Mount
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YaKSk7lwx0

Glick files police complaint against ‘al-Aqsa Mosque Preacher’"I say to the Jews clearly: It’s time to slaughter you," said Omar Abu Sara in Temple Mount sermon posted on YouTube last week
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Glick-files-police-complaint-against-al-Aqsa-Mosque-Preacher-384852

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Robin Ticker
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