אל המקום אשר...
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Please watch!
Jonathan Pollard and Hamas Hostage Deal.
https://youtu.be/10B6MfV5pP8?si=xXHf6utvEcdDuU7D
...When Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit was taken hostage in 2006, the government ended up trading more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners from its jails in exchange for his freedom in 2011. When the pale, reed-thin Shalit finally left Gaza after half a decade in captivity, one of the men let out of prison in the deal was Yahya Sinwar.
To recap:
Gilad Shalit free
vs:
Yahwar Sinhar free
(one of 1000)
Bitter Consequence Simchat Torah 2023:
- Over 1200 Israelis murdered,
- around 240 hostages
- over 4600 wounded this War
That's a very steep price!!!
What price will Israel pay for this current hostage deal not to mention from the other 999 release for Gilad Shalit?
Chananya,
Instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater and bashing Pollard thereby weakening our greatest friend and ally, wouldn't it be more productive to simply go through the points he makes that you like and endorse them. Then go through the points you don't like and explain why, and provide alternative suggestions. He is open to your ideas and my ideas. For example provide suggestions how to not allow family members of hostages to provide and actually dominate global PR with a very dangerous narrative as Israel has done subtly and overtly! Perhaps suggest that Israel must give strong PR and voice to family members of hostages who from the get go spoke vehemently against the hostage deal and have them control the narrative from Israeli perspective. In addition publicize the message From the River to the Sea is a Gift of G-d to the Nation of Israel Actually! (A poster I saw at the Washington Rally probably printed by a xtian group).
How about emphasizing a Winning End Goal:
- Resettling Gush Katif.
- Annex Judea and Samaria
- Jewish Sovereignty over Har HaBayit
- Only Jewish Autonomy no Palestinian State
- Non Jews are welcome if they accept Jewish Sovereignty and keep 7 Noahide Laws. This will end the Tyranny over Jews and Non Jews
The Hostage Deal, that releases terrorists, albeit women, is demoralizing to Israel's army and as Jonathan Pollard has stated in the past Purity of Arms Ethics of the IDF is very dangerous for the Chayalim!
Public Relations is a War weapon and we are allowing the other side to dominate be it the call for freeing hostages at any price, or the false narrative of Settlers Violence. He is right that this government's leaders are ill equipped to fight this war. To vow never to vote for NRP is taking it a step too far but criticizing individual MK's strongly for allowing the hostage deal to happen is definitely in order. He like you weakens us collectively by bashing our allies too strongly when they make serious mistakes. We need to somehow empower those who err, to do Teshuva, to make the right choices.
We are all human and Leader's heart and subsequent actions are in G-d's hands. Lev Melachim beYad Hashem. The people must be worthy. Often the leaders have no choice because the people were not worthy enough.
Getting the people worthy while leading is a sign of true leadership.
Pollard in my opinion is very much on target on the dangers of the hostage deal. His suggestions need to be fine tuned and clarified !
Pollard has an excuse for lashing out at the National Religious party. Let us try to see things from his perspective. He sees grave danger in "free the hostage" narrative vs "winning the war with Hamas" narrative. He is desperately sending out danger signals and warning.
Does Pollard really want the families of hostages put into prison and silenced? No! He just doesn't want the talking points of the GOI fighting the War to express a willingness to free terrorists and terrorist fans in exchange of hostages! There are families of hostages that have stated that unequivocally. But did the GOI choose them to be the spokesperson and message?
Does Pollard really want the families of hostages put into prison and silenced? No! He just doesn't want the talking points of the GOI fighting the War to express a willingness to free terrorists and terrorist fans in exchange of hostages! There are families of hostages that have stated that unequivocally. But did the GOI choose them to be the spokesperson and message?
Understand:
The orchestrator of this war was freed by Netanyahu.
The orchestrator of this war was freed by Netanyahu.
...When Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit was taken hostage in 2006, the government ended up trading more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners from its jails in exchange for his freedom in 2011. When the pale, reed-thin Shalit finally left Gaza after half a decade in captivity, one of the men let out of prison in the deal was Yahya Sinwar.
Sinwar is now the political head of Hamas in Gaza and believed to be the mastermind of the October 7 operation that killed about 1,200 people in Israel — more Jews than on any day since the Holocaust.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/opinions/israel-hamas-hostage-deal-ghitis/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/opinions/israel-hamas-hostage-deal-ghitis/index.html
To recap:
Gilad Shalit free
vs:
Yahwar Sinhar free
(one of 1000)
Bitter Consequence Simchat Torah 2023:
- Over 1200 Israelis murdered,
- around 240 hostages
- over 4600 wounded this War
That's a very steep price!!!
What price will Israel pay for this current hostage deal not to mention from the other 999 release for Gilad Shalit?
Chananya,
Instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater and bashing Pollard thereby weakening our greatest friend and ally, wouldn't it be more productive to simply go through the points he makes that you like and endorse them. Then go through the points you don't like and explain why, and provide alternative suggestions. He is open to your ideas and my ideas. For example provide suggestions how to not allow family members of hostages to provide and actually dominate global PR with a very dangerous narrative as Israel has done subtly and overtly! Perhaps suggest that Israel must give strong PR and voice to family members of hostages who from the get go spoke vehemently against the hostage deal and have them control the narrative from Israeli perspective. In addition publicize the message From the River to the Sea is a Gift of G-d to the Nation of Israel Actually! (A poster I saw at the Washington Rally probably printed by a xtian group).
How about emphasizing a Winning End Goal:
- Resettling Gush Katif.
- Annex Judea and Samaria
- Jewish Sovereignty over Har HaBayit
- Only Jewish Autonomy no Palestinian State
- Non Jews are welcome if they accept Jewish Sovereignty and keep 7 Noahide Laws. This will end the Tyranny over Jews and Non Jews
The Hostage Deal, that releases terrorists, albeit women, is demoralizing to Israel's army and as Jonathan Pollard has stated in the past Purity of Arms Ethics of the IDF is very dangerous for the Chayalim!
Public Relations is a War weapon and we are allowing the other side to dominate be it the call for freeing hostages at any price, or the false narrative of Settlers Violence. He is right that this government's leaders are ill equipped to fight this war. To vow never to vote for NRP is taking it a step too far but criticizing individual MK's strongly for allowing the hostage deal to happen is definitely in order. He like you weakens us collectively by bashing our allies too strongly when they make serious mistakes. We need to somehow empower those who err, to do Teshuva, to make the right choices.
We are all human and Leader's heart and subsequent actions are in G-d's hands. Lev Melachim beYad Hashem. The people must be worthy. Often the leaders have no choice because the people were not worthy enough.
Getting the people worthy while leading is a sign of true leadership.
Being perfect is not a necessary prerequisite of Leadership.
Being G-d fearing and human and willing to admit wrongdoing and mistakes with the intention to do better is a sign of true leadership and Kingship.
Being G-d fearing and human and willing to admit wrongdoing and mistakes with the intention to do better is a sign of true leadership and Kingship.
Hamas is winning a Psychological warfare against us...Chas VeSholom! May Hashem send Am Yisroel the right leaders to fight for Hashem and unite us.
Let us not allow Evil forces to divide us!
Sincerely,
Robin Ticker
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-------- Original Message --------
On Nov 24, 2023, 5:48 AM, Chananya Weissman < endthemadness@gmail.com> wrote:
There's a video of Jonathan Pollard going around that has a lot of people excited, because he is strongly critical of the government and talks tough against our external enemies. These days if you tell people some of what they want to hear, they will crown you the Messiah and whitewash whatever else you say and do, no matter how wrong and downright psychotic it might be.
It's no chiddush to be against the hostage surrender deal, so we need to set the bar a little higher than that. Pollard still believes in Otzma (whose leader pushed the poison shots and is currently pushing VERY draconian laws in the name of "security") and voting, as if the people who really run things would ever allow someone truly for the people to gain real power that way. The guy worked his whole life in intelligence. He should have more awareness than this about how things really work.
Pollard also endorsed locking up families of hostages who say things he doesn't like, in the name of "national security" in a time of war. Have we learned nothing?
Much of what he says is very disturbing. I can't jump aboard the hype bandwagon, and wouldn't want him to ever have power, like so people are pining for. Pollard is an excellent storyteller, but we don't need him for voting advice or a Torah perspective on how to deal with our enemies. I like a lot of what Pollard says, but he's not the Messiah or the next great Jewish leader. Be careful what you wish for and what you support.
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chananyaweissman.com/
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Related:
Settler Violence is a lie: Please Help! Dan Goldman is a Jewish anti Semitic Democrat Congressman
https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2023/11/in-response-to-please-help-dan-goldman.html
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-------- Original Message --------
On Nov 24, 2023, 5:48 AM, Chananya Weissman < endthemadness@gmail.com> wrote:
There's a video of Jonathan Pollard going around that has a lot of people excited, because he is strongly critical of the government and talks tough against our external enemies. These days if you tell people some of what they want to hear, they will crown you the Messiah and whitewash whatever else you say and do, no matter how wrong and downright psychotic it might be.
It's no chiddush to be against the hostage surrender deal, so we need to set the bar a little higher than that. Pollard still believes in Otzma (whose leader pushed the poison shots and is currently pushing VERY draconian laws in the name of "security") and voting, as if the people who really run things would ever allow someone truly for the people to gain real power that way. The guy worked his whole life in intelligence. He should have more awareness than this about how things really work.
Pollard also endorsed locking up families of hostages who say things he doesn't like, in the name of "national security" in a time of war. Have we learned nothing?
Much of what he says is very disturbing. I can't jump aboard the hype bandwagon, and wouldn't want him to ever have power, like so people are pining for. Pollard is an excellent storyteller, but we don't need him for voting advice or a Torah perspective on how to deal with our enemies. I like a lot of what Pollard says, but he's not the Messiah or the next great Jewish leader. Be careful what you wish for and what you support.
__________________________
chananyaweissman.com/
rumble.com/c/c-782463
Related:
Settler Violence is a lie: Please Help! Dan Goldman is a Jewish anti Semitic Democrat Congressman
https://shemittahrediscovered.blogspot.com/2023/11/in-response-to-please-help-dan-goldman.html