- there are just a few such Jewish Terrorists, "errant weeds" as they were referred to or
- it exists "more widespread among the religious community" ?
- "The Terror Within"
- (presented as fait accompli that it has been decided with no option to change, that the hilltop youth committed terror) Was there any conviction. How come I didn't hear about it?
- "Settler extremists"
- (In the context of this article, extremist has negative association. How are they extreme? What actions specifically renders them extreme?) One can be extremely passionate and extremely loving...Is that a bad thing? Here the connotation is that they have extreme tendencies toward violence and terror related activities)
- "hard-core ideologist"
- (this is a "nicer" descriptive term they use for these kids) Hard core has the connotation of unbending, rigid ideology. This description has negative associations especially within the context of this article. Why couldn't the author present some positive and just, true, good and peaceful elements in their ideology that is based on Torah. This viewpoint is not at all presented nor suggested as being even a remote possibility in this article. Quite the opposite. The ideology of the hilltop youth that was probably fabricated by the author who based it on Shabak reports, depicted as a violent and extreme group, was condemned cross the board by Jewish Religious Leaders.
- "Fringe Youth gone bad"
- ( How have they gone bad? Who has determined that they are fringe? Just because they are not in school setting? Why is shepherding, farming, or building and construction combined with prayer, learning Torah, interspersed with private times of introspection on a hilltop so bad? I think it's a beautiful lifestyle. Uncomplicated, close to nature, close to G-d.) The lifestyle may not be for everyone but what makes the school system a so much better lifestyle? Seems like kind of condescending attitude to alternative lifestyles with false conclusion that hilltop youth have extreme violent tendencies from which one needs to alienate.
- Title of article "The Dark Side of Ideology"
- Who are they to judge that this ideology is the Dark Side unless they know for a fact that this ideology encourages random uncalled violence, uncalled for property destruction against innocent people. As of yet there is no fair trial, only hearsay based on what the ISA and others say.
- "How Widespread is the Terrorist Fringe among Religious Youth"
- this is a loaded slanderous statement. It takes as a given that there is a Terrorist Fringe, and the only question is whether or not it is widespread. Jewish Terror coming from Religious Youth slanders the Religious community as well.
- Prominent picture of Meir Ettinger with disheveled Peyot (one side curled the other not,and seems to pictorially portray him of being a leader of this terrorist fringe group
From Shilo to Har Bracha to Jerusalem to Efrat to Orthodox Communities to Negev and even abroad, leaders of the religious Zionist world say the price tag/hilltop phenomenon is a rebellion against their theology and especially against the universalist thought of former Chief Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook
- Hele Manne, mother of 2 from Aish Kodesh "Attacks are committed by no more than a few dozen young people who have nothing to do with our communities" Does Hele have evidence of Attacks? If they have nothing to do with their communities, is she sure that indeed these allegations were committed. These are still allegations. It seems that she based this statement on hearsay rather than on fact. Who are the few dozen of young people that committed these attacks other than the ones rounded up by ISA and more often than not released due to no evidence on them. She sounds like a good ISA agent
- Aaron Katsoff - community spokesman "We don't know anything about the attacks", dismissed as a "prerecorded soundbite" not to be taken seriously.
- re: Amiram ben-Uliel tortured until he confessed while under Administrative detention with no charges nor trial: "Ben Uliel's extremism does not appear to have stemmed from his family or educational background. Acquaintances describe the family as "stable and functional"
- re: Meir Ettinger: "Security authorities believe Ettinger oversaw a Jewish terror group. His arrest was linked to the Duma Firebombing. Shin Bet officials have said Ettinger's movement was also responsible for the June arson attack at the historic Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fishes, and seeks to bring down the government and replace it with a Jewish theocracy". As far as I know, Meir Ettinger is no longer linked to the Duma arson nor the arson attack at the Church. His grandmother Libby Kahane, says he is under incarceration because they don't like his ideas. My guess is that he is under much scrutiny because he is Meir Kahane's grandson and they don't like his ideas.
There is no religious extremism in the religious Zionist Community....However, we certainly do have a phenomenon in our community of young people who have lost their way.... but the violence we have seen that has been attributed to the kids on the hilltops is not an expression of anything those young people have learned in our communities and Yeshivas. Very much to the contrary - the whole phenomenon is a part of a sharp rebellion against everything that religious Zionism stands for and represents. Don't make the mistake the Medina loves to make - you are talking about a few dozen kids who have become estranged from their parents. Their schools, their communities.It is outrageous and insulting to use violence of a few kids who have lost their way to smear an entire community". To support his point Kimche stressed that "virtually all segments of the religious Zionist world have strongly and consistently denounced price tag attacks including last summer's attacks in Duma and against the Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fishes at Tabgha". he adds "Vigilante violence ostensibly committed in the name of Judaism is a religious perversion and compares the phenomenon to other forms of teenage rebellion in the Orthodox community, particularly substance abuse and especially a decision to leave Orthodoxy."
"has called price tag attacks 'horrible, shocking, anti-Semitic and anti-morality'
The Rabbi of Har Bracha, considered one of the most extreme settlement in Judea and Samaria has denounced price tag activists as "Israel haters who 'appear to love Israel but in practice hate the Jews'"
Rabbi Hanan Schlesinger
There is a dark side of this ideology (Jerusalem Report/Jerusalem Post bothered this phrase for their Subtitle to describe the hilltop youth like Meir Ettinger)
Carmim Gillon:"Former Head of the ISA who founded the Intelligence Body's Jewish Division to deal with threat posed by the Jewish Underground, a group of religious Zionist Israeli who planned to blow up the Dome of the Rock"
Not just a Youth at Risk Phenomenan - they work of a few dozen disturbed anarchists but rather a breeding ground for extremism" since he started monitoring the community since 1984 - He claims the moderate voice is irrlevant in religious Zionism (in other words he faults the entire community of radical extremism)Yuval Diskin Another ex-Shin Bet head between 2005-2011
There are many hundreds of youths supporting Messianic and/or anarchistic anti -State ideologies [including dozens who daily adopt different levels of vioence or terrorism against Palestinian lives and property"The article concludes with how Rabbi Kimchi tells his students to address the reality of Arab Terror. They should channel these negative emotions until the proper time. When is the proper time?
When they are on patrol in the middle of the night without a shower for 3 days, that is when they funnel their feelings in an appropriate healthier and legal ways"I beg to differ with Rabbi Kimchi. This is what I would have suggested that the most appropriate time is when they are confronting a terrorist in the act of committing terror they should act to neutralize him. IMHO neutralizing a terrorist before they have the opportunity to commit an act of terror is the proper time to funnel their negative emotions.
Perhaps that situation is not even suggested by Rabbi Kimchi because one might accuse Rabbi Kimche of being one of those "violent" Settlers.
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